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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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daCuk said:
For power consumption your X2 is using about as much power as a 5850 so it's all up to your price point really. The best value for lower end stuff is probably a <100$ GTS 250, some 4850's could be around there too but aren't as strong as the 250. For the newer generation cards I wouldn't bother with anything less than a 5770 but for 150$+ i'm not very impressed with it's performance.
demosthenes
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Amneisac said:
We have very similar builds, though I may be going for a SSD...still haven't decided and I'm waiting on the video cards over the next week or so to see how stuff settles.
demosthenes
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I may cave and get the Palit, I've only used XFX cards and have never had any problems w/ them, how are they as a manufacturer?
demosthenes said:
I have a Palit 4870 and have been fairly happy with it. It's a dual fan cooling system with a larger and a smaller fan. The larger fan runs are variable speed but the smaller one runs at 100% and is loud as hell. Fortunately I could unplug the smaller one and the larger one still provides great cooling.
demosthenes
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Shambles said:
I'm not familiar w/ OC'ing. But could I get the $220 card and simply increase the speeds to the $250 card?
Also, are these the only 460 cards coming out probably? Or can we expect some more in the coming weeks?
Smokey said:
I got my 980x to 4.7 stable on water... I haven't tried it on air.
I'm running a 4.4 Ghz 24/7 overclock, but unless you're doing extreme benching, 4.2-4.4 for 24/7 will ensure that your CPU won't bottleneck any other component in your build.
I hit 4 really easy on water, so I'm pretty sure it's doable on air.
Edit: Change your chassis to the Corsair 800D. Seriously, it's the best case I've EVER used.
If you were in North America I'd recommend cases like Antec 900-2, Antec Performance One series, Cooler Master HAF 922, CM 690-2, CM Storm series, Lancool K-60/K-62. Lian Li proper also has a few aluminium cases falling into the $100 US range like thisBaloonatic said:
LIAN LI PC-7FN
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112249
Since you're in the UK, I'd recommend one of my favorite new cases, Fractal Design's Define R2.
http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=define+r2
About £80 including VAT. Add a second intake fan and/or a 120/140mm top exhaust and you would have a great, quiet case for not very much money. Take a look at Youtube and some tech site reviews. I don't know how Scan's prices compare to other retailers, as far as any of the cases I mentioned, so maybe UK PC GAF can chime in on that.
Sadly, Fry's refuses to let me give them money by opening a location near me, so I'm not sure how their b&m sales run. I heard about the sale on Thursday/Friday. Here's a link to the site listing if you want to grab the item number and give them a call for in store availability.Smokey said:
http://www.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&query_string=980x&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&cat=0
demosthenes
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d0g_bear said:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
Wait for that to get updated?
edit: It's not an option for me...the XFX 5850 is too long for my case :lol I'm just curious as to if there will be anymore coming out.
d0g_bear said:
We'll have to wait for official benchmarks to be sure, but most likely it will fall somewhere between the 5830 and 5850 (approximately near the 465). It is highly overclock-able, however, and so at maximum stable speeds it might be approaching the 5850. Mine should be here Wednesday or Thursday, so I'll be sure to post my findings then.
BrassMonkey1010
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argg, advice please!
I just ordered my new rig, and got a 5770. Should I return this right when I get it for the new Nvidia card? Does anyone know what neweggs return policy is?
I just ordered my new rig, and got a 5770. Should I return this right when I get it for the new Nvidia card? Does anyone know what neweggs return policy is?
BrassMonkey1010 said:
VGA Standard Return Policy
* Return for refund within: 30 days
* Return for replacement within: 30 days
This is our Standard 30-Day Return Policy. Items covered by this policy (those products for which Newegg states "This item may be returned for a replacement or refund within 30 days only") must be returned to Newegg within 30 days of the invoice date for this policy to apply. Return constitutes receipt of the product by Newegg, and not the mere issuance of an RMA.
