threelights
Member
But you talk about the equally bad (if not worse) PE2? =P
Anyway, I wouldn't really put a lot of trust into a new game being in development because of Verendus...
Not that I wouldn't want one though =X
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I miss Parasite Eve
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But you talk about the equally bad (if not worse) PE2? =P
Anyway, I wouldn't really put a lot of trust into a new game being in development because of Verendus...
Not that I wouldn't want one though =X
LookAtMeGo
Member
Parasite Eve and Fear Effect were 2 of my favorite games back in the day.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I think, to this day, no video game sequel has ever disappointed me as much as Parasite Eve 2.
The first game is so fucking good though. While I'm sure we'll never see another, I'd like to see a modern game in a similar vein with the contemporary setting and all the body horror/science fiction stuff.
The first game is so fucking good though. While I'm sure we'll never see another, I'd like to see a modern game in a similar vein with the contemporary setting and all the body horror/science fiction stuff.
Oh really?I didn't know she made original tracks for that game too.
Dream_Journey
Member
Me too... But there is a hope.
Motomu Toriyama secret project:
(or not?..)
Motomu Toriyama secret project:
Parasite Eve was so damn fun, I loved it and the CGI at that time was mind blowing. Battling on a coach with horses on fire? Fun times! So disappointed in how the whole thing went over time, II was nothing more than a RE clone that jettisoned a lot of what made PE so fun and Third Birthday....reading up on that I can't even begin to understand what they were thinking with that.
The music for PE1 is stellar. Would play that first and if you enjoy it, then give PE2 a shot. I don't remember the games being all that spectacular aside from the music though. They are VERY different in how they play from any other game I've played outside of... maybe Vagrant Story? Actually, they kind of feel like turn-based Resident Evil, now that I think about it.
Thanks, Cyrano!
That reminds me, I should get to play Vagrant Story as well at some point
Yep. Hope the recommendation is helpful! Play Valkyrie Profile 1 at some point too if you get a chance! Has a similarly amazing soundtrack.
Legend of Mana was also composed by Shimomura and is a fun, short, lovable videogame that is among my favorites and would also recommend.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I really liked Parasite Eve 2 (Resident Evil: The RPG). Slowly playing through the first game on my Vita off and on and it's okay (almost done with the first playthrough). Combat's not all that interesting (dodge, shoot, heal, repeat) and though the equipment tinkering system is interesting, so far, there have rarely been any interesting traits to transfer over. Story and setting is cool, but it's plagued by an early "functional but stilted" Squaresoft translation.
Third Birthday was somewhat interesting as an attempt to do a blockbuster third-person shooter on a portable system but otherwise is a hot mess.
Other games worth checking out in the horror/RPG sub-genre would be Vagrant Story, Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, Shadow Hearts (the first one, the sequels got less and less horror-ey), and the Shin Megami Tensei series in general. Transistor is also worth checking out as it has a combat system that seems inspired by Parasite Eve & Vagrant Story.
Third Birthday was somewhat interesting as an attempt to do a blockbuster third-person shooter on a portable system but otherwise is a hot mess.
Other games worth checking out in the horror/RPG sub-genre would be Vagrant Story, Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, Shadow Hearts (the first one, the sequels got less and less horror-ey), and the Shin Megami Tensei series in general. Transistor is also worth checking out as it has a combat system that seems inspired by Parasite Eve & Vagrant Story.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Source?
Parasite Eve 1 and 2 were re-released on PSN in 2011, around the very same time as The 3rd Birthday was released.
PE2 is at worst a poor man's Resident Evil. 3rd birthday has a few interesting gameplay ideas but utterly destroys the series with its story, and has the gross undress Aya mechanic.
For people saying they were disappointed with PE2, how did the sequel disappoint?
I'm a huge VP fan already - possibly my favorite JRPG and a major reason why I was super interested in Indivisible, so no need there.
Legend of Mana isn't available in EU PSN though, but I'll see if I can track down a copy or just use a US PSN account.
I'm a huge VP fan already - possibly my favorite JRPG and a major reason why I was super interested in Indivisible, so no need there.
Legend of Mana isn't available in EU PSN though, but I'll see if I can track down a copy or just use a US PSN account.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Yeah... I think I put Parasite Eve right up there with ActRaiser as far as 'series that could have had long legs but sadly didn't'.
