If you feel like spending an extra $30, I think the HAF 922 is completely worth it. It gives you a 200mm intake, 200mm top exhaust, and 120mm rear exhaust, instead of 120mm intake and 120mm exhaust. You also get tool-less drive installation. Well worth the $30, IMO. It's such an amazing case for the money.
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AceBandage
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Thanks for the suggests (and more are of course welcome).
I think I'll go with the 912 for now, but I might change to the 922. I'm not ready to pull the trigger just yet.
I think I'll go with the 912 for now, but I might change to the 922. I'm not ready to pull the trigger just yet.
brain_stew
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Vigilant Walrus said:I do need the resolution mate, but I am afraid that it will hamper by... performance. Obviously Crysis and GTA4 are going to run worse in 2560x1440. The golden rule is always to run in native?
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With GPU scaling available as standard now, its not as big an issue as it was. 1080P hardware scaled will still look fantastic on that screen. A good way to get extra resolution is a dual monitor setup, maybe that's a better way to go?
quick question regarding profiles.
I checked on the nvidia control panel to enhace AA and AF at 8x but launching red faction guerrilla I can't see the difference between it being on and off.
Is the nvidia control panel ok for that? I also got nvidia inspector but I have no idea how to use it or what to change exactly on the profiles.
thanks!
I checked on the nvidia control panel to enhace AA and AF at 8x but launching red faction guerrilla I can't see the difference between it being on and off.
Is the nvidia control panel ok for that? I also got nvidia inspector but I have no idea how to use it or what to change exactly on the profiles.
thanks!
theshizzle
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If you still want to stick to your $600-700 budget, you can downgrade the cpu and graphics card, you can go with this build:AceBandage said:
I made this up kind of quick. It's been a while since I've gotten a computer from scratch (been on a laptop for years), so any recommendations, criticism, mocking is welcome. I was hoping to get it at $600-700 but the OS shot me over it.
My main goal is just to play most RTS and WoW at good FPS and settings.
Anyway, berate away.
~$600 + $100 Windows OS = ~$700 that you were looking for
Enter Promo Code EMCZZYR24 for -$17 on the graphics card
you get a better hard drive and better case at the cost of cpu and slightly less powerful card, but i think it is well worth it for what you plan to use the computer for.
AceBandage
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theshizzle said:If you still want to stick to your $600-700 budget, you can downgrade the cpu and graphics card, you can go with this build:
~$600 + $100 Windows OS = ~$700 that you were looking for
Enter Promo Code EMCZZYR24 for -$17 on the graphics card
you get a better hard drive and better case at the cost of cpu and slightly less powerful card, but i think it is well worth it for what you plan to use the computer for.
Thanks, though it seems most of those deals aren't on anymore.
When I got it all in, it was about $750.
brain_stew
Member
itxaka said:
It won't work in all games, but the AF does indeed work in Red Faction. RF has ingame MSAA settings, use those.
brain_stew
Member
lordy88 said:Anyone looking for a sweet top of the line build for under $900 look no further:
Rosewill PSU and case?
Micro ATX Biostar motherboard?
5400RPM HDD?
5850 GPU?
Wintec RAM?
Sorry, but I think that's a terrible config.
brain_stew
Member
AceBandage said:
You need to add the specific combo deals to get the savings. Adding the parts individually won't work.
AceBandage
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brain_stew said:
Yeah, most of the deals were replaced.
Such as, the Samsung HDD now comes with Windows 7 Professional.
TouchMyBox
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Vigilant Walrus said:I do need the resolution mate, but I am afraid that it will hamper by... performance. Obviously Crysis and GTA4 are going to run worse in 2560x1440. The golden rule is always to run in native?
I dont know of 470 SLI will be able to handle games at that rez!? It might not be enough!
I have that monitor connected to a radeon 5770. It's not smooth as butter, but games are certainly playable. So yes, your SLI set up will prove to be able.
Mikhal said:
Nay, it works with DDR3. Take a look here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130266
Edit: Wait. Wait. You're right. G.Skill does 1600 MHZ, this does 1066. Gaaahhh. Let me fix that up...