The following conditions are not acceptable for return, and will result in the merchandise you have returned to Newegg being returned to you:
* Cards exhibiting physical damage
* Cards that are missing the manufacturer label containing model number, part number or serial number
* Cards that are missing the manufacturer warranty label
* Cards returned without all included accessories, bonus games, and documentation
Mystery said:
I'm really, really concerned about water cooling. I dunno I just shudder at the thought of something going wrong and leakage occurring and bam...computer is done. Are there any beginner guides to water cooling or something?
As far as OC'ing goes...I just wanted to get it to 4 ghz and call it a day.
BrassMonkey1010
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Amneisac said:
alright...sigh of relief. I will look at how the benchmarks turn out for Nvidia's card, and then make a decision. It is $65 more then I payed for the 5770 and I already planned on upgrading the 5770 sometime next year to one of the big boy cards, so im not sure what I will do...
The_Inquisitor
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Hey guys. Need to build a PC for a relative. 500 dollar budget. Already have a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I would prefer to go intel. Do not want a gpu, onboard graphics should suffice. Can anyone put a build up for me? Thanks!
The_Inquisitor said:
I know you explicitly said that you wanted Intel but in my humble opinion, any user that wouldn't need a dedicated graphics card won't notice if the difference in performance between a cheap Athlon or Intel dualcore. Also, at the $500 range for what I assume is just a home PC for browsing the net, the biggest cost will probably be your OS so maybe a pre-built machine from any of the big names might be a good choice. Looking at deals sites like techbargains might find you something you can order without too much hassle. In fact, you can probably find something okay $400 and maybe pocket the difference
The_Inquisitor
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kagete said:I know you explicitly said that you wanted Intel but in my humble opinion, any user that wouldn't need a dedicated graphics card won't notice if the difference in performance between a cheap Athlon or Intel dualcore. Also, at the $500 range for what I assume is just a home PC for browsing the net, the biggest cost will probably be your OS so maybe a pre-built machine from any of the big names might be a good choice. Looking at deals sites like techbargains might find you something you can order without too much hassle. In fact, you can probably find something okay $400 and maybe pocket the difference
Nah I'm getting 7 for 15 dollars already via student discount. That's a non issue. I also like the longer warranty pieces have versus the pre builts.
I'm thinking i3 but wouldn't mind going i5. Again no need for dedicated gpu. I an building myself.
FleckSplat
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I saw a NewEgg video recommending that I assemble the PC parts outside of the case, hook everything up and test it out first. If it works, THEN put it in the box.
Is this a good thing to do? It seems unsafe and a waste of time to me.
Is this a good thing to do? It seems unsafe and a waste of time to me.
brain_stew
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The_Inquisitor said:
Just get them a prebuilt store machine.
If you really must build it yourself then I just don't understand the insistence to go Intel. A general use PC like that would be much better served with a Athlon ii X4 630 or similar. Plus, this will earn you more upgrade options down the line.
The_Inquisitor
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kagete said:I know you explicitly said that you wanted Intel but in my humble opinion, any user that wouldn't need a dedicated graphics card won't notice if the difference in performance between a cheap Athlon or Intel dualcore. Also, at the $500 range for what I assume is just a home PC for browsing the net, the biggest cost will probably be your OS so maybe a pre-built machine from any of the big names might be a good choice. Looking at deals sites like techbargains might find you something you can order without too much hassle. In fact, you can probably find something okay $400 and maybe pocket the difference
Nah I'm getting 7 for 15 dollars already via student discount. That's a non issue. I also like the longer warranty pieces have versus the pre builts.
I'm thinking i3 but wouldn't mind going i5. Again no need for dedicated gpu. I an building myself.
