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I need a new laptop! Would appreciate tips from the brains trust.

Tschumi

Member
Just to end my contribution on this thread.
I am posting this because finding gaming benchmark on optimized settings is hard. You don't have to play on ultra. Just one or two ultra settings in PC can be crazy taxing. They are there for preservation. You may have had pc before but the difference between high and ultra is getting more negligible now a days than ever. It's always small things like RT shadows, soft shadow that just tank the framerate. You can do 4K60 on 98 percent of title out there.


I hear you. Yeah, i lived through the times when being very cautious with turning up graphics so i always just raise it until I'm happy lol.. great video
 

GHG

Gold Member
Thank you much appreciated.

Do you use the Omen gaming app thing to go to performance mode or do you use the settings in Windows I think it’s in settings > graphics > apps?

Or Nvidia Control Panel even?

Omen app and set it to performance mode in conjunction with this for the CPU to keep the noise/heat down without losing out on any performance:

 
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StreetsofBeige

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I cant offer any good tips. and I dont know how standard this feature is, but all I know is backlit keyboard (with the option to never have it off) is an awesome feature.
 
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Tschumi

Member
I cant offer any good tips. and I dont know how standard this feature is, but all I know is backlit keyboard (with the option to never have it off) is an awesome feature.
Hmmm.

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MikeM

Member
So you're saying, like, i should be looking for something with 11th or 12th gen cpu? More than 3070/80?
No. The TDP is the power usage of the GPU.
I.e. a 3080 with a tdp of 80w will only draw max 80w.
A 3070 with a tdp of 130w will draw a max 130w.
Basically, a underpowered 3080 won’t perform as well as an overpowered 3070. This is why tdp matters in combo with the GPU type.
 

TrueLegend

Member
I really want a razer blade 14, it's just too fucking expensive fml

Get 760 storm gray. It has 1600p WXQGAscreen and HDR. And 3080. And it is stock. Same price as scar. It is an option. If you don't plan to play on external monitor get this. I will go for this because of HDR.
 
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Tschumi

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Get 760 storm gray. It has 1600p WXQGAscreen and HDR. And 3080. And it is stock. Same price as scar. It is an option. If you don't plan to play on external monitor get this. I will go for this because of HDR.
It's gorgeous, but it's probably outside my means by about 3万 :/
 

TrueLegend

Member
It's gorgeous, but it's probably outside my means by about 3万 :/
It is same price as scar in Amazon Y 280, 000 unless I am seeing different price of scar compared to you

I am talking about 82N6008XJP
I see it at ¥ 280,918 That ¥ 918 more than what price I saw for scar at Amazon.jp
 
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Windle Poons

Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Omen app and set it to performance mode in conjunction with this for the CPU to keep the noise/heat down without losing out on any performance:


Sorry one last question how and where do you do that to CPU please? Is it in that video? 😂

Edit: I’ll watch video properly thanks.
 
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Tschumi

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It is same price as scar in Amazon Y 280, 000 unless I am seeing different price of scar compared to you
Ahh, maybe my link wasn't to a specific product, the one i was looking at was ¥239,800.. as i understand it it's the 3rd teir 3080 one, it's reduced by 60万 tho
 
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GHG

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Sorry one last question how and where do you do that to CPU please? Is it in that video? 😂

Edit: I’ll watch video properly thanks.

Yeh the video explains everything. It's basically just unlocking a Windows power setting that allows you to control whether or not the CPU enables "turbo" mode or not. It has little to no benefit for games (especially as you crank up the resolution) so it's better to just disable it when gaming so that you can have cooler temperatures and much less fan noise.
 

RaySoft

Member
I'd recommend the new Asus Zephyrus G15 2022 edition. I have the 2021 version and it's a great laptop. It's a wolf in sheeps clothing, since it sheds all the "bling" that usual gaming laptop has with chirstmas tree lights etc.
But don't be fooled, the hardware is top notch for gaming as well as productivity/creative jobs.

It has a dedicated nVidia RTX 30x0 GPU and a Ryzen 9 CPU (with embedded Radeon for win tasks) My version uses the rather iffy Optimus to activate the descrete GPU at heavier loads, but that is not the optimal solution:-/ The 2022 version though, includes a MUX switcher of the GPU's so you have the whole bandwith of the descrete GPU at hand when you want. The MUX was the only thing I'm missing with this laptop, so you can't go wrong going for the 2022 version if you have the money.

If you do, go for the RTX3070 and not the '80 variant since in a laptop you really can't feed the GPU the required wattage to shine, so the '70 is the sweetspot.

Edit: Replaceable GPU's isn't really something to go for.. It just makes the laptop much more expensive and by the time you'd want to upgrade the GPU (2-3 y after purchase), it isn't worth it anymore. Probably better to just buy a new laptop at that point, since all the other hardware parts has evolved considerably since you bought it, it's not worth the askin price for just the GPU. (remember that the bus you connect it to don't change on your PC and will stay the same, probably further limiting the new GPU replacement.)
 
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Windle Poons

Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Yeh the video explains everything. It's basically just unlocking a Windows power setting that allows you to control whether or not the CPU enables "turbo" mode or not. It has little to no benefit for games (especially as you crank up the resolution) so it's better to just disable it when gaming so that you can have cooler temperatures and much less fan noise.

I can't even tell if its using the 3070 or not!!

I have a game called Stellaris installed but it doesn't indicate what graphics chip is being used, for all I know its probably the built in AMD one. So confused.
 
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Neo_GAF

Banned
buy a macbook pro 14inch.

for the rest, get a shadowpc to play your games. you dont need it everyday so you can use it when you need it otherwise i would not give a damn about it.
 

