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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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G0DLIKE said:Done, swapped with a Corsair TX-750W ATX PSU.
I was on the fence about this. Decided on an OCZ Vertex 60G 2.5" SSD.
I just ordered.
- ASUS P6X58D-E Intel X58 ATX Motherboard
- Corsair XMS 6GB (2 X 2GB) PC-12800 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
- Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD103SJ 32MB 1TB SATA Hard Drive
- OCZ Vertex 60G 2.5" SSD
- Benq 24x Speed Plus DVD Writer
- Fractal Design Define R2 Computer Case Black
- Corsair TX-750W ATX PSU
I'll look into some cooling options for the case
Thanks for the help Hazaro and TheExodu5! I appreciate it.
Vertex or Vertex 2? If you did get the Vertex, make sure it's cheaper than the Vertex 2, since it's a decent amount slower (though still ridiculously fast compared to an HDD).
BTW, I see no CPU in there. I assume you got the 950?
Ok I am 100% sure the harddrive I bought from newegg is dead. Harddrive makes some noise and releases heat when it is turned on right? This harddrive is dead silent and releases no heat when my computer is turned on. Its not the cable or mobo ports. I checked. Can I buy an external harddrive and use it to install Windows and games and such?
Drkirby said:
Read your manual. There should be a physical switch on the motherboard than enables you to core unlock despite what the BIOS options are set to. Also before trying to update your BIOS do some research. Some BIOS updates are actually making unlocking less successful, some people suspect this is some influence from AMD trying to stop core unlocking.
Le-mo said:
The drive has to be attached internally through the SATA ports to be bootable. Looks like it's RMA time for the HDD.
EDIT: blah I fail
EDIT2: Actually, i might as well mention all my parts came in today. tomorrow is a day off, so i'd be spending that to build and test all my components.
Whats a better-then-decent keyboard thats good for gaming and long-term typing and somewhat quiet? I trust actual opinions rather than advertisments.
Also, what is a good cover mesh material to get for my HAF 922 case? Please help, because i have 3 cats in a small cramped apt :lol
EDIT2: Actually, i might as well mention all my parts came in today. tomorrow is a day off, so i'd be spending that to build and test all my components.
Whats a better-then-decent keyboard thats good for gaming and long-term typing and somewhat quiet? I trust actual opinions rather than advertisments.
Also, what is a good cover mesh material to get for my HAF 922 case? Please help, because i have 3 cats in a small cramped apt :lol
Oh god this cheap USB Wifi dongle is horable, it seems to be a Chinese Knock off of a Realtek dongle. I am going to see if a driver update fixes it, but I think I just need a better one. Suggestions for something cheap?
Edit: One other question, at 1920x1200, is there a reason I should use HDMI over VGA?
Edit: One other question, at 1920x1200, is there a reason I should use HDMI over VGA?
Mr Nightman
Banned
Just applied for my gtx 460 rebate from asus, but accidently clicked a link, and its gone, how the hell do I get access to the stupid form I have to print and mail?
http://asus.4myrebate.com/Claim/SearchOffer/?CategoryID=48Mr Nightman said:
Mr Nightman
Banned
I click accept terms, and continue and it just loops back to itselfHazaro said:
Drkirby said:
1) There's a nice Asus PCI-E wireless n card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&cm_re=asus_wireless_n-_-33-320-048-_-Product
2) Why not? Digital vs analog. No signal degradation...less noise...no need for monitor to scale the analog signal.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Arsenic said:
I would like to know this as well.
opticalmace
Member
VGA is analog. DVI and HDMI are digital. Use them if you can. (HDMI also passes audio, whereas DVI doesn't--otherwise they are identical AFAIK).Drkirby said:
Bob Coffee
Member
All you have to do to get the image from a pc to fill the whole screen is adjust the over scan settings with hdmi and or run the image in the panels native resolution. not sure how nvidia cards handle it, but if i run in anything below 1080p on my hdtv through hdmi, i have to adjust overscan to fill the pannel with the image.
twdnewh_k
Member
How good are plasmas with a PC connected ?