FleckSplat
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WEGGLES said:
I don't know. It just seemed that having the components out in the open would lead to problems. I'll be sure to do this method then.
brain_stew
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Lkr said:
No. Might run it close once OCed though. Price
erformance definitely looks like its better, either way.Best Buy should actually have them in stock.Salaadin said:
For Steam I think the best way is to use a 'Symbolic Link'. The files will be on your 640GB, but it will think it is on C: (So I understand). Steam can only be installed on your main drive. Stupid, I know.Salaadin said:
Formatting you can just do a quick format via windows. As for programs on SSD try to put as many small ones as you can squeeze on there.
Anti Virus
MS Office / Word / etc.
Monitoring software
Photoshop
Any amount of small 10-50MB programs.
Newegg return help:
This item is covered by Newegg.com's VGA Standard Return Policy.
* Return for refund within: 30 days
* Return for replacement within: 30 days
That is what it lists for my 5850. It has been opened. Will I be charged a restocking fee or anything? Or will I get a straight refund?
This item is covered by Newegg.com's VGA Standard Return Policy.
* Return for refund within: 30 days
* Return for replacement within: 30 days
That is what it lists for my 5850. It has been opened. Will I be charged a restocking fee or anything? Or will I get a straight refund?
The_Inquisitor
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FleckSplat said:
Not at all. Only issue is static electricity. Just don't assemble on carpet and use a wristrap grounded to your case
Opened is tough. I was using my 500GB HDD and found out that a faster 640GB came out for $5 more about 3 days after. I called up and explained the situation and I got them to send me a shipping label + refund the full amount + and ordered the new 640GB for me.Lkr said:
Newegg customer service is really good but don't be surprised if you do get charged a restocking fee since you have actually used it.
Antec 900 is nice.Baloonatic said:
HiddenSentry
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The_Inquisitor said:
Just touching things by the edges and grounding yourself (touch something metal, like a door knob) occasionally also works ok if you lack the wriststrap. Also, don't shuffle your feet on carpet. :lol
Baloonatic
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·feist· said:
Thanks, I'll check these out.
I'm not really sure whether I should go for ATI or not. I'm having such a shit time with their drivers. Can't upgrade past 10.2 because every version after that gives me some sort of overscan issue where it reverts to 10% overscan whenever I load a game. Maybe I should look into the 460.
The_Inquisitor
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Any suggestions for builds based on my budget and requests? I was putting something together on newegg, but it's been 5 years since I last built something
nVidia produces a card. Other companies can tweak this card (add more regulators, add more RAM, different cooler, etc.) to make it non-reference.Nightz said:
Normally it is used loosely to non-standard coolers since there are only a few truly non-reference GPUs (Palit mainly).
1.35V uses less power (tiny amount). If you have an i5/i7 the RAM voltage is linked so you don't want to go above 1.65V.Dr.Acula said:
I'd just get the cheapest sticks on there.
It was supposed to launch the 14th, but retailers got it early.JudgeN said:
Ryoma-Echizen
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Lkr said:
No.
Just a more serious competition for the HD5830. Overclocked comes close but 5850 also overclocks, right?
The_Inquisitor
AMD is better for the same budget.
Athlon II X4 635 2.9Ghz $99
ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 $108
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 2x2GB $97
Seagate 7200.12 500GB $55
COOLER MASTER Gladiator 600 $55
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w $60
LG GH22NS50 $24
$498
Was looking for quieter PC fans. Ended up going with 2 Noctua 120mm and 1 Noctua 140mm. These will replace the antec fans my three hundred case came with. Nice fans, but kinda loud. Will report back once they're in.
Next on the list is an SSD once 250GB gets cheaper and I won't have to hear a stupid platter spinning.
Any ProTips on reducing CPU fan "revving," btw? It feels hyper-active to me how fast it changes as the clock ticks up for a few seconds when I open an app..
Next on the list is an SSD once 250GB gets cheaper and I won't have to hear a stupid platter spinning.
Any ProTips on reducing CPU fan "revving," btw? It feels hyper-active to me how fast it changes as the clock ticks up for a few seconds when I open an app..