Gone

Banned
I think the most likely laptop at the moment would be an rog zephyrus m16 with a 3060 and 512 ssd.. that's ¥249,000 in the shop i looked at today, $3,017.13 AUD, $2175.40 USD, €1918.05, £1594.67

That said, i don't want to get just get something off the shelf, i want to get something from a brand i respect etc... I've had an eye on a razer blade 15 from 2019 that costs about the same.. i prefer it..

RoG are the best.
You need a 3060 or 3070 with a good wattage to justify your purchase. Don't settle for less.
 

RaySoft

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If you want to make sure everything uses the 3070 make sure you have it set in the Nvidia control panel under global settings.

This is how I have everything set up on mine when gaming:

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And that's why you'd need a MUX switch instead of trying to fudge the Optimus...


..or just google MUX for yourselves. Your busses will thank you;-)
 
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GHG

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And that's why you'd need a MUX switch instead of trying to fudge the Optimus...


..or just google MUX for yourselves. Your busses will thank you;-)


I've never gamed with the laptop directly on it's screen.

If you connect an external monitor/TV then it bypasses the MUX entirely.

Really it depends on how you intend to use it which determines whether or not you need the MUX or not. For that reason I chose to go with the 5800h over the Intel version (which came with a last generation 6 core CPU, can't remember the model number now).
 
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Tschumi

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I've found a Razer 14 3070 for about $1400 AUD, $1157 USD, don't think i can pass the price up.. i mostly game on console these days, mostly rts, rtwp and retro, and have a big ass tv to plug it into, so I'm not too stressed about the small screen.
 
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Tschumi

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And that's why you'd need a MUX switch instead of trying to fudge the Optimus...


..or just google MUX for yourselves. Your busses will thank you;-)

My laptop won't have a mux switch, got a good tutorial for getting around it?
 
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Tschumi

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Meagan Good GIF by Harlem




The only way around it as far as I know is to have it hooked up to an external monitor (via HDMI) while gaming.
I wonder if anyone's made up some freeware that tricks the thing into thinking there's a screen plugged in
 
I will be grabbing me the new 2022 Asus G15 line up when it releases. Great reviews from last year and this years model is only improvements.
 
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Myths

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HP Omen 3070/5900Hx is what I have. It’s on the low end for wattage but it does nice things for me. $1700 roughly.

Oh, and I use an external monitor so.
 
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Tschumi

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Scar 15 lacks MX and can be improved by updating bios n using external monitor (still worth it)


Hey mate,

I've ordered a Razer Blade 14, i got it for about half retail cost (less than the scar) so I'm very excited..

Anyway, I'm trying to figure out how to boot my old laptop to get important files off it, and maybe try to factory reset and resell it.. any ideas on the best way to do that?

When i try to use a Recovery usb or windows install usb it seems like it wants to overwrite whatever's on my still-working hard drives, i mean maybe a fresh windows would be good for resale but as i said i want to try and recover some data...
 
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Windle Poons

Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Maybe take the hard drive out plug it into a sata adaptor and take files off? Am assuming personal documents as opposed to moving programs over - you’ll be able to do that if so.
 

TrueLegend

Member
Hey mate,

I've ordered a Razer Blade 14, i got it for about half retail cost (less than the scar) so I'm very excited..

Anyway, I'm trying to figure out how to boot my old laptop to get important files off it, and maybe try to factory reset and resell it.. any ideas on the best way to do that?

When i try to use a Recovery usb or windows install usb it seems like it wants to overwrite whatever's on my still-working hard drives, i mean maybe a fresh windows would be good for resale but as i said i want to try and recover some data...
Well if you want to recover C drive, Create a Live usb of Linux, boot into it and recover windows files by transferring it into external storage. If you want to recover other drivers and not the C drive then reinstall windows. If you have a drive than you can delete and is equal to or more than 50 gb, you can choose custom install in windows and install it in that drive. But let's say you cant use Linux because you are not good at creating bootable Linux Live iso then you can simply reinstall windows. Windows will save all your files in Windows.old folder in C: drive but it is a bit risky approach.
 

Guileless

Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
What did you end up with OP?

I gave my old Acer Nitro to my son so I'm back in the market. The new Legion 5 Pros are catching my eye - you can get a Ryzen 7 5800H/3060/16 RAM/1 TB SSD build for less than $1,500. And Razer's 2022 models will be on sale in a couple of weeks.
 

pasterpl

Member
You can always get rog flow x13 with the dedicated egpu, it should give you desktop cpu performance


previous edition is galley good and a bit cheaper but it got 1050 on board with 3080 as egpu
 

Tschumi

Member
What did you end up with OP?

I gave my old Acer Nitro to my son so I'm back in the market. The new Legion 5 Pros are catching my eye - you can get a Ryzen 7 5800H/3060/16 RAM/1 TB SSD build for less than $1,500. And Razer's 2022 models will be on sale in a couple of weeks.
I got a Razer Blade 14, i found one in as-new condition for less than the laptops i was looking at.. I'm super happy with it in every way, i play games on my 4k tv with a wireless keyboard and mouse.
 

Tams

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I got a Razer Blade 14, i found one in as-new condition for less than the laptops i was looking at.. I'm super happy with it in every way, i play games on my 4k tv with a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Just be careful with it. Razer have a bad reputation for QC.
 

Tschumi

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Curious Tschumi Tschumi - how far away do you sit from your tv and what kind of PC games do you play?
I dunno, 1.5 to 2 meters i guess, at the moment it's been pillars of eternity 2: Deadfire, the most graphically intense game I've played has been cp2077 on rt ultra
 
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