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[chixdiggit]

http://i31.tinypic.com/1f7l0p.jpg

Do you have advanced options selected?

I do have advanced selected but all those options do not come up. Like where your screen says "Video and Television" mine only says "Video"

 

[Hazaro]

Here's the build I'm currently set on:

Intel i7-930
GTX 460
Gigabyte X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 X58 ATX Motherboard
Corsair TX 650 Watt ATX Power Supply
Cooler Master RC-692-KKN3 CM690 II Basic Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Cooler Master Hyper 212+
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit
Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Samsung 22x DVD±RW Burner

Is the 650w PSU enough if I want to add another HDD in the future? I don't intend on using multiple graphics cards.

Absolutely. A HDD uses around 10W on load.

Are you getting in on a Microcenter deal? What will you be using the computer for?
A 1055 might be another option for you. Also 4GB in dual channel is fine and will not have any real world performance impact (Unless you need 6GB for some reason).

Parts are great btw.

I do have advanced selected but all those options do not come up. Like where your screen says "Video and Television" mine only says "Video"

Are your drivers up to date with the ones on the nVidia website?
Mine are actually rather old. 185.85 here

 

[chixdiggit]

Are your drivers up to date with the ones on the nVidia website?
Mine are actually rather old. 185.85 here

Yes just downloaded them today.

When I go to device manager my TV is listed as "Generic PnP Monitor"

 

[Gribbix]

Absolutely. A HDD uses around 10W on load.

Are you getting in on a Microcenter deal? What will you be using the computer for?

Yep, Microcenter deal. I'm planning to use the computer for gaming, software development, and video editing.

A 1055 might be another option for you. Also 4GB in dual channel is fine and will not have any real world performance impact (Unless you need 6GB for some reason).

I figured the extra ram would be helpful for video editing.

 

[chixdiggit]

much appreciated help. Seriously thank you.

OK so in my TV menu I switched the aspect ratio from "16:9" to "Screen Fit" and everything seems fine.

Still would like to know why I don't have all the options in the Nvidia control panel though.

 

[·feist·]

I discovered that the mobo I'm buying doesn't support IDE, so my old drive has got to go. I also added another stick of memory. Photoshop was beginning to chug on large canvases anyway. I surpassed my original budget, but there's normal for me.

http://i29.tinypic.com/4vi83d.png

See below:

As I mentioned before, something is off with Newegg.com's pricing as of late. Amazon's $30 list price isn't actually a deal since the Hyper 212+ has an MSRP of $29.99.

Microcenter seems tio be one of the few places that still has a regular sale on the 212+. It was marked down to $20 a few weeks ago and I believe it's at $25 now.

edIt: MC has it back down to $20 again, online and in-store

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal CPU Cooler $19.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0315397

Yep, Microcenter deal.

I take it you're getting your HSF from there as well?

 

[Hazaro]

Yep, Microcenter deal. I'm planning to use the computer for gaming, software development, and video editing.


I figured the extra ram would be helpful for video editing.

The i7 will serve you very well for all of those. Might not have the same upgrade path as AM3 but you'll definitely get the performance out of it that you want.

 

[Gribbix]

I take it you're getting your HSF from there as well?

Yep. I'm trying to pick up as many parts as I can from there since I live in CA where newegg charges sales tax.

The i7 will serve you very well for all of those. Might not have the same upgrade path as AM3 but you'll definitely get the performance out of it that you want.

Thanks a lot for helping me pick out parts. It's pretty hard to choose from such a wide variety of options.

 

[JRW]

Isnt it kinda silly this benchmark only runs in windowed mode? seems that would drop performance, Anyhow heres my results, GTX 480 @ Stock clocks.

720P

1080p

 

[grkazan12]

Hey Hazaro thanks for all the help man, I think I'm going to go with the rig you showed me. So a GTX 460 1GB will do the trick in running most games? huh I had no idea a single video card could handle most of today's games. I thought I would need dual cards.

