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I miss Steve Jobs

I generally miss creative people in charge at big companies.

And yeah, I know Steve wasn't very creative himself but he was quite a nutter in this regard and didn't just chase the $$$.
 

Skyr

Member
I wonder what devices apple would have come up with by now with him sailing the ship.

They are barely innovating these days but instead just refining stuff.

Diamonds are made under pressure.
 

LordOfChaos

Member
I do wonder what things would look like if he was still around.

As a stockholder, Tim Apple killed it, but the flip side of that is also as a consumer, they're increasingly nickle and dimming, maximizing profits and milking old production lines. I'm excited to see ARM macs, but they did stagnate for a long while there, and Jobs was more into computers I think than Tim is, not sure that would have happened.

He was also a balancing force to Ive, with the whole 5 years to get rid of Butterfly keyboards that were prone to jamming, the ultimate form over function.
 

mcz117chief

Member
I miss his ingenuity and vision. Since he left us Apple has been stuck in a rut (profitable one for sure) with nothing interesting being released.
 
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I'm not sure what else there is to invent in terms of personal computing devices. At the moment, we have all the knowledge in the world in our palm. You can talk to your phone or type in it and find out basically anything you need to know for the most part in seconds.

The only path left is continuing to shrink the distance between the user, and access to that knowledge. So the next step would be wearable computing, like Smart Watches or Smart Glasses. You could maybe have jackets with some kind of computing built in, or a wallet.

Next step after wearables is implanted computing. Why carry the phone, when it can be built into your ears and eyes? At some point it will interface directly with your brain and you can think about what you want your google search to be and find it that way. Maybe cybernetic enhancements and prosthetics would be next.

There's not much else to do. This has been known for decades. Holograms? VR? AR? I can't think of anything else.
 

nbcjr

Member
I'm not sure what else there is to invent in terms of personal computing devices. At the moment, we have all the knowledge in the world in our palm. You can talk to your phone or type in it and find out basically anything you need to know for the most part in seconds.

The only path left is continuing to shrink the distance between the user, and access to that knowledge. So the next step would be wearable computing, like Smart Watches or Smart Glasses. You could maybe have jackets with some kind of computing built in, or a wallet.

Next step after wearables is implanted computing. Why carry the phone, when it can be built into your ears and eyes? At some point it will interface directly with your brain and you can think about what you want your google search to be and find it that way. Maybe cybernetic enhancements and prosthetics would be next.

There's not much else to do. This has been known for decades. Holograms? VR? AR? I can't think of anything else.
Most people in the 80s also think that there was nothing Else to invent.
 

mcz117chief

Member
Most people in the 80s also think that there was nothing Else to invent.
Exactly. Steve Jobs totally moved the idea forward by a huge amount. Before the iPhone it was all about trying to stuff a keyboard on a phone or have those big ass communicator phones.
 

luffie

Member
I'm not sure what else there is to invent in terms of personal computing devices. At the moment, we have all the knowledge in the world in our palm. You can talk to your phone or type in it and find out basically anything you need to know for the most part in seconds.

The only path left is continuing to shrink the distance between the user, and access to that knowledge. So the next step would be wearable computing, like Smart Watches or Smart Glasses. You could maybe have jackets with some kind of computing built in, or a wallet.

Next step after wearables is implanted computing. Why carry the phone, when it can be built into your ears and eyes? At some point it will interface directly with your brain and you can think about what you want your google search to be and find it that way. Maybe cybernetic enhancements and prosthetics would be next.

There's not much else to do. This has been known for decades. Holograms? VR? AR? I can't think of anything else.
This is what the average people always think, until the next steve jobs come along.
Like him or hate him, he innovated the entire mobile industry, making ipads even when most people think there is no market for that.
Tim Apple has brought nothing new except a $100 each desktop wheel and a 999 stand.
 
This is what the average people always think, until the next steve jobs come along.
Like him or hate him, he innovated the entire mobile industry, making ipads even when most people think there is no market for that.
Tim Apple has brought nothing new except a $100 each desktop wheel and a 999 stand.
I'm pretty sure Apple employs lots of smart people. I guess we'll see if any of them come up with stuff, or maybe I have a point.
 

TaySan

Banned
I miss Ipod Nanos.

Did he have an involvement with that? If yes, then i miss him. I certainly don't miss what Apple is nowadays. Greedy corporation.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I don't miss him. Never cared for or owned a single Apple product.
Yeah, but it's disingenious to think that without him many other brands would even care to improve shit, if not for Jobs. He definitely had place in this landscape. Something which Cook sorely lacks and since now even that slow talking designer is out, they just going to milk shit. Not the mention how much patents Jobs created.

One thing I have experience with is MacBook Air 2013 and MacBook Pro 2019 and those two machines is light nd day. Not in the new iteration favor. Noisy, hot, shitty keyboard, buggy system with 3 hours on battery...
 