Parasite Eve 1 was awesome. It felt like an event.
Parasite Eve 2 tried a bit harder to ape Resident Evil, but was still a pretty damn competent sequel that had some insane creature designs.
Then absolutely nothing in the PS2 era, which is mind-boggling to me.
Then nothing in the PS3 era.
^At the same time a piss-poor mobile phone project that was wisely converted to a PSP project, but still turned out to be a disappointing mess.
I hope we get (at the very least) a fun mid-tier developed PE for PS4 in the coming years. Aya deserves better than the fucking 3rd Birthday, especially since they were able to snag Yvonne Strahovski for the role.
Just gonna go ahead and boo you loudly on that. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Parasite Eve 1 was awesome. It felt like an event.
Parasite Eve 2 tried a bit harder to ape Resident Evil, but was still a pretty damn competent sequel that had some insane creature designs.
Then absolutely nothing in the PS2 era, which is mind-boggling to me.
Then nothing in the PS3 era.
^At the same time a piss-poor mobile phone project that was wisely converted to a PSP project, but still turned out to be a disappointing mess.
I hope we get (at the very least) a fun mid-tier developed PE for PS4 in the coming years. Aya deserves better than the fucking 3rd Birthday, especially since they were able to snag Yvonne Strahovski for the role.
Just gonna go ahead and boo you loudly on that. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
mikefrails
Banned
How much of the disdain for 3rd Birthday is due to it being different than the previous two? As someone who never played the originals I thought it was solid.
PE2 is pretty different from 1 so just being different isn't enough to justify the burning hatred PE fans have for 3rd birthday. To be clear the gameplay is fine and not the problem. The problem is that when the story isn't being a nonsensical mess, it's character assassinating previous PE characters. And when it isn't doing that, it's literally assassinating them. The only way we could possibly have another PE game is either a complete reboot or something that totally ignores 3rd Birthday.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Maybe as far as gunplay goes. The RPG aspects of 3rd Birthday are really bad.
Splatterpunk
Member
Pretty much right off the bat, PE2 sets itself apart from its predecessor; it has different combat/gameplay, mechanics, setting, and the presentation. Like others have said, it took alot of influence from Resident Evil. I remember when it came out I didn't really like it because it felt too much like RE - not that I didn't like RE, but I wanted to play a Parasite Eve game, not an RE with some RPG elements. Though I didn't get very far into it honestly.
I do want to return to it one of these days and give it a fair shake though, try and take it as it is instead of what I wanted it to be. Especially considering the state of the series now.
BuckRobotron
Member
Parasite Eve 2 is actually one of my favorite games. RE-like but with an especially entertaining battle system, high production value lunacy, and very replayable with rankings and rewards like bonus weapons. I also enjoyed Parasite Eve before it, but the second one is like the usual RE more quickly replayable.
threelights
Member
PE2 is at worst a poor man's Resident Evil. 3rd birthday has a few interesting gameplay ideas but utterly destroys the series with its story, and has the gross undress Aya mechanic.
PE2 is also mediocre in every aspect, where 3rd Birthday will at least have fun gameplay.
And the story in PE2 is certainly not something to pro up over 3rd Birthday.
At the end they're both terrible sequels (and games) after PE1.
Ohhhh yes it is. PE2's story is forgettable, which is leagues better than actually destroying an entire series.
And Parasite Eve 1 didn't have fabulous gameplay, either, so I'm not entirely sad that 2 switched to Resident Evil gameplay with some added mitochondrial twists.
Woody Invincible
Banned
Parasite Eve at release was pretty amazing, but I hated not knowing when I should use the tools, and would end up having a stockpile of them. I remember really enjoying PE2, as well.
threelights
Member
Really? You think PE2 does no damage whatsoever and they can just run it all back? And they can't with 3rd Birthday? I'm not even sure what reasoning dictates that...
And I don't even know what to say to that second paragraph, but hey, if being an RE clone is all it takes for it to be "good" (even as a mediocre clone), then have fun, I can see why you prefer PE2...
I'd say this is the general issue most have with PE2. The gameplay is definitely better than PE1 (at the very least, less obtuse), but the story isn't nearly as interesting as the first and the first has an interesting and unusual setting/story/characters that change quite a lot throughout. PE2 loses a lot of what I guess you could call "weirdness", more typical of older jRPGs.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Parasite Eve was an incredible game, dripping with atmosphere and at the time very high production values. That carriage scene...