I currently have a 720p plasma and thinking of an upgrade. I'd prefer to go plasma again, but I'll be doing a lot of pc gaming on it and would like to know how they fare when compared to to LEDs .
I wont be using the tv as a full time monitor, just gaming.
Thnx
I currently have a 720p plasma and thinking of an upgrade. I'd prefer to go plasma again, but I'll be doing a lot of pc gaming on it and would like to know how they fare when compared to to LEDs .
I wont be using the tv as a full time monitor, just gaming.
Thnx
dragonlife
Member
I would like to thank this thread for pushing me in the right direction in life, for I am now part of PC gaming and I love it 
It took me about six months to gather all the money (took a couple shortcuts...), but I'm finally here.
I finished building it today and while there were some setbacks (didn't expect it to be a smooth process), I can honestly say I'm proud of building my own PC--especially since I'm still pretty new to everything :lol
I spent about 4 hours playing L4D2 and the difference between it and the 360 version is just...wow. Even on my 5-year-old 1024 x 768 monitor it looked incredible (I can't wait to upgrade my monitor now). All my settings were on High and I even enabled anti-aliasing and noticed the difference.
My FPS was a solid 60-61 during the heaviest of segments. Sometimes it'd be 100 or over (over 200 in the beginning of chapters) and I'd honestly feel tripped out because everything looked and flowed so smoothly. I was constantly blown away.
This is what I upgraded from, folks:
Obviously the game was an unplayable mess (1 FPS), but my curiosity and longing (and ignorance) made me curious as to how it would look. (I did use my sister's laptop once but I'd get 15 FPS at best in L4D and 5 FPS in L4D2 even with everything turned down/disabled :lol)
It took me about six months to gather all the money (took a couple shortcuts...), but I'm finally here. I finished building it today and while there were some setbacks (didn't expect it to be a smooth process), I can honestly say I'm proud of building my own PC--especially since I'm still pretty new to everything :lol
I spent about 4 hours playing L4D2 and the difference between it and the 360 version is just...wow. Even on my 5-year-old 1024 x 768 monitor it looked incredible (I can't wait to upgrade my monitor now). All my settings were on High and I even enabled anti-aliasing and noticed the difference.
My FPS was a solid 60-61 during the heaviest of segments. Sometimes it'd be 100 or over (over 200 in the beginning of chapters) and I'd honestly feel tripped out because everything looked and flowed so smoothly. I was constantly blown away.
This is what I upgraded from, folks:
Obviously the game was an unplayable mess (1 FPS), but my curiosity and longing (and ignorance) made me curious as to how it would look. (I did use my sister's laptop once but I'd get 15 FPS at best in L4D and 5 FPS in L4D2 even with everything turned down/disabled :lol)
dragonlife29 said:I would like to thank this thread for pushing me in the right direction in life, for I am now part of PC gaming and I love it
I finished building it today and while there were some setbacks (didn't expect it to be a smooth process), I can honestly say I'm proud of building my own PC--especially since I'm still pretty new to everything :lol
I spent about 4 hours playing L4D2 and the difference between it and the 360 version is just...wow. Even on my 5-year-old 1024 x 768 monitor it looked incredible (I can't wait to upgrade my monitor now). All my settings were on High and I even enabled anti-aliasing and noticed the difference.
My FPS was a solid 60-61 during the heaviest of segments. Sometimes it'd be 100 or over (over 200 in the beginning of chapters) and I'd honestly feel tripped out because everything looked and flowed so smoothly. I was constantly blown away.