Siri

Banned
Not as much as Apple does - the iPod, the iPad, the iPhone, the iMac, the iBook all happened because of Jobs.... what has Apple done since then... oh, they developed a silly looking watch that doesn’t even function without a phone.
 

nush

Gold Member
I don't miss him. Never cared for or owned a single Apple product.

You should try one, take a shot on a used old Apple product. Apple fanboys are obnoxious, but there's some good stuff going on in the Apple world. Years ago I just borrowed and old iPod Touch for a long haul international flight. It was some good shit, I never gave it back.
 
He was a guy with vision and determination. He was also an asshole. But there just are not a ton of people with that kind of vision and drive. Elon Musk is another one. I’m sure there are more. But those kinds of people are rare and should be admired, even if they have some character deficits.
 

lock2k

Banned
I was never an Apple guy, always preferred pcs (I still really enjoy my ipod classic though).

Even if I didn't care much about them, Steve was a true innovator and Apple has become a template company without them just rehashing the same shit over and over and launching stupid products like the Apple Watch (the douchiest most useless pos device to ever grace earth).
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
I have to admit, it would have been fun seeing what brand new products Jobs would have inspired his people to make, ten years after the iPad, and twelve (+?) after the iPhone.

In regards to the iPad especially, remember all the people and experts telling you that nobody was going to want a much larger iPhone? Even I had initial doubts. Then look at the success it achieved.

That kind of creative spark is something I think modern Apple doesn't have; that ability to birth something revolutionary, and the confidence and drive to see it to release.

Modern Apple can make a killer product though, and really refine what's already there. It shouldn't be underestimated how good they are at that. I just hope Cook is hiring and bringing up talent that can, while you can never recreate a genius, bring some of that spark back.
 

belmarduk

Member
Honestly Apple has gone way downhill since Tim Cook took over. Hopefully the new Macs with the ARM chips will be a great improvement.
 
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Foamy

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Guy was a slave driving narcissistic cock-mitt.
And if him being gone is detrimental to Apple, so much the better.
 

Blond

Banned
Slaves with Apple stock options.

I'm getting really tired of hearing people compare themselves to "slaves" for god forbid working 50 hours a week and making six figures. When I was working 60 hours a week working in Telecom I didn't get shit for it. Hell, If I worked 50-60 hours a week in the gaming industry or at Apple at-least I'd be happy knowing millions of people are enjoying the fruits of our collective labor.
 
Apple stopped innovating once he was gone, there's not been anything like the quantum leaps of the iphone and ipad ever since.

I think what's frustrating is the guy probably died thinking the year 2020 would be some techno utopia he helped to build, instead of being able to see the actual ramifications things like his products have caused, that's not only not really fair, it'd be interesting to see what his input on the modern world would be, would Jobs have been a guy willing to speak out and criticize stuff like cancel culture?

Any intelligent person who is no longer with us is sorely needed in the present day, when idiocy is running rampant.
 

Compsiox

Banned
Apple stopped innovating once he was gone, there's not been anything like the quantum leaps of the iphone and ipad ever since.

I think what's frustrating is the guy probably died thinking the year 2020 would be some techno utopia he helped to build, instead of being able to see the actual ramifications things like his products have caused, that's not only not really fair, it'd be interesting to see what his input on the modern world would be, would Jobs have been a guy willing to speak out and criticize stuff like cancel culture?

Any intelligent person who is no longer with us is sorely needed in the present day, when idiocy is running rampant.
What stinks is he didn't need to die. He thought he could cure cancer naturally. Real shame.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, but it's disingenious to think that without him many other brands would even care to improve shit, if not for Jobs. He definitely had place in this landscape. Something which Cook sorely lacks and since now even that slow talking designer is out, they just going to milk shit. Not the mention how much patents Jobs created.

One thing I have experience with is MacBook Air 2013 and MacBook Pro 2019 and those two machines is light nd day. Not in the new iteration favor. Noisy, hot, shitty keyboard, buggy system with 3 hours on battery...

That’ll be because Intel have frankly shat the bed with laptop cpus - they just can’t make a laptop cpu with grunt that doesn’t run hot (which means needing a lot of fan and thus a lot of noise). The move to ARM should see improvement there.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Apple stopped innovating once he was gone, there's not been anything like the quantum leaps of the iphone and ipad ever since.

And even when they weren't strictly innovating, Jobs knew how to drive his engineering and design teams to take the ideas and technologies competitors were using and improve upon them - make them intuitive to the average non-techie user.

I still prefer the iPhone, definitely the iPad, and Macbook instead of a random Windows laptop. But I'd be lying if I said I thought Apple truly innovated anything worth discussing in the past five or six years.
 
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