And then I played the second one and I had no idea that I could feel such disappointment.
And then I played the third birthday and hope they never touch the series again.
And then I played the second one and I had no idea that I could feel such disappointment.
And then I played the third birthday and hope they never touch the series again.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Gameplay better in 2? I guess if you prefer Resident Evil clones over something unique, which would go on to evolve into Vagrant Story's awesome system.
Depends whether the unique system is any good.
Just epsxe with the Natural shader (I think that's the one)
glaringradio
Member
What am I reading...
DangerMouse
Member
Absolutely loved the first Parasite Eve.
Here's hoping! Would love to see the series return (without Toriyama ofcourse).
Given the S-E turnaround and them slipping that easter egg into that trailer I think it might be possible and that they are atleast thinking about it.
Me too... But there is a hope.(or not?..)
Motomu Toriyama secret project:
Here's hoping! Would love to see the series return (without Toriyama ofcourse).
Given the S-E turnaround and them slipping that easter egg into that trailer I think it might be possible and that they are atleast thinking about it.
GoldandBlue
Member
Me too... But there is a hope.(or not?..)
Motomu Toriyama secret project:
I'd rather not see him ever touch the series again.
yeah, pe2 has tons of great flavor text that did a lot to flesh out aya's personality. i also never once felt that the story did anything to cheapen or degrade anything that happened in the first game. i'm actually kind of curious what specific aspects about the story people take issue with and believe irreparably damaged the narrative.
seeing the game being compared to dmc2 is pretty irritating, though. i never gave it a fair shake when it came out, but i finally got around to finishing it (twice!) last year and definitely had a good time. Fun powers, interesting customization options, and probably the best prerendered backgrounds of the era only eventually surpassed by the biohazard remake.
I wouldn't say it damaged the series in that regard, but I do think PE2 missed a lot of what made the first game stand out, in terms of narrative and atmosphere. I have no problem with sequels which try to do something different to the originals, (PE1 itself was vastly different from the novel) but PE2's invocation of stock-standard bioweapons, government conspiracies and secret agents felt like a poor substitute for the first game's unknowable alien antagonist and well-characterised, relatively naturalistic urban space. It became another story about covert research facilities and human experiments gone wrong, as opposed to the almost supernatural angle of Eve awakening within humanity.
I played Parasite Eve a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it. The movie, while very different is pretty ok too, I thought. Was playing Parasite Eve 2 but was not enjoying it like 1 for whatever reason, maybe I'll get back to it someday.
I've probably lost my save by now since ps1 don't get backed up to the cloud on the vita
Death Metalist
Member
biglittleps
Member
This is one of my all time top games and really enjoyed this game in PS1. Hope to see a reboot or sequel for this someday.
SchrodingerC
Member
At this point it's best to leave the series alone, unless a competent reboot can be made.
A reboot that manages to expand on what made the first game great, and remove the stank left behind by 3rd Birthday would be appreciated.
A reboot that manages to expand on what made the first game great, and remove the stank left behind by 3rd Birthday would be appreciated.
Novum_Veritas
Member
I'm glad I'm not the only one disliking PE 2 and 3rd Birthday.
PE 1 will always be my favorite. One of the reasons I read the novel and watched the movie.
PE 1 will always be my favorite. One of the reasons I read the novel and watched the movie.
DrunkShogun
Member
Honestly think aya was one of the strongest female characters square enix made and they just ruined her. Ah well, at least parasite eve 1 can never be ruined for me.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
The original Parasite Eve is a great game. I loved the whole atmosphere and setting of the game, and Aya Brea was an interesting protagonist. Great music, fun combat.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Me too... But there is a hope.(or not?..)
Motomu Toriyama secret project:
I've always preferred Nomura's original 90's anime-inspired design for Parasite Eve than the new, CGI Serah/Lightning looking design for Third Birthday.
Compared to...
Novum_Veritas
Member
I've always preferred Nomura's original 90's anime-inspired design for Parasite Eve than the new, CGI Serah/Lightning looking design for Third Birthday.
Compared to...
PE 1 Aya Brea was a bad ass anyway, really liked how she was portrayed in the game, also one of the games were the protag was a women.