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DennisK4 said:
DEM FRAMES

Very good. You must be pleased with that. I would love to play some Crysis mods with 16xAA at 2560x1600.
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Yessir. Got my RAM timings down to 7-7-7-24, and am still tweaking some things. Crysis 2 benchmarks should be interesting. Maybe I'll get a third GTX 480 if 3-way SLI scaling improves by then.
 
Very impressive framerates.

BTW don't ever get a tri GPU system. Scaling past two cards is ridiculously bad and in half of games benchmarked performance actually decreases instead of increasing. In the games that do exhibit performance increases the highest seems to be around 20% higher framerates.
 
Mystery said:
2 Pumps (swiftech mcp655, and 355) powering 3 rads - 2 360s, 1 240).

There's a 360 rad mounted to the the top of the case, and one mounted on the back, externally. I modded the Corsair 800D case to take the 3.5" hard drive bay out of the under-compartment, and there's a 240 rad down there.

Loops go like so:

XSPC 5.25" res - mcp355 - CPU (apogee xt block) - 360 rad - res

XSPC 5.25" res - mcp655 - 240 rad - GPU 2 - GPU 1 - Chipset block - external 360 rad - res

As soon as I get some nice stable overclocks on both the CPU and GPUs, I'll run some benches. It's at 4 ghz now, but I should be able to pump it up to 4.6 24/7.
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I haven't done water cooling before but wouldn't you want your GPU look to go through a rad between each GPU rather than GPU 1 directly getting substantially heated liquid directly from GPU 2?

Mr_Brit said:
Very impressive framerates.

BTW don't ever get a tri GPU system. Scaling past two cards is ridiculously bad and in half of games benchmarked performance actually decreases instead of increasing. In the games that do exhibit performance increases the highest seems to be around 20% higher framerates.
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It's true, even his CPU would end up bottle necking 3 480's. Perhaps if a Skulltrail version fo Nehalem ever comes out.
 
Shambles said:
I haven't done water cooling before but wouldn't you want your GPU look to go through a rad between each GPU rather than GPU 1 directly getting substantially heated liquid directly from GPU 2?



It's true, even his CPU would end up bottle necking 3 480's. Perhaps if a Skulltrail version fo Nehalem ever comes out.
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From a strictly thermal perspective, it would be ideal to have a method of dissipating heat after each component is cooled, but adding the excess tubing going to and from the GPU to the radiator, and back to the GPU would impact the flow of the loop. Additionally, the amount of space available to run the tubing back and forth would make things even more cramped than they already are, and I would need angled fittings instead of straight compression fittings. As it stands, my GPUs don't go over 60c under load, so I'm comfortable with my temps where they are. If I wasn't idling at around 40c, and if I was going into the 70s under load, I'd investigate changing my loop, but right now, this loop is the most convenient for me, with pretty effective results.
 
MidgarBlowedUp said:
I had a similar problem with installing windows 7 on my tablet pc. I ended up having to download a driver for my HDD/Mobo and put that on a USB key and select it at the install screen.
or
You may need to go into the BIOS and change how SATA is set up. Like if it has AHCI enabled but you can select something like Compatibility Mode you could try that.
or
You may just need a Bios update.
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I searched google but couldn't find anything that seemed to be drivers for my HDD/mobo. If someone could find what this is I'd appreciate it (HDD model: WD5000AAKS WD Caviar SD16 and MOBO model: EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard).

I went into the BIOS but didn't see any option to change how the SATA is setup outside of choosing a specific option for each one (ie. Removable Disc, Hard Disc, CDRom, etc). If it would help I could list all of the options available.

All that the HDD needs to run is a power sata cable from the PSU and a sata cable running from the HDD to the mobo, correct? And if ordering a new HDD would fix this problem, I will gladly do it =P
 
Kenak said:
I searched google but couldn't find anything that seemed to be drivers for my HDD/mobo. If someone could find what this is I'd appreciate it (HDD model: WD5000AAKS WD Caviar SD16 and MOBO model: EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard).

I went into the BIOS but didn't see any option to change how the SATA is setup outside of choosing a specific option for each one (ie. Removable Disc, Hard Disc, CDRom, etc). If it would help I could list all of the options available.