Edit2: Aha! Found this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157212
Saves you $8 as well
The overview details are wrong. It's a DDR2 board. You can check on the details tab on the Newegg page, or the actual MSI site here:
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1884
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1884
theshizzle
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The deals are still available, here are the links to the combos:AceBandage said:
Athlon II x4 640 $99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
Cheap Mobo + gtx460 768mb $223 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.534591
4GB(2x2GB) 1600 Ram + 600W 80+ Modular PSU $130 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.549138
Cooler Master HAF 912 + 1TB Samsung F3 HD $120 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543371
Asus 24x DVD Burner $19 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
I presume you are only looking at the featured combo on the overview tab of the item. If you click "Browse More Combos" you will see that the item you are looking at may have more than 100 combos available to look through.
Jin34 said:
Only the front fans have filters, I believe. Mind you, I haven't tried removing them first hand...the system I built with the HAF 922 is an hour away at my cousin's place.
Now, since it has a 200mm intake, and a 200mm exhaust + 120mm exhaust, you'd probably want to make sure the intake is running faster than the exhausts so that there is positive pressure in the case, causing air to only come in through the intake (and therefore, through the dust filters). You could also add a second intake at the 5 1/2 inch bays. If you do want to add a side fan, then yeah, you'll have some dust accumulate.
The 922 isn't perfect, but it's, IMO, the best case for the money. It's main competition is the Antec Nine Hundred Two, and it beats that quite handily. It doesn't look quite as pretty, but the interior workings of the case really put it to shame.
If you really want to start going towards more 'perfect' cases, then you could step up to something like the Coolermaster Storm Sniper.
TheExodu5 said:
Yeah that's why I really like the Corsair 600T, that case looks fantastic. Know of any good fan controllers?
@comrade: I have the same cpu, and there is no need to upgrade if gaming is your point, you won't see any difference unless you are playing at really low resolutions. Gaming isn't really what pushes cpus to the limit. The only cpus you would even begin to consider are ones that aren't even out yet: Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer, and even then it's only if money is no concern.
Jin34 said:
The 600T really seems like an amazing case. But like I said, higher end. It's nearly double the price of the 922.
As for fan controllers...I don't use one myself. I hear of the Scythe Kaze more than anything though.
Myself, I'm going with a Corsair 800D for my next case. Although the airflow isn't as nice as the 600T, it's just far too sexy for me to ignore. No fan controller there either though. I might pick up that Scythe Kaze when the time comes, and maybe mount it in an inverted position (with the dials inside the case) to keep the aesthetics going. Really though, motherboard fan control is probably all I need. Cutting down overclocks by 5% is going to alleviate any airflow concerns, most likely.
That's largely down to a combination of most software failing to make proper use of quad-cores, let alone hexa-cores, and the clock speed of each core. This is a bit like all of the users who opted to buy 3.0GHz dual cores over 2.4GHz quads as the dual cores were faster at certain tasks. Which of the two CPU types would you rather still have in your PC now?comrade said:
Bioshock Infinite and Crysis 2 are just a few of the titles that will start making better use of the higher core counts as they are designed to scale from the outset.
That said, there really isn't a major need for you to upgrade your CPU any time soon. Overclock it if you aren't entirely satisfied with your current level of performance. By the time that you'll need/want a significant bump, Bulldozers will be here and they should provide increased all-around performance. Of course that would require a new motherboard.
If you have no intentions of changing out your mobo for the next year or more, and want more performance (muti-tasking, editing, encoding, games that warrant the change, etc.), I'd skip the current X6s and wait for the upcoming ones. The X6 1100T will sit above the 1090T if you want the "best." AMD will also somewhat make up for their refusal to sell the 95w version of the 1055T in great numbers by releasing the faster, 95w 1065T. No reason to buy a 125w chip when the 95w iteration clocks just as well, uses less power and can be used in a wider variety of builds, like mini-ITX.
theshizzle
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You can combo the case and hard drive to save some moneycorpserot said:
* Intel Core i7 860 2.8 GHz (Turbo Boost @ 3.46 GHz) Quad Core
* 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 (4 x 2 GB)
* ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX460 1024 MB (CUDA and PhysX -support)
* Asus Intel P55 Express
* 1 TB 7200 rpm 32 MB cache, SATAII
* DVD+-RW / CD-R / RW
* Casing Antec Three Hundred
* Corsair 550W
Bought it today. Costed some money and because I'm cheap as Scrooge McDuck I can't really enjoy my computer just yet. I have to grieve for my lost money ;_( Maybe some day I will get over this and start playing again. Retrospective I'm kinda pissed that I just dind't buy BD-drive right from the start.