 

[Hazaro]

Hey Hazaro thanks for all the help man, I think I'm going to go with the rig you showed me. So a GTX 460 1GB will do the trick in running most games? huh I had no idea a single video card could handle most of today's games. I thought I would need dual cards.

Absolutely.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22346915&postcount=51

You can read any number of reviews and see if the results aren't satisfactory for you.
60FPS + 4xAA + 1920x1080 in many many games sounds pretty darn good to me.

 

[Toki767]

Is a 600W PSU enough to run a GTX 460?

 

[shigsy]

Just about to hit order on this lot and noticed the memory is a single 4GB module. Is this ok or do I need to go for 2x 2GB? Any difference at all?

Thanks guys.

 

[Hazaro]

Is a 600W PSU enough to run a GTX 460?

If its a good brand.

Just about to hit order on this lot and noticed the memory is a single 4GB module. Is this ok or do I need to go for 2x 2GB? Any difference at all?

Thanks guys.

You want 2x2GB otherwise you'll have half the memory bandwidth. (That is bad)

 

[Toki767]

If its a good brand.

http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=33041&promoid=1026

That one good enough? Or should I go for a 650W to be safe?

 

[Minsc]

Isnt it kinda silly this benchmark only runs in windowed mode? seems that would drop performance, Anyhow heres my results, GTX 480 @ Stock clocks.

720P

1080p

Wow, amazing that a 5870 scores 700 more than a GTX 480.

Windowed vs Fullscreen performance stopped mattering back like 5 years ago

 

[zerodayPopbot]

http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=33041&promoid=1026

That one good enough? Or should I go for a 650W to be safe?

I'm not sure(it's why I need advice) but I don't think OCZ are as reputable as someone like Corsair, for psu's.

I was thinking getting something like this:

i5 750
CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3
G.Skill 4GB (2x 2GB), PC3-12800
Corsair HX-650
460GTX 1GB
Intel X25-M 80GB
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB

Is this okay?

 

[Fitz]

Wow, amazing that a 5870 scores 700 more than a GTX 480.

Weird benchmark is weird, I got over 4000 on the 1080 bench with a 5770 and a i5-750.

 

[Minsc]

Weird benchmark is weird, I got over 4000 on the 1080 bench with a 5770 and a i5-750.

Damn, now that's humiliating for a GTX 480 owner! Guess it is a crap benchmark after all.

What's really crazy is his 720p score isn't even good enough for extreme performance (8000+ score needed for that, see very bottom)! A i7 & GTX 480, and it can't even run it at the lower 720p perfectly according to the benches!

 

[Fitz]

Oh wow, I had never seen those ratings. 8000 is pretty damn high.

I should point out that my i5 is at 4GHz, so the bench probably just scales well with CPU clock speed I imagine.

 

[Mystery]

Damn, now that's humiliating for a GTX 480 owner! Guess it is a crap benchmark after all.

What's really crazy is his 720p score isn't even good enough for extreme performance (8000+ score needed for that, see very bottom)! A i7 & GTX 480, and it can't even run it at the lower 720p perfectly according to the benches!

It's in windowed mode, so SLI gives no performance boost.

 

[Minsc]

Oh wow, I had never seen those ratings. 8000 is pretty damn high.

I should point out that my i5 is at 4GHz, so the bench probably just scales well with CPU clock speed I imagine.

Also weird is it says his i7 only has 4 CPUs, while mine has 8. Not sure how that could be, unless he disabled hyper-threading in the BIOS or something.

[]http://i50.tinypic.com/1pcldl.png[/IMG]

It's in windowed mode, so SLI gives no performance boost.

So you have a 33% higher score, but you both have the same gpu (since your 2nd GPU is not doing anything according to you). 8 CPU advantage doesn't amount to nearly as much as I'd think it should.

Edit: Forgot that was a 720p 8000 score (and I'm bad at math this morning) and not a 1080p one. Impressed you got a 8000+, I really didn't think the bench could make it that high. I really don't know how to read of this benchmark, other than I don't like it, so I was trying to enjoy picking on it.

 

[OatmealMu]

Hmm. Just noticed this combo deal on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.435813

Here's what I was considering buying beforehand:

I'll be adding a heatsink & fan to the cpu regardless of my decision. Thoughts? Go with what I had before or choose Newegg's combo deal?

 

[JRW]

Wow, amazing that a 5870 scores 700 more than a GTX 480.

What is your CPU speed at tho? This benchmark isnt accurate at showing actual speed, mine is at 3.36ghz with hyper threading disabled (for now at least, going to order an H50 cooler soon to replace stock intel heatsink).

 

[demosthenes]

I was running it on high res. I don't know why the score was so low though, I'm kind of bummed. We'll see what happens after I get the gigabyte card and overclock it.

Seriously, I am not an overclocker and with the hyper 212 plus on air I'm running load temps under 65c at 3.6ghz. I don't think I'm going to go much higher because I just don't know if the gains will be worth it, but you easily be able to go to 3.2 or a little higher with no threat.

With the stock cooler you think?

I'm thinking of just grabbing the hyper 212+ for $20 from microcenter just to have a better cooler and using the stock cooler until it comes. Hell XIV doesn't come for another 2 months anyway :lol

 

[alanias]

Hmm. Just noticed this combo deal on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.435813

Here's what I was considering buying beforehand:

I'll be adding a heatsink & fan to the cpu regardless of my decision. Thoughts? Go with what I had before or choose Newegg's combo deal?

I think you are better off with the original. The combo doesn't save you too much, an the AM3 upgrade path gives you better future flexibility. Not to mention it's quad core, so that's a bit more future-proof itself.

 

[Hazaro]

*Please stop looking at the FFXIV benchmark. I've run at least 6 comparisons against a similar system, turned off and on cores, lowered GPU clocks, disabled cores, and changed resolutions.

IT'S ALL GARBAGE.

http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=33041&promoid=1026

That one good enough? Or should I go for a 650W to be safe?

That's fine. Pretty darn cheap too.

I'm not sure(it's why I need advice) but I don't think OCZ are as reputable as someone like Corsair, for psu's.

I was thinking getting something like this:

i5 750
CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3
G.Skill 4GB (2x 2GB), PC3-12800
Corsair HX-650
460GTX 1GB
Intel X25-M 80GB
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB

Looks excellent.
As for PSUs you should check REAL reviews (jonnyguru, [H], or the other site with a PSU load tester) and go on a model by model basis. For example one of the Rosewill 500w revisions was actually a good buy. But in general Rosewill is not what you really want.

Corsair is about the only real exception since it outsources a limited range of PSU's (With 400w being the minimum) to CWT and Seasonic, two fairly good companies that are following Corsair's decision to not really skimp on anything important.
It's really easy to recommend since I know all their units are good, rated at 100,000 hours @ 50C, and have a 5 year warranty with good service.

Antec and Seasonic are also good, but don't nearly have the market presence or brand that Corsair does. They usually regulate themselves to lower wattages as well.

Hmm. Just noticed this combo deal on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.435813

Here's what I was considering buying beforehand:

http://i27.tinypic.com/73p7ax.png

I'll be adding a heatsink & fan to the cpu regardless of my decision. Thoughts? Go with what I had before or choose Newegg's combo deal?

Keep the AMD. You are stepping down to a dual core if you get that.
Nab a Cooler Master 212+ from amazon or any number of other websites. ($30)

 

[Salaadin]

My mobo has 8 internal SATA ports on it.

The top 2 are listed as GSATA2_1 and GSATA2_0 and use the GIGABYTE SATA2 chip supporting up to 2 3GB/s devices
The other 6 are just SATA2_1, SATA2_0, SATA2_3, SATA2_2, SATA2_5, and SATA2_4 and use Intel P55 Express Chipset supporting up to 6 SATA 3Gb/s devices.

I have a few questions about this now.

First off, does it matter which ones I put my SSD and HDD into?