This is what I upgraded from, folks:
Obviously the game was an unplayable mess (1 FPS), but my curiosity and longing (and ignorance) made me curious as to how it would look. (I did use my sister's laptop once but I'd get 15 FPS at best in L4D and 5 FPS in L4D2 even with everything turned down/disabled :lol)
Looks like some trippy artistic wii game
I know this may seem like sacrilege, but me being a recent PC convert, this thing looks incredibly cool: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826793001
Does anyone here have any experience with this controller?
Does anyone here have any experience with this controller?
Felix Lighter
Member
Veal said:
Without proper dual analog sticks, I don't think it would work for the games I would want to play with a controller. I don't think the thumb track ball would work as a substitute either but, hey, I never used the thing, so I could be completely off base.
TouchMyBox
Member
caliblue15 said:
Because I'm hardcore like that.
Shambles said:
Well, I've done it. I pulled the trigger. Console guy has taken the PC plunge. After only having a meager laptop for many years, I decided to build myself a combo HTPC/Gaming rig and submitted my order to Newegg. My parts are expected to be here Tuesday. Sooooo excited.
Here's a rundown of what I got:
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel BOXDH55TC LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous @40°C,80 PLUS Certified
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
And it's all going to go inside this case.
Here's a rundown of what I got:
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel BOXDH55TC LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support
Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous @40°C,80 PLUS Certified
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
And it's all going to go inside this case.
twdnewh_k said:
They're good for gaming, but the lack of sharpness kind of hurts their ability for being used as a PC monitor outside of gaming. Text and desktop components definitely look a little 'off'. Also, if you're too close to it, you'll notice dithering (but that's only if you sit really close). That being said, their gaming performance should be great. The Panasonics should do really well for PC gaming since they have low input lag. Input lag is probably the most important factor when choosing a TV to use with your PC, since it's so easy to feel input lag through the mouse.
If you do go LCD, I'd recommend just a CCFL model as opposed to an LED model.
Schmattakopf
Member
So I need a new PC.
a) My lurker friend
directed me to this thread, and we put this Newegg list together. $541 + shipping, after MIR and the combo on the mobo/CPU. Small HDD because I already have a big one for storage, although maybe I should consider a small SSD instead?
b) I don't know how relevant this is but what I want, more than an expensive machine that can play Crysis on max settings, is something that's highly upgradeable.
c) How much of a difference does faster RAM or CFX/SLI make?
d) Are these still relevant? Hazaro's last guide and the TechReport builds from 1 Nov.
a) My lurker friend
who reads GAF more than I do
b) I don't know how relevant this is but what I want, more than an expensive machine that can play Crysis on max settings, is something that's highly upgradeable.
c) How much of a difference does faster RAM or CFX/SLI make?
d) Are these still relevant? Hazaro's last guide and the TechReport builds from 1 Nov.
Dark Octave
Banned
Very cool stuff here. I'm about to go PC as well thanks to Gaf.
It would be very helpful if as many people as possible posted prices next to each item they list. My GF and I came to the conclusion that $1500 to $2000 would be the price for a decent setup $1000 of that is graphics cards, she wants two. I can't remember the parts names but I'd like to see some alternative setups price per part. My thinking is that if it can run Crysis maxed at 60fps then I couldn't care less about what is in it. And realistically I would like to spend $500 to $700 instead of $1500 to $2000. Is this possible for what I want?
It would be very helpful if as many people as possible posted prices next to each item they list. My GF and I came to the conclusion that $1500 to $2000 would be the price for a decent setup $1000 of that is graphics cards, she wants two. I can't remember the parts names but I'd like to see some alternative setups price per part. My thinking is that if it can run Crysis maxed at 60fps then I couldn't care less about what is in it. And realistically I would like to spend $500 to $700 instead of $1500 to $2000. Is this possible for what I want?
Schmattakopf said:
Everything looks spot on, though I'd bump the PSU to a Corsair 650TX just to give you a little more breathing room if ever you wanted to put a higher powered GPU in there.
I haven't seen that case before...looks like a really nice case for the money. Should allow for very easy upgrading and decent cable management.