* 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 (4 x 2 GB)
* ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX460 1024 MB (CUDA and PhysX -support)
* Asus Intel P55 Express
* 1 TB 7200 rpm 32 MB cache, SATAII
* DVD+-RW / CD-R / RW
* Casing Antec Three Hundred
* Corsair 550W
Bought it today. Costed some money and because I'm cheap as Scrooge McDuck I can't really enjoy my computer just yet. I have to grieve for my lost money ;_( Maybe some day I will get over this and start playing again. Retrospective I'm kinda pissed that I just dind't buy BD-drive right from the start.
AceBandage
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Ah ha. Thank you very much.theshizzle said:
Ryoma-Echizen
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A new CF/HD combo appeared on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.540702
2xXFX HD6850 1GB + Seagate 7200.12 1TB
$415
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.540702
2xXFX HD6850 1GB + Seagate 7200.12 1TB
$415
Mr Sandman
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CPUs fine, brah.comrade said:
brain_stew
Member
comrade said:
OC.
AceBandage
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Hazaro said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
Ok, I came up with this build. (Not including the OS)
Now, will all these parts work together?
I just discovered there are super nice cases for PC. When i started with Mac i thought all PCs looked either like a messy Neon Circus (the LAN type) or like a 90s office... (Dell)
I just discovered Lian Li. These cases are just amazingly nice looking!
I am going to Hong Kong and i was wondering if one is able to pick up some computer parts there.
I was wondering about the
Lian Li PC-B10
Lian Li PC-9
Lian Li 60-FN
PC-9F
PC-8NWX
PC-8FI
The PC-7/8F
Looks really clean. Actually i find the E-ATX to be even hotter since they are even more minimalistic but they seem a bit over the top since i am aiming for a price of around 1100 EURO (around 1500 USD as of now).
Is it a good choice to buy Lian Li with fan included?
Maybe its madness take a 5 Kg case on the flight. Hmf.
Nevertheless, whats your opinion on these cases above (or something similar). I want it to be clean looking, like a Mac Pro. Preferably no blue lights or some weird shape.
I just discovered Lian Li. These cases are just amazingly nice looking!
I am going to Hong Kong and i was wondering if one is able to pick up some computer parts there.
I was wondering about the
Lian Li PC-B10
Lian Li PC-9
Lian Li 60-FN
PC-9F
PC-8NWX
PC-8FI
The PC-7/8F
Looks really clean. Actually i find the E-ATX to be even hotter since they are even more minimalistic but they seem a bit over the top since i am aiming for a price of around 1100 EURO (around 1500 USD as of now).
Is it a good choice to buy Lian Li with fan included?
Maybe its madness take a 5 Kg case on the flight. Hmf.
Nevertheless, whats your opinion on these cases above (or something similar). I want it to be clean looking, like a Mac Pro. Preferably no blue lights or some weird shape.
Yup. Build looks real nice.
*Lian-Li cases are some of the best around so you don't have to worry about anything other than price.
I don't know if the RocketFish case is too big for you (It's a rebranded Lian-Li sold at Best Buy) but that is a nice case that is a copy of one of their other models.
*Lian-Li cases are some of the best around so you don't have to worry about anything other than price.
I don't know if the RocketFish case is too big for you (It's a rebranded Lian-Li sold at Best Buy) but that is a nice case that is a copy of one of their other models.
There's supposedly going to be a Bulldozer demo next week, followed by engineering samples sometime after that.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...sktop_Bulldozer_Microprocessors_in_April.html
AMD to Start Production of Desktop "Bulldozer" Microprocessors in April.
Engineering Samples of AMD's Next-Generation Desktop Chips Due Next Month
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...ulldozer_2_Set_to_Support_New_Extensions.html
AMD's Bulldozer 2 Set to Support New Extensions.
BDver2 Shows Its Innovations
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...lano_Production_to_Initiate_in_July_2011.html
AMD's Llano Production to Initiate in July 2011.
Final AMD Llano Schedules Revealed
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...sktop_Bulldozer_Microprocessors_in_April.html
AMD to Start Production of Desktop "Bulldozer" Microprocessors in April.
Engineering Samples of AMD's Next-Generation Desktop Chips Due Next Month
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...ulldozer_2_Set_to_Support_New_Extensions.html
AMD's Bulldozer 2 Set to Support New Extensions.
BDver2 Shows Its Innovations
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...lano_Production_to_Initiate_in_July_2011.html
AMD's Llano Production to Initiate in July 2011.
Final AMD Llano Schedules Revealed
AceBandage
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Hazaro said:
Awesome, thanks a lot.
Not sure when exactly I'll get it but it is probably soon. This laptop is not going to last me much longer.
The screen and the CD Drive already gave out on me.
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EXACTLY. These guys are killing me.Hazaro said:
Apart from any additional 6- and 8-core chips we essentially have a good idea of what to expect from Intel. AMD is such a tease, though.
Trying my best to hold off upgrading until I can get a nice 22nm CPU + 28nm GPU, but I may have to bite on a "stop-gap" solution so I'd really like to see what both sides are offering.
I want to build a new PC when Intel has reasonably priced ($300) octocore CPUs.
I plan on going with a Corsair 800D, top of the line single GPU ( or maybe try SLI/Crossfire if I'm feeling ballsy), and RAID SSDs. Can you tell I'm getting anxious.
I kind of feel like trying water-cooling as well. The Corsair 800D just looks like it's begging for it. Thankfully, a good friend of mine has gone that route before so he can walk me through it. I'm not sure though...I know it's really not worth the effort, but I want to have the experience of doing it.
I plan on going with a Corsair 800D, top of the line single GPU ( or maybe try SLI/Crossfire if I'm feeling ballsy), and RAID SSDs. Can you tell I'm getting anxious.
I kind of feel like trying water-cooling as well. The Corsair 800D just looks like it's begging for it. Thankfully, a good friend of mine has gone that route before so he can walk me through it. I'm not sure though...I know it's really not worth the effort, but I want to have the experience of doing it.
brain_stew
Member
·feist· said:
How many times do I have to tell people not to post tech news in here. :/
This is a help thread, I created a tech. news/discussion thread because posts like these were getting in the way, please use it:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=389012&page=7
So i was thinking of this:
Graphics: Gainward GeForce GTX 460 1GB PhysX CUDA
Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar® GreenPower 1TB
Mainboard: ASUS P7P55D-E LX, Socket-1156
Processor: Intel Core i7 Quad Processor i7-950 (Quad Core, 3,06Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, 130W)
Burner: Samsung DVD
Memory: Kingston DDR3 HyperX T1 2000MHz 6GB
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro M500 500W PSU
Lian Li ATX tower
What about this one? How good is this rig? Is there anything in here that does not really matches the overall feeling of the rig? Is the Processor too powerful or the Memory a bit too expensive? Does the processor sockets need to match, im so beginner with this
Does it add up ?
Where will this rig take me?
Graphics: Gainward GeForce GTX 460 1GB PhysX CUDA
Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar® GreenPower 1TB
Mainboard: ASUS P7P55D-E LX, Socket-1156
Processor: Intel Core i7 Quad Processor i7-950 (Quad Core, 3,06Ghz, Socket 1366, 8MB, 130W)
Burner: Samsung DVD
Memory: Kingston DDR3 HyperX T1 2000MHz 6GB
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro M500 500W PSU
Lian Li ATX tower
What about this one? How good is this rig? Is there anything in here that does not really matches the overall feeling of the rig? Is the Processor too powerful or the Memory a bit too expensive? Does the processor sockets need to match, im so beginner with this
Does it add up ?
Where will this rig take me?