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[mike23]

Since this thread is about PCs and related.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Mad-Catz-Cyborg-R.A.T.-albino-Darren-Richardson,13234.html#xtor=998

Kind of want. Maybe if I hadn't bought the R.A.T. 9 recently. That and I won't buy a wired mouse ever again. The wires always kink and ruin the mouse.

Also, why is the thumb pad grey? Looks kinda terrible.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I was debating whether to keep my 6850 or upgrade to a 570/580. Opted to crossfire it for $160 more until new hotness comes out next year

 

[tehbible]

Since this thread is about PCs and related.

Looks like HL2 scanner

 

[Lazy Jones]

Which's better - 6950 2gb or GTX 570 1280MB? The 6950 is cheaper for some reason even though it has 2gb of memory.

 

[LordCanti]

Which's better - 6950 2gb or GTX 570 1280MB? The 6950 is cheaper for some reason even though it has 2gb of memory.

The 6950 is a good buy for the money, but it does lag behind the 570 in most games (offering very playable framerates though, at great settings, in most new games). If the gap is $30, I say go for the GTX 570. If it's more like $50, go for the 6950.

If you want PhysX or eyefinity, the choice is made for you (Nvidia for PhysX, AMD for Eyefinity)

 

[bluestuff]

Which's better - 6950 2gb or GTX 570 1280MB? The 6950 is cheaper for some reason even though it has 2gb of memory.

From the benchmarks I have seen the 570 GTX is better, in fact it is more comparable to the 6970 where it seems to go back in forth, depending on the benchmark/game. Personally I would spring for the 570 GTX as it seems to be the best price/performance you can get at that range for a single card.

 

[ZZMitch]

Which's better - 6950 2gb or GTX 570 1280MB? The 6950 is cheaper for some reason even though it has 2gb of memory.

The extra memory really only comes into account with very high resolution screens or multiple monitor setups.

I have the 6950 2GB, though, and I highly recommend it! It runs pretty much every thing at 60fps at 1080p

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

Does anyone still have a link to the SLI compatibility chart?

 

[LordCanti]

Does anyone still have a link to the SLI compatibility chart?

http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_ecosystem.html

 

[hauton]

Hi guys, I was wondering what I should look for in terms of CPU cooling for my current rig.

Current setup:

Motherboard: Gigabyte P55A-UD3P
CPU: Intel Core i5 750
GPU: Visiontek Radeon HD 5850
RAM: 2x G.SKILL Ripjaws 2GB DDR3-1600
PSU: XFX 650W XXX Edition
Case: Antec Three Hundred

After cleaning the insides with duster and setting everything to stock, my CPU peaks at 80°C, which is quite disconcerting. Idle temps are near low 30s, which leads me to believe the stock cooling setup is just awful. The question is, what do I need to do about it?

My guess is to gut the stock heatsink + fan, and install with aftermarket replacements with some new thermal paste. Any recommendations? Should I be concerned about space with my mini tower Antec Three Hundred and the quite large 5850 that's already sitting below?

 

[iSurvivedTheOutage]

http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_ecosystem.html

teehee.

thats not the one i was looking for. Im looking for the chart that shows how you can match 2 different cards together for SLI. Thanks tho

 

[Cptkrush]

Emergency question: I may have just formated my main hard drive in order to install windows on a different drive. The problem is, I forgot my game saves where in my documents. Is there any hope of recovering them? My google searches are coming up with nothing but shady ads for recovery software.

 

[LordCanti]

Emergency question: I may have just formated my main hard drive in order to install windows on a different drive. The problem is, I forgot my game saves where in my documents. Is there any hope of recovering them? My google searches are coming up with nothing but shady ads for recovery software.

Piriform's Recuva is your best bet. If you securely formatted it (as in, bits were overwritten with random 0's and 1's) you're screwed.

If you did a quick format, you may have hope.

 

[Cptkrush]

Piriform's Recuva is your best bet. If you securely formatted it (as in, bits were overwritten with random 0's and 1's) you're screwed.

If you did a quick format, you may have hope.

I think it was a quick format. Looking into Recuva now.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

I think it was a quick format. Looking into Recuva now.

Recurva has a pretty amazing shot to recover 100% of your stuff. Pirform is an amazing company.

 

[larvi]

I think it was a quick format. Looking into Recuva now.

Whatever you don't write any data to that drive. If you haven't done that you have a good shot.

 

[The Albatross]

Okay guys, another question for me. Because I'm stupid.

So the motherboard on my desktop died on me about 2 weeks ago. Computer was running fine, but now it doesn't post or do anything else. It turns on. Power supply seems fine, but nothing gets started. I've taken it all apart put components back in one by one, and nothing.

So, I'm considering either just buying a new computer, as this one was a few years old anyway, OR then waivering between just getting a replacement motherboard.

Problem is, this motherboard is pretty old now a days and obviously isn't sold anymore other than for like $200 or from weird vendors that I don't trust.

HEre it is:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001ULD7TY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Does anybody know of a modern mobo that might be compatible with everything from there? I really should list out my parts, right? I have an Intel Core 2 Duo, but I really don't know much more about it... I'd have to pull out the stuff I bought when I put the computer together to see.

Shot in the dark. I've got a laptop that works fine and my work computer which is pretty good, so it's not a necessity that I get a new PC now. I'm leaning towards waiting till just after Christmas and buying a new PC. I really don't play any PC games these days, but If I could I'd love to play Skyrim, Fallout 3, and NV on a new computer just to experience it.

 

[Wes]

You guys are quite clued up in here so forgive me this question. As you may have seen from the Trackmania 2 thread whenever I go to join a server my whole pc crashes.
It literally restarts. Powers off. Powers back on again and goes through the whole boot up sequence.

I had something similiar happen to me in the spring which was related to Windows Installer and .Net Framework but a format and reinstallation of all updates fixed that and I have had no issues like it since.

Until now. Like I say, everything is up to date. GFX drivers. Windows update. Temperatures are fine. Other games running fine. Something is happening when the server is loading (the loading bar gets to about 5% before the crash occurs) that's causing it. I thought temperatures as that's a good assumption but they couldn't skyrocket like that in under a second.

Could it be a memory issue? There is a new BIOS (from January - before the related previous occurances) but I can't flash it yet using EZ Flash 2 as I won't have a USB Stick until Friday/Monday.

My components:
4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3, DDR3 PC3
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, S
Asus P7P55D-E LX, P55 Express, S115
Intel i5 760, S1156, Lynnfield Quad
1GB MSI GTX 460 Cyclone, 3600MHz GD
Corsair TX Series 650W ATX2.2 SLI/Crossfire Compliant Power Supply
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[tehbible]

Something is happening when the server is loading (the loading bar gets to about 5% before the crash occurs) that's causing it.

how does it crash? BSOD? or just black screen? screen freezes? can you move your mouse once it crashes? that would help.

 

[LordCanti]

Okay guys, another question for me. Because I'm stupid.

So the motherboard on my desktop died on me about 2 weeks ago. Computer was running fine, but now it doesn't post or do anything else. It turns on. Power supply seems fine, but nothing gets started. I've taken it all apart put components back in one by one, and nothing.

So, I'm considering either just buying a new computer, as this one was a few years old anyway, OR then waivering between just getting a replacement motherboard.

Problem is, this motherboard is pretty old now a days and obviously isn't sold anymore other than for like $200 or from weird vendors that I don't trust.

HEre it is:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001ULD7TY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Does anybody know of a modern mobo that might be compatible with everything from there? I really should list out my parts, right? I have an Intel Core 2 Duo