Faster RAM doesn't make much of a difference.
edit: since you're getting an aftermarket cooler, I'd suggest getting the AMD Phenom 940 instead of the Athlon 640.
opticalmace
Member
What resolution? People always forget to mention this, and it's very important.Dark Octave said:
My Samsung plasma gets lots of image retention with a PC connected. If you're using it mainly for gaming, it should be alright. Leaving it at the desktop for any length of time may cause icons and the task bar to stay on screen for a while.twdnewh_k said:
I guess it's no worse than static HUDs, though. And honestly, my TV is starting to retain images from just about anything that stays on there for longer than three seconds.
I'd still recommend plasma for gaming.
Dark Octave
Banned
1080p probably. This is what I'm confused about. There are higher resolutions than that I'm sure. We'd be playing on a 1080p 60".opticalmace said:
Thanks Davedough. That looks like a great setup and price.
Schmattakopf
Member
Thanks for the response. What do you think about an SSD and did you mean the Phenom 945?TheExodu5 said:
Dark Octave said:
Scale things down for your first PC until you know exactly what kind of experience you want. If you want to go the route of extreme upgradability, I'd suggest spending just a little bit more on the case and PSU. I'd try to put something together than can easily support a dual high end GPU setup like you want, but only start off with a single GPU.
I'll throw out some suggestions:
Core i5 760 - $200
Motherboard - $130
Cooler Master HAF X - $200
Corsair HX 850 - $170
GTX 580 - $500
1TB HDD - $70
DVD-RW - $20
Windows - $100
That comes to about $1400. If you really want to ensure you can run dual GTX 580, then you might want to bump the Corsair 850 to a 1000, though that's around $50 more. The 850 should be able to run it fine, but having a bigger PSU means it won't be running as hard, and as hot.
A Cooler Master HAF 922 would do as well, but with dual high end GPUs, the bigger HAF X would be nice, especially since it will allow such good air flow and even easier cable management.
edit: I see you want to spend 500-700 instead. There are some decent builds on this page if you want to go that route.
Im sort of in a dilemma here.
I putting together my new PC as im typing this and I seemed to have overlooked into getting a bracket\tray for my SSD drive. Problem is the case i bought is the HAF 922 which uses the slide-in bay for HDDs. Quick read shows brackets are not ideal for these kind of bays. Yet, looking the the PC Mag guide to building a PC, a tray came with the builder's SSd drive, which goes in these slide-in bay perfectly.
Where can i get one of these trays? Newegg is confusing me with all these types.
QUick search: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ESTMATCH&Description=ssd+mounting+kit&x=0&y=0
I putting together my new PC as im typing this and I seemed to have overlooked into getting a bracket\tray for my SSD drive. Problem is the case i bought is the HAF 922 which uses the slide-in bay for HDDs. Quick read shows brackets are not ideal for these kind of bays. Yet, looking the the PC Mag guide to building a PC, a tray came with the builder's SSd drive, which goes in these slide-in bay perfectly.
Where can i get one of these trays? Newegg is confusing me with all these types.
QUick search: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ESTMATCH&Description=ssd+mounting+kit&x=0&y=0
OEM Phenom II 940 is a better choice and costs less than the Athlon:Schmattakopf said:
$95.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103644&cm_re=940-_-19-103-644-_-Product
It doesn't come with a cooler. but since you are already buying a HSF, you're set to overclock it.
Felix Lighter
Member
At $800-900, you can build a machine that will maintain 60 fps at 1920x1080 for about 95% of PC games out now. The jump in price to get that kind of performance out of Crysis is a little crazy. I should be the last to talk though, I certainly could have made a lot better value decisions with my PC. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
Dark Octave
Banned
Thanks for the info. That's a lot to chew on. So much that I didn't think to consider before. Very helpful and great thread.TheExodu5 said:
Schmattakopf
Member
Better CPU but is it worth going back to AM2+?·feist· said: