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I like the SSJ4 transformation
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Grildon Tundy
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What is this? Why is this a thread? Where am I?
Mondai
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It’s just my opinion mannn
chromhound
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SSJ4 was the best transformation
Punished Miku
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Yep, it's good. GT was always good.
Northeastmonk
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I was told as a teen that it wasn’t technically called SSJ4, but a Surpressed Oozaru. This was back when GT was only in Japan. I agree. It was a new look, great powers, and fun to watch.
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Goku used his grandpa’s balls as a pillow and was surprised when Bulma didn’t have balls to use as a pillow.
Doom85
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The only semi-good arc in GT was the Baby arc. The first arc is the worse non-filler story to ever appear in the Dragonball franchise outside of Evolution, Super 17 arc was insanely rushed and wasted tons of potential, and the Omega Shenron arc was more wasted potential and also the worst power scaling ever (SSJ4 Goku is around Omega Shenron’s level, and then later base form kid Goku holds off a blast from Omega Shenron? WHAT?!!!), and an out of nowhere mindfuck ending that also tries to cash in on emotions involving characters (Piccolo and Krillin) who were barely present in GT so it feels forced as hell. Also it was revealed later that the writers were forced to make it so Goku always saved the day so Trunks and Pan were also wasted potential.
Also contains a scene where a deer starts sucking Pan’s breasts…who is 10.
I think even most hentai writers would WTF at seeing that.
Super has problems, but at least they have Goku AND Vegeta constantly contribute to victory, and even the supporting cast get more love than the nothing that GT gave them. And the new characters, BY GOD, they are far, far, FAR better than GT’s new characters who are….pretty much all villains who are forgettable (except for Baby) and Pan who is wasted potential. Plus Toriyama actually had some story involvement with Super, whereas with GT he threw some character designs at them and walked away.
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Saber
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Nah.
Super has a better concept than GT bullcrap. They are forgetting about transformation stages and going for more different forms rather than pure "above level". God forms are also less about muscular and size.
Also, both Goku and Vegeta now have different branch of states. Goku using an angel state and Vegeta learning the power of destruction, creating his own form.
Super has a better concept than GT bullcrap. They are forgetting about transformation stages and going for more different forms rather than pure "above level". God forms are also less about muscular and size.
Also, both Goku and Vegeta now have different branch of states. Goku using an angel state and Vegeta learning the power of destruction, creating his own form.
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Daneel Elijah
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SSJ4 is nice and feel like a possible "final form" and is great visually. The fact that Goku and Vegeta have clear differences is amazing.
DBGT opening is amazing
I honestly did not see a lot of GT. But just the OP is worth all the bullshit that was in it.The only semi-good arc in GT was the Baby arc. The first arc is the worse non-filler story to ever appear in the Dragonball franchise outside of Evolution, Super 17 arc was insanely rushed and wasted tons of potential, and the Omega Shenron arc was more wasted potential and also the worst power scaling ever (SSJ4 Goku is around Omega Shenron’s level, and then later base form kid Goku holds off a blast from Omega Shenron? WHAT?!!!), and an out of nowhere mindfuck ending that also tries to cash in on emotions involving characters (Piccolo and Krillin) who were barely present in GT so it feels forced as hell. Also it was revealed later that the writers were forced to make it so Goku always saved the day so Trunks and Pan were also wasted potential.
Also contains a scene where a deer starts sucking Pan’s breasts…who is 10.
I think even most hentai writers would WTF at seeing that.
Super has problems, but at least they have Goku AND Vegeta constantly contribute to victory, and even the supporting cast get more love than the nothing that GT gave them. And the new characters, BY GOD, they are far, far, FAR better than GT’s new characters who are….pretty much all villains who are forgettable (except for Baby) and Pan who is wasted potential. Plus Toriyama actually had some story involvement with Super, whereas with GT he threw some character designs at them and walked away.
DBGT opening is amazing
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NightmareFarm
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SSJ4 was the peak of DBZ transformations. All went downhill with SSJG onwards with the copy paste colour swap popsicle flavor forms.
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kunonabi
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They're just different flavors of awful. Super has better comedic writing and the new characters are mostly good additions. The problem is toriyama is completely over trying to write anything dramatic or true to the characters so when things need to get serious it never works and nobody really gets built up or makes meaningful progression since he's having too much fun undercutting everyone and everything in service of a joke.
GT had some good ideas, more classic dragonball adventure, Baby, overuse of the dragonballs having major repercussions , but they almost all go wrong for one reason or another. The big exception is Super Android 17 which might be the worst DBZ storyline ever. The Goku worship is also worse than super, although Super is still freaking awful about it, which results in no new good characters or meaningful screen time for the existing ones.
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Why do people hate super btw? The power creep was stupid but was fun to watch and was quite funny in parts.The only semi-good arc in GT was the Baby arc. The first arc is the worse non-filler story to ever appear in the Dragonball franchise outside of Evolution, Super 17 arc was insanely rushed and wasted tons of potential, and the Omega Shenron arc was more wasted potential and also the worst power scaling ever (SSJ4 Goku is around Omega Shenron’s level, and then later base form kid Goku holds off a blast from Omega Shenron? WHAT?!!!), and an out of nowhere mindfuck ending that also tries to cash in on emotions involving characters (Piccolo and Krillin) who were barely present in GT so it feels forced as hell. Also it was revealed later that the writers were forced to make it so Goku always saved the day so Trunks and Pan were also wasted potential.
Also contains a scene where a deer starts sucking Pan’s breasts…who is 10.
I think even most hentai writers would WTF at seeing that.
Super has problems, but at least they have Goku AND Vegeta constantly contribute to victory, and even the supporting cast get more love than the nothing that GT gave them. And the new characters, BY GOD, they are far, far, FAR better than GT’s new characters who are….pretty much all villains who are forgettable (except for Baby) and Pan who is wasted potential. Plus Toriyama actually had some story involvement with Super, whereas with GT he threw some character designs at them and walked away.
Saber
Member
Because it condractics and invalidates GT. A god form is above anything GT could offer. GT can only provide SS4 and a fusion for it.
Super has a lot of downsides, but its way above GT in terms of absolute everything. It has the biggest side characters participation(almost everyone participates in a way and fighting. Number 17 is also there, reformed and with a family), it also for the first time displayed a time where both Goku and Vegeta couldn't beat a main villain. It brough back a forgotten move Mafuba(though it didn't work well as intended for a stupid reason) and for the first time Goku was beaten by an enemy who isn't about power level, its simply a time moving opponent which almost impossible to beat. Etc.
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Richard Packer
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The tail needs to be on the otherside for true perfection.
