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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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Guys,
My PC isn't booting for some reason. I'm pretty sure my PSU, GPU and motherboard work as it powers on and the case fans and GPU fan spin however my CPU fan doesn't spin. It's a stock hyper 212+ 4 pin fan and is connected to the 4pin CPU fan header, when I press the power button it starts to spin for a fraction of a second then stops. If I plug the fan into a three pin system fan header it blows at full speed when I press the power button but then I obviously have nothing inserted into the 4 pin cpu fan header. Why do you think it isn't working?
My PC isn't booting for some reason. I'm pretty sure my PSU, GPU and motherboard work as it powers on and the case fans and GPU fan spin however my CPU fan doesn't spin. It's a stock hyper 212+ 4 pin fan and is connected to the 4pin CPU fan header, when I press the power button it starts to spin for a fraction of a second then stops. If I plug the fan into a three pin system fan header it blows at full speed when I press the power button but then I obviously have nothing inserted into the 4 pin cpu fan header. Why do you think it isn't working?
I'm likely to upgrade my monitors soon, and wanted some opinions/feedback on 3D gaming. Is it fun and/or valuable? How noticable and convincing is the effect? I'm willing to pay the premium for 120Hz monitors, but only if I have a sense of how effective it is.
Can the 3D effect be applied to anything besides games?
Last question: I'm mostly a competitive gamer. I presume the 3D effect is less than ideal for competitive gaming? Instead of real clan/competitive matches, what about pug games of TF2, for example?
Can the 3D effect be applied to anything besides games?
Last question: I'm mostly a competitive gamer. I presume the 3D effect is less than ideal for competitive gaming? Instead of real clan/competitive matches, what about pug games of TF2, for example?
SuperAwesome
Member
Opiate said:
I'm not up on the whole 3D thing, but I've been told 3D with TF2 prevents you from differentiating team colors.
The_Inquisitor
Member
SuperAwesome said:
Dude perpetual FFA? Sounds awesome!
I just built a new PC but I know pretty much nothing about OCing ram. The ram is Kingston ValueRam DDR3 1333 and the default timings are 9 9 9 24. I set it to 8 8 8 24 per the recommendation of someone, but I'm not really sure if there's any benefit to that...
I know what I'm doing with the rest, but never really looked into OCing ram in the past. Any tips?
For the rest of the system it's:
GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU - AMD 955 Quad Core Black Edition 3.2 ghz (overclocked to 4 ghz)
MSI N250GTS TwinFrozr 1G OC GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (overclocked already)
Hard drives - Primary is a Kingston 64 GB SSD
Secondary - 1 TB Sata II internal, 1 TB USB external, 500 GB USB external
Antec Neo Power 500 500W ATX12V
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic CPU Cooler
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Monitor - Acer 23.6" monitor (2nd one coming with this pay check)
I know what I'm doing with the rest, but never really looked into OCing ram in the past. Any tips?
For the rest of the system it's:
GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU - AMD 955 Quad Core Black Edition 3.2 ghz (overclocked to 4 ghz)
MSI N250GTS TwinFrozr 1G OC GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (overclocked already)
Hard drives - Primary is a Kingston 64 GB SSD
Secondary - 1 TB Sata II internal, 1 TB USB external, 500 GB USB external
Antec Neo Power 500 500W ATX12V
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic CPU Cooler
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Monitor - Acer 23.6" monitor (2nd one coming with this pay check)
BlackNMild2k1
Member
I just built a computer about 2 months ago and I needed a complete system for ~$800 including the monitor and dual monitor support.
I'm curious how you guys think I did;
This is what I bought:
Gigabyte Socket ATX Motherboard GA-770TA-UD3 - $101
AMD Athlon II X4 630 95W AM3 2MB 2800MHz Retail - $97
Seagate 1TB HDD - $50 (after $30 rebate)
Ultra 500W PSU - $40 (after $20 instant rebate)
Ultra LSP550 - $50
Cooler Master Mid Tower Case - $38
LG W2353V-PF 23" Monitor - $175
Logitech Wireless Kb/M - $35
OCZ DDR3 PC3 10666 1333 Mhz RAM (2x4GB) - $138
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer - $28
ATi Radeon HD 5670 - $114
Total = $866
How did I do?
I'm curious how you guys think I did;
This is what I bought:
Gigabyte Socket ATX Motherboard GA-770TA-UD3 - $101
AMD Athlon II X4 630 95W AM3 2MB 2800MHz Retail - $97
Seagate 1TB HDD - $50 (after $30 rebate)
Ultra 500W PSU - $40 (after $20 instant rebate)
Ultra LSP550 - $50
Cooler Master Mid Tower Case - $38
LG W2353V-PF 23" Monitor - $175
Logitech Wireless Kb/M - $35
OCZ DDR3 PC3 10666 1333 Mhz RAM (2x4GB) - $138
LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer - $28
ATi Radeon HD 5670 - $114
Total = $866
How did I do?
1stStrike said:
What kind of CPU temps are you getting with that OC? I just installed my Arctic Freezer 64 onto my Phenom x4 955 and am getting about 58-60C after running Prime95 for about 10 minutes. Idle temps are about 34-37C. I was hoping to have lower load temps for some OC headroom.
ChRoNiTe said:
I used the Artic Cooling MX2 thermal compound along with this and I'm running at about 32C idle temps. After running it under stress testing for an hour it was running at about 54 - 56C.
This case is part of the reason for it. The fans are awesome, the PSU is on the bottom and it's got great air flow. I also have the PC in a basement rather then on the ground floor.
Gribbix said:
Which test were you running that got it up that high?
Also, on a none gaming related note.
My little brother needs to get a notebook for his architecture design studios next semester. He already has a more than powerful enough desktop, so he won't need to do any real heavy lifting with it. His price range is 4-600ish.
I assume that he'll be using basic design type software: Adobe suite stuff, Maya, Rhinoceros, Revit.
Would something like the ASUS Eee PC 1201N work out? Or should he look towards the lower end full sized notebooks like the dell inspiron 14r.
He doesn't want to spend too muchfor power he won't need, and he wants decent mobility.
4) Prospective laptop buyers please fill this out and ask their forum as well.Boonoo said:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...ould-i-buy-form-must-read-before-posting.html
Not sure how many notebooks are ION + a non-Atom CPU.
I'd check to see how well ION runs that.
The HP mini 311 is nice, but that ASUS looks nice too. I'm sure there are many good ION+Atom netbooks out now.
zerodayPopbot
Member
mr.beers said:
I think a GTX 460 768MB.
Gerald Preston
Neo Member
Anyone here have an LED monitor. I'm in the market for a new monitor and was curious if it's worth the price. Upgrading from an ips panel so I kinda want better colors than a regular lcd tn panel. I assume the viewing angles are similar to tn?
So, I just played about a half hour of Crysis and Mass Effect 2 on this new rig. Not even a stutter with both maxed out on the graphics. I thought for sure that my graphics card would give me some slow downs on Crysis, but the game ran without a hitch.
Loving this setup so far.
Loving this setup so far.
Mutagenic said:
My family buys Dells and they're generally happy with them. Personally, I'll never own a Dell again. Not so much because of anything they've done or not done, but just because I prefer picking my own hardware. Also, I save a decent chunk of money by not buying a brand name PC as well.
liltony822
Neo Member
Anyone have any experience with Newegg's open box deals on graphics card?
I used to be that way as well, but now I just don't care enough. Plus the two year warranty is a nice touch, since I've had so many things go out in the past. What do you think about the specs though? There's too many options out there these days.1stStrike said:
liltony822 said:
I bought an ATI open box graphics card years ago and it ran at 82C under load out of the box. I returned it, bought a Geforce and it ran 20C cooler and provided more power. Haven't looked at open box or ATI since.
Mutagenic said:
My last PC was an HP and the build quality just wasn't there. The cases don't last the test of time and I was really disappointed with it. Thus, I went back to building my own.
As for the specs, it seems beefy enough. You shouldn't be disappointed with it. However, if you're going to get all of that then I highly advise you to get some SSD hard drives into a raid config. That's your biggest bottleneck right there and you'll see a significant performance gain if you go that route.
bigboss370
Member
new to PC gaming..
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DPCWPX1&s=dhs
gonna add dual crossfireX radeon 5970s and 12GB ram.
worth it?
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DPCWPX1&s=dhs
gonna add dual crossfireX radeon 5970s and 12GB ram.
worth it?
NarcissisticJay
Member
Good to go, enjoy!Mad_Ban said:These are times when you're thankful GAF is around (thanks for pointing out the mistake I made).
Since it's still in pre-production I've changed it to:
and saved £30.
Am I good to go now?
Buy a game with the monies you saved
Mutagenic said:
Go for it. Be sure to let us know how it turns out for you.
bigboss370 said:
What the hell are you going to use 12 GB of ram for? 4 GB or 8 GB max (still overkill) will serve your needs, even for heavy gaming.
Your biggest bottlenecks for gaming are the HDD, GPU and CPU. So long as those are top notch, 4 GB of DDR3 1333 or 1600 will be fine.
bigboss370
Member
1stStrike said:
thanks i don't really know these things lol. but is the price a good value for the product?
Kind of in a dilemma. I hooked up my Panasonic G10 to my computer via a DVI to HDMI connector, and anytime I tried to do something extensive (play a game), my computer would crash. I have an E8400 Wolfdale/ATi Radeon 4850 and I have the latest drivers and firmware already installed.
bigboss370 said:
Fuck ATI. Their drivers still stuck. Go with a Geforce graphics card and get some custom optimized drivers. You won't regret it.
You could probably go up to the intel 960 if you want. It'd have a bit more longevity.
The harddrive will work, but I suggest hitting up newegg and getting a 32 or 64 GB SSD and making that your primary eventually.
I'm toting the SSD hard for anyone looking for a performance system because I just built mine with a 64 GB Kingston and the performance has been unreal. It's just so god damn zippy.
ChoklitReign
Member
I don't tolerate fanboyism. Just because ATI doesn't release as many drivers as Nvidia doesn't mean their cards "suck."1stStrike said:
ChoklitReign said:
I didn't say anything about their cards. It's their drivers that have always sucked. It doesn't even have anything to do with the frequency of releases.
Sure, ATI are perfectly usable. It's not like you're going to see massive drops in performance by going ATI over Nvidia for similar cards.
However, their drivers just can't compare to Nvidia's IMO.
Spiderjericho
Member
I have a 4890, and it's my first real exposure to ATI video cards, and I have to say the experience hasn't been the best with drivers.
bigboss370
Member
isn't the ati dual 5970s the best/fastest graphics you can get on the market now?