All that the HDD needs to run is a power sata cable from the PSU and a sata cable running from the HDD to the mobo, correct? And if ordering a new HDD would fix this problem, I will gladly do it =P
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The first screen in the bios will show all the hardware it recognizes such as hard drives and dvd drives etc.
 
Kenak said:
I searched google but couldn't find anything that seemed to be drivers for my HDD/mobo. If someone could find what this is I'd appreciate it (HDD model: WD5000AAKS WD Caviar SD16 and MOBO model: EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard).

I went into the BIOS but didn't see any option to change how the SATA is setup outside of choosing a specific option for each one (ie. Removable Disc, Hard Disc, CDRom, etc). If it would help I could list all of the options available.

All that the HDD needs to run is a power sata cable from the PSU and a sata cable running from the HDD to the mobo, correct? And if ordering a new HDD would fix this problem, I will gladly do it =P
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SATA cable + power is all it needs.

Does the BIOS read it or not?
Try plugging it into the SATA port label SATA0 or SATA1 as the only drive then add your IDE drive after your install. If that doesn't work switch ports to the 2/3 jack and see if it reads.

Your BIOS screen should pop up something like
1. WD5000
2. _______ CD/DVD
 
Hello PC GAF. I am building a new PC in the next few days and am checking all the hardware with you guys to see if I am on the right track. I build my own machine back in 2001 and this hobby went by the wayside after I was finished with college and married. Either way, here are the basic questions answered…

Budget: around $800
Main Use: Gaming, CS5 (I am a graphic designer by trade)
Monitor: I have a 19" CRT that I was going to use and upgrade at a later (Octoberish) 1900x 1200.
Games: (these are musts) Torchlight, Team Fortress 2, Civ4, BioShock, Left4Dead 1 & 2, Portal, The Witcher. (future) Starcraft 2, Civ5, Guild Wars 2

Using the econobox on The Tech Report as a starting point in this build (thanks for the suggestion Hazaro), I went with most (but pretty much all) of their recommendations, but I am willing to hear some discussion on ways I can save money/improve performance/etc. Here are some of my questions:

1. I can pay more money next year to upgrade (like $300), is this system able to handle three years of upgrades/replacements/etc?

2. Any monitor suggestions? I have the 27" iMac screen at work and really like that size, but anything bigger would probably end me since it took 3 weeks to get used to the screen size.

3. Any CPU cooler suggestions? I wanted to overclock this a little to get more out of the i3.

My build:

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Also, I want to buy this sucker sometime today. I will be checking frequently to get involved in the discussion. Thanks in advance.
 
Hazaro said:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19159/2
-I'm unsure how much AutoCAD benefits from 6 cores vs 4 but if it uses them upgrade to a 1055 (+$100)
-Swap in a 4870/4890/5770 (this will fit your budget and currently handle those games decently) The next step up is a 5850/GTX 470 but those are in the $300 range currently. In ~September there will be the nVidia refresh with a GTX 460 hopefully ending the price gouging and lack of a card between $150 and $300 (hopefully retails $200-$220)

Putting together a PC is quite easy, just follow instructions and you are good to go. Everything only fits in 1 place and you only have 8 parts. There are the 15 and 40 minute vids in my post.

Not sure about 'good' but this one is simple and cuts to the chase
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/605848-i5-i7-lga-1156-overclocking-guide.html

I'd suggest starting down 3 notches on your BIOS from the voltages he provided and working your way up by 100Mhz each boot.

His way is how I used to OC though, just ram the thing to what you want :lol
I'm too impatient for increasing FSB by 5 or 10.

For a much more comprehensive guide here is one: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p7p55d-deluxe.html
When it comes to clocks and voltages you can start on this page: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p7p55d-deluxe_11.html#sect0
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What about the GTX465? That's $250. I'm debating between the 465 and 470 myself.
 
nickrempe said:
Hello PC GAF. I am building a new PC in the next few days and am checking all the hardware with you guys to see if I am on the right track. I build my own machine back in 2001 and this hobby went by the wayside after I was finished with college and married. Either way, here are the basic questions answered…

Budget: around $800
Main Use: Gaming, CS5 (I am a graphic designer by trade)
Monitor: I have a 19" CRT that I was going to use and upgrade at a later (Octoberish) 1900x 1200.
Games: (these are musts) Torchlight, Team Fortress 2, Civ4, BioShock, Left4Dead 1 & 2, Portal, The Witcher. (future) Starcraft 2, Civ5, Guild Wars 2

Using the econobox on The Tech Report as a starting point in this build (thanks for the suggestion Hazaro), I went with most (but pretty much all) of their recommendations, but I am willing to hear some discussion on ways I can save money/improve performance/etc. Here are some of my questions:

1. I can pay more money next year to upgrade (like $300), is this system able to handle three years of upgrades/replacements/etc?

2. Any monitor suggestions? I have the 27" iMac screen at work and really like that size, but anything bigger would probably end me since it took 3 weeks to get used to the screen size.

3. Any CPU cooler suggestions? I wanted to overclock this a little to get more out of the i3.

Also, I want to buy this sucker sometime today. I will be checking frequently to get involved in the discussion. Thanks in advance.
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Since you are a graphics designer I would greatly suggest getting an i5 instead. The x4 635 is no slouch, but the i5 DEMOLISHES anything CS5 throws at it. :D Worth it for $75 more.
On the other hand AM3 will likely have a better upgrade path in the next 3 years... But the margin of which the i5 beats the current quad today is quite something. It's not as if it will get any slower.

Some later upgrades could be up to 8GB of RAM if you find yourself constrained by any large projects you work on, but this is something for you to find out.
Also for RAM you should be able to find a $20 cheaper kit by G.Skill/Corsair instead.

Cooler wise I've been suggesting the Cooler Master Hyper TX3.

*The price gouging on the 5770 is just disgusting now. It should be $130 but there are no other current options.
 
Hey guys, what do you HTPC'ers use for simple desktop navigation like launching programs or lite web browsing? Obviously some sort of wireless KB, but any experiences with these Air Mice? Are there better solutions? With FF14's 6 month delay on PS3, I'm going to be forced to build a gaming desktop. I have an idea to use it as both a primary PC on a monitor and a quasi-HTPC via in-wall HDMI and a simple switch, but need a solution to launch programs and stuff away from the tower in an adjacent room.
 
Dynamic3 said:
What about the GTX465? That's $250. I'm debating between the 465 and 470 myself.
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Anandtech review sums it up pretty well
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3745/nvidias-geforce-gtx-465/15

It's a card exactly where it should be. Nothing more, nothing less.
However at $250 it becomes a sort of iffy. It's not a bad card, but it's not great either.
If anything that pricing makes me feel nVidia will play hardball with ATi just as ATi did last year with the upcoming GTX 460 which seems to be promising.

*Apparently the release date for the GTX 460 is within 2 weeks? What the hell. I must have mixed up a refresh with GTX 460 launch :lol
I'd hold off on nabbing a GTX465 now, this should be exciting. Lower GPU prices ahoy! (Unless nVidia phases out the 465 and introduces the 460 at the same price point)
TouchMyBox said:
To be fair, I can find them for $150 Canadian every once in a while.
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Yeah but you should be finding them for $130 daily.
 
After you get your machine built, you might want to spring for an SSD if you have the cash. Nothing feels better than Photoshop launching in under 2 seconds, or After Effects launching in 4.
 
Hazaro said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064
PSU swap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

SSD wise you can jump on in a few months when the new revision get released!
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Yeah, I am going to put the SSD on the docket for later upgrade. The realization that I can boot CS5 applications in a couple seconds is really irresistible to me. I will probably do that upgrade as soon as I can.

I am also having second thoughts about the motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-H57M-USB3) since people in the area (Newton, Iowa, United States) have had a few problems with them. Are there similar alternatives to this board that people have had luck with?
 
Okay, I'm really worried here and any advice will be greatly appreciated.

My new PC is built and running right now but there is a huge problem: The wired ethernet connection on the motherboard is probably a huge dud and it'll be hard to prove it. Over a standard (?) cable straight into my dorm wall my laptop (tested 30mins ago) achieved 10mbps speed. My lovely new PC? 0.10Mbps.