Secondly, I have an Internal SATA DVD Burner by Samsung. I read up some things about DVD Burners and AHCI and a lot of people are saying that they experienced burn failures on AHCI mode. Is there a way to have my DVD Burner on IDE while the SSD and HDDs on AHCI?

Im looking at my mobo manual online and Im seeing separate settings in the BIOS for the above Gigabyte SATA 2 ports and the Intel P55 Express SATA ports. It looks like its possible to set the Gigabyte ports to IDE while setting the Intel ports to AHCI. That way Ill have 2 IDE and 6 AHCI. Is this ok to do? If so, thatll solve my above problem since I can just plug the DVD burner into one of the Gigabyte ports and put the HDD and SSD on the Intel ones.

I think I have everything noted mentally on how Im supposed to set this. My only question (so far lol) lies with this DVD Burner.

 

[demosthenes]

You literally just stick them on, couldn't be simpler.

I hate to be a noob, but I've never done it, would you just put them where I cricled?

http://tinypic.com/r/25urxh4/3

 

[Haint]

Hey guys, anyone know when the Core i5 760 is coming out? I've seen comments like "any day now" scattered around? Any truth to that?

 

[kagete]

I hate to be a noob, but I've never done it, would you just put them where I cricled?

http://tinypic.com/r/25urxh4/3

Yup, exactly where I put tehm

 

[demosthenes]

Yup, exactly where I put tehm

How did you stick them. The Newegg reviews for them say they don't stick well at all and fall off a lot. Did you use another substance to stick them?

 

[kagete]

How did you stick them. The Newegg reviews for them say they don't stick well at all and fall off a lot. Did you use another substance to stick them?

just peeled off the tape cover and stuck them on. Nothing special. Mine haven't fallen off in the 3 or 4 times i've flipped my PC over to fiddle with my cables since i've put the heatsinks in

 

[demosthenes]

just peeled off the tape cover and stuck them on. Nothing special. Mine haven't fallen off in the 3 or 4 times i've flipped my PC over to fiddle with my cables since i've put the heatsinks in

Hmm, alright. Just wondering, if they were to slip and fall, would they fall into the fan due ot the domed shape cover? Based on your view/look/installation of them?

 

[Monroeski]

Slowly, slowly getting closer. How does this build look?

I do have a Microcenter nearby, so I could get the processor there for a bit cheaper. May also switch to this RAM, as it looks more or less the same to me, is a bit cheaper, and is red. Also thinking about adding a 212+ cooler.

Any recommendations? Anything obviously incompatible that I'm missing? Should I wait a little while on the 5870 in case the prices go down with the new NVidia releases?

For that matter, I may come to my senses at some point and get a GTX 460 or something like that instead of the 5870. I can't believe I'm considering a freaking $400 video card. :lol

::edit::
And yes, I know there's two copies of Windows there. Have another computer I want to install Windows 7 on.

 

[leroidys]

Hey pc gaf... so I bit the bullet and started building a computer. Here's what I have so far. If anybody could confirm that all the parts are compatible, and anywhere I could cut costs, that would be great.

I still need a case though. I would like to get whatever is cheapest that doesn't look like ubergamer dogshit.

I also need an OS. I've read that I could get one of those discounted upgrades of 7 with my student discount, and still do a clean install (just using my xp serial from my old dell or something like that) Does anybody know anything about this?

 

[filipe]

If you're not looking for anything too special, grab an Antec Three Hundred Gaming Case. It's simple, affordable and looks nice up close. It's a Mid, but it's pretty roomy inside.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/prod...item_id=018460&sid=335f24qase5hnhgslcu5ecj507

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...re=antec_three_hundred-_-11-129-042-_-Product

I went in with the intention of buying a Cooler Master at about $100 bucks. The guy told me about this one because I kept asking about room for fans, and after a long comparison of the two, walked out with the Antec.

Rear, Side, Top and Double Front fans for an awesome hover craft, though I only have the 2 defaults (Top and Rear) and a front fan installed.

Noise wise, it's decent.

EDIT: Just reviewed your build, and I actually just built one so all the knowledge is fresh in my head. Spend a few extra bucks and grab a Caviar Black.

Possibly spend a few extra bucks too and grab a P55A-UD3, which comes with 2XSATA 6GB/s. Is it a 100% necessary? Nah, not really, but it'll be nice to have it when 6GB/s becomes a standard. Plus, looking at Canada Computers, it's just over $10 bucks more.

 

[Salaadin]

When I install this SSD tonight, Im also going to put a 640GB WD in there as a secondary drive. SHould I be setting the WD as a slave?

 

[filipe]

When I install this SSD tonight, Im also going to put a 640GB WD in there as a secondary drive. SHould I be setting the WD as a slave?

Depends what you want to do with it, no? If you're going to be using it for things such as Music, Movies, Documents, etc., then yes.

Which SSD did you grab?

 

[Monroeski]

I just noticed on the main page for this Gigabyte x58A-ud3r mobo, which seems pretty popular, it lists the memory standard as "DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800," but people seem to be pairing it with 1600 and 2000. How does that work? Moving down to that mobo instead of the ASUS would save me about $30, so I'm curious.

 

[Salaadin]

Depends what you want to do with it, no? If you're going to be using it for things such as Music, Movies, Documents, etc., then yes.

Which SSD did you grab?

Ok. Slave it is then. Thanks.

I grabbed the Crucial C300 64GB

 

[RocketDarkness]

I'm sure this is asked fairly often, but I didn't see anything in the OP nor the last few pages. So uh...does anyone have a good beginner's guide to overclocking? I'd like to learn the basic concepts and tools, but I don't have any desire to go hardcore with it. Just enough to squeeze a bit of extra juice out of my PC.

 

[filipe]

SSD Godness!

http://www.snotr.com/video/2615

 

[Dynamic3]

When building the pc, do I need to purchase a system builders edition of Windows or can I just use the upgrade version that I got from the MS student promotion?

 

[SapientWolf]

When building the pc, do I need to purchase a system builders edition of Windows or can I just use the upgrade version that I got from the MS student promotion?

You can use the student version but you'll have to edit a few registry files.

 

[Smash88]

Slowly, slowly getting closer. How does this build look?

http://i32.tinypic.com/jt19xz.jpg[IMG]

I do have a Microcenter nearby, so I could get the processor there for a bit cheaper. May also switch to [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225"]this RAM[/URL], as it looks more or less the same to me, is a bit cheaper, and is red. Also thinking about adding a 212+ cooler.

Any recommendations? Anything obviously incompatible that I'm missing? Should I wait a little while on the 5870 in case the prices go down with the new NVidia releases?

For that matter, I may come to my senses at some point and get a GTX 460 or something like that instead of the 5870. I can't believe I'm considering a freaking $400 video card. :lol

::edit::
And yes, I know there's two copies of Windows there. Have another computer I want to install Windows 7 on.[/QUOTE]

Word of caution the P183 has probably the weakest side panel tabs I have ever seen, so be careful when taking off and putting back on. They are easily breakable plastic tabs.

 

[thunker 9000]

I'm sure this is asked fairly often, but I didn't see anything in the OP nor the last few pages. So uh...does anyone have a good beginner's guide to overclocking? I'd like to learn the basic concepts and tools, but I don't have any desire to go hardcore with it. Just enough to squeeze a bit of extra juice out of my PC.

I was wondering the same thing. All the overclocking guides I have seen around assume you know a ton about it.

Is there a beginners guide somewhere?

 

[Dynamic3]

You can use the student version but you'll have to edit a few registry files.

Can you point me in the right direction?

 

[demosthenes]

This may be a stupid question.

But if you have a case w/ the PSU slot at the bottom, do you just invert the PSU?

 

[Askia47]

The FFXIV Benchmark cannot even run on my PC, even though it should more than be able to handle it. :lol