I've done all the things I can think of:
  • Set network to "workspace" not "homespace"
  • Disabled ipv6 and QoS
  • Set my network card to 100Mbps Half-Duplex
  • Gone through my services and culled them
  • Deactivated all anti-malware programs (scans show it's clean)
So what could be the problem? A bad driver through Windows Update or a hardware fault? Christ on a bike, I've been looking forward to this for so long and I only have this weekend to install all my software before I have 15gb of 3g a month.

Any ideas will be appreciated. ISP support say it's not on their end so I'll roll back drivers. Otherwise I'll have a paperweight and internets all summer. >:(

Ed: 7 64bit btw. Steam is 64% updated after an hour. >:(
 
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
The first screen in the bios will show all the hardware it recognizes such as hard drives and dvd drives etc.
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The first screen shows the DVD drive and for the sata slot where the HDD plugs in (Sata 3) it's completely blank; all the other slots say Empty.
Hazaro said:
SATA cable + power is all it needs.

Does the BIOS read it or not?
Try plugging it into the SATA port label SATA0 or SATA1 as the only drive then add your IDE drive after your install. If that doesn't work switch ports to the 2/3 jack and see if it reads.

Your BIOS screen should pop up something like
1. WD5000
2. _______ CD/DVD
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Switching the HDD with the CDDVD drive (putting the HDD in slot 1) makes Slot 1 show blank and slot 3 (where the HDD was) shows the CDDVD drive. I then tried 2 and that failed to work as well.

The HDD just shows up as blank in the BIOS.
 
Ok PC-GAF, what do you think about this possible upgrade.

Currently I have a Core 2 e4300 overclocked to 3.0ghz, 6GB DDR2 RAM, a Asus P5Q Pro (a p45 based mobo), and a ATI 4870 512MB gfx card.

I'm thinking about upgrading to the following:

i7 930 (thank goodness for living close to a microcenter and paying only $199)
6GB DDR3 RAM
ASrock X58 Extreme 3
Coolermaster CM690 II (mostly because it's a good deal in a newegg combo and my current case kinda sucks in terms of cooling and cable mgmt).

All and all this will cost me $600 taking advantage of some current newegg deals, minus whatever I can sell my exisiting used parts for (I'm hoping ~$250ish??).

Considering that I'd be staying with my existing 4870 for the time being, do you guys think this performance boost would be worth the upgrade? I could also consider throwing in another used 4870 for crossfire (but I'm not sure if it's worth bothering spending more money on another 512mb VRAM card at this point). BTW, I'm gaming in 1920X1200.
 
nickrempe said:
Yeah, I am going to put the SSD on the docket for later upgrade. The realization that I can boot CS5 applications in a couple seconds is really irresistible to me. I will probably do that upgrade as soon as I can.

Are there similar alternatives to this board that people have had luck with?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425 seems good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412
Second one has SATA 6Gb/s which might be handy for your SSD down the line (but shouldn't limit it TOO much)
Second PCI-E is negligible, unless you have a capture card or something to use it.
unagisensei said:
Ok PC-GAF, what do you think about this possible upgrade.

Currently I have a Core 2 e4300 overclocked to 3.0ghz, 6GB DDR2 RAM, a Asus P5Q Pro (a p45 based mobo), and a ATI 4870 512MB gfx card.

I'm thinking about upgrading to the following:

i7 930 (thank goodness for living close to a microcenter and paying only $199)
6GB DDR3 RAM
ASrock X58 Extreme 3
Coolermaster CM690 II (mostly because it's a good deal in a newegg combo and my current case kinda sucks in terms of cooling and cable mgmt).

All and all this will cost me $600 taking advantage of some current newegg deals, minus whatever I can sell my exisiting used parts for (I'm hoping ~$250ish??).

Considering that I'd be staying with my existing 4870 for the time being, do you guys think this performance boost would be worth the upgrade? I could also consider throwing in another used 4870 for crossfire (but I'm not sure if it's worth bothering spending more money on another 512mb VRAM card at this point). BTW, I'm gaming in 1920X1200.
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Might as well get an i5 since you can get away with 4GB of RAM and a cheaper mobo.
The increase isn't so great as much as the boost from dual to quad core.

I'm in a similar spot and I'm waiting it out.
 
I've tried to reinstall drivers from the CDs I got but the things are a mess. Chipset setup launches Radeon Catalyst setup instead? I'll totally reformat with the 7 disc, but if that fails I'm getting a refund. No computer is worth all this hassle.
 
Thnikkaman said:
I've tried to reinstall drivers from the CDs I got but the things are a mess. Chipset setup launches Radeon Catalyst setup instead? I'll totally reformat with the 7 disc, but if that fails I'm getting a refund. No computer is worth all this hassle.
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Go to your motherboard manf. website and download your LAN/Ethernet drives from there.
 
This is the processor i'm running.

Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5300 @ 2.60GHz

Whats a good motherboard and processor combo to replace it?
 
Can someone explain to me how PCIx works when you have ones that are x16/x8/x4/x8 etc.?

I realize that the Nvidia cards require 2 PCIx ports each, so does that mean you need a mobo with x16/x16/x16/x16 to truly get full performance with dual-SLI?
 
Hazaro said:
Here's the deal on Single GPUs worth buying listed by lowest performance ->> highest: (Off the top of my head)
~$90: 5670 -> 9800GTX+ -> 4850 -> used 4870/4890
~$130: 5750 512MB
~$150: 5770-GTX 260
~$200: NOTHING
~$250: NOTHING
~$300: 5850/GTX470
~More: 5870-GTX480

As you can see there's a big gap in the middle. nVidia should be releasing a GTX460 at the $200 and $220 price points (Most likely $230 and $250 after shipping + markup). Problem is that is 2-3 months from now, maybe later.
If you want $100 value I'd nab a used 4870. Other than that it's not a great time to buy a GPU unless you are spending $300.
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It seems that there are not a lot of options for 4870/4890. So I'm going to lean towards a 4850. Which one do you recommend? I'm thinking about this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129112&cm_re=4850-_-14-129-112-_-Product
Edit: Am I aiming too low with this card? Should I go for at least a 5770?
 
So I did it and bought one of those Hybrid Seagate Momentus XT drives.

With 500GB and 4GB Flash it combines best of both worlds so far.

Today it arrived and I installed it in my notebook. After cloning my drives to the new one I tried some apps and I'm impressed.

Starting Windows dropped from around 1min 30sec to 30sec.

Starting any Office 2010 application opens it instantly. I cannot even read the Box "word is loading". Firefox and Thunderbird open instantly as well. Awesome stuff. I love it.
 
So I have a PNY video card, and I need the serial number. I don't have the box, is there anywhere else where PNY puts serial numbers?
 
liltony822 said:
It seems that there are not a lot of options for 4870/4890. So I'm going to lean towards a 4850. Which one do you recommend? I'm thinking about this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129112&cm_re=4850-_-14-129-112-_-Product
Edit: Am I aiming too low with this card? Should I go for at least a 5770?
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I wouldn't go with the 4850 unless you got it for around $75.

The 5770 is a fair bit faster. These days I'd draw the line at a 5770. Don't get anything less than that unless you get a great price.
 
Okay, I went to Asus' site for Lan drivers and am now downloading Flash at a whopping 10.5kbps. Looks like no drivers are going to fix this problem. Shitsux. I'm going to buy a separate ethernet adapter tomorrow, maybe USB. Anyone know any reliable ones you can find pretty easily?
 
So I'm thinking about upgrading my motherboard in the near future but, I want to keep all the parts I have in my current system and use them with it.

I want to go Dual PCI-e and eventually get another 5770

My current system is:
Mobo= GA-MA785GM-US2H (rev 1)
Athlon II (Propus) X4 260
8GB of 800Mhz DDR2 ram

So I want a budget motherboard that will take my processor and ram and give me to PCI-e slots and give good performance at least on par with my current motherboard.

For what it is worth I rate 7.3 on the Windows 7 Experience index
I'm actually pretty happy with my system at present but, I think building a budget xfire system would be a fun next step.

-edit- Looks like the 790fx is what I'm after?


I think I found a winner or maybe not since I don't think it supports Athlon II's
http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-A79AS
 
If anyone is interested in a graphics card update, I am looking to move a PNY GeForce GTS 250 1GB card. PM me if you're interested. I have not yet registered it on the PNY site, and I believe the serial number is on the back of the PCB(there is a label there with some numbers)
 
Lkr said:
If anyone is interested in a graphics card update, I am looking to move a PNY GeForce GTS 250 1GB card. PM me if you're interested. I have not yet registered it on the PNY site, and I believe the serial number is on the back of the PCB(there is a label there with some numbers)
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Yeah that's shady
 
zero margin said:
Yeah that's shady
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What is shady? People sell stuff on GAF all the time. I posted it in the buy/sell/trade thread, but figured I'd also post it here in case there is anyone looking for a video card and is browsing this thread. I just got a 5850, this card is doing nothing for me now.
 
zero margin said:
Sorry. Sounded shady :lol
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No problem. This really isn't a thread for selling stuff, which is why I'm probably the first person to do such a thing:lol

I only posted it in here because it pertains to PC parts, and I know people that browse this thread are looking for a good priced part.
 
Lkr said:
AM2+? What CPU are you using and why no DDR3?
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Athlon II x4 620

I have 8GB of 800mhz DDR2 in my current system and do not want to spend the money to upgrade. I just hope the Asrock board will X-fire two 5770's. I hear so much crap about 4 lane, 8 lane, 16 lane, that I just have no clue anymore.
 
MidgarBlowedUp said:
Athlon II x4 620

I have 8GB of 800mhz DDR2 in my current system and do not want to spend the money to upgrade. I just hope the Asrock board will X-fire two 5770's. I hear so much crap about 4 lane, 8 lane, 16 lane, that I just have no clue anymore.
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According to the specs, it is CrossfireX compatible, so you shouldn't have a problem
 
Caesar III said:
So I did it and bought one of those Hybrid Seagate Momentus XT drives.

With 500GB and 4GB Flash it combines best of both worlds so far.

Today it arrived and I installed it in my notebook. After cloning my drives to the new one I tried some apps and I'm impressed.

Starting Windows dropped from around 1min 30sec to 30sec.

Starting any Office 2010 application opens it instantly. I cannot even read the Box "word is loading". Firefox and Thunderbird open instantly as well. Awesome stuff. I love it.
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Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I knew they had tried this before, but it didn't work. Glad to see one that does.
MidgarBlowedUp said:
Athlon II x4 620

I have 8GB of 800mhz DDR2 in my current system and do not want to spend the money to upgrade. I just hope the Asrock board will X-fire two 5770's. I hear so much crap about 4 lane, 8 lane, 16 lane, that I just have no clue anymore.
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While the motherboard should handle dual 5770's well enough (The x4 lane will result in a ~4% average fps drop), dual GPU set-ups don't make a lot of sense to me because they can have many issues pop up along with problems scaling in many games. Sure you can argue that you get better FPS/$ in some cases, but was it worth it?
Why not unload your 5770 and grab a 5850 instead? It's simpler. Also it's not that cost effective unless you nab a 5770 on the cheap now.

Also from a newegg review (for what it is worth, I'm not downloading the .pdf manual)
Other Thoughts: Be careful of which processor you're planning on putting in. It doesn's say in the specs that it only accepts Phenom II x4 if its an AM3 slot, the AM2+ wont work. The list of applicable processors is:
AM2+/AM2 socket- Phenom FX, Phenom, Athlon 64 FX, Athlon 64 x2 (dual core), Athlon 64, all Sempron processors
AM3- Phenom II x4/x3/x2, Athlon II x4/x3/x2
Taken straight from the mobo manual.
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Unsure if that will change via BIOS update.
** I checked the manual and website and indeed a BIOS update has been released to support x6 CPU's.

http://www.asrock.com.tw/mb/cpu.asp?Model=A785GXH/128M
 
Hazaro said:
Why not unload your 5770 and grab a 5850 instead? It's simpler. Also it's not that cost effective unless you nab a 5770 on the cheap now.
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That's a thought. I could always move my 5770 to my basement rig.
Or
sell it to my cousin, he is a cheap-ass and has this 9750x2 in his rig. A 5770 should be an update for him.

hmm, but on the other hand, I want to be hip and cool so I can say the word crossfire in a regular conversation. Then I'll be able to type Xfire a lot online and that will up my e-penis status.

Also, thank you for checking the manual and website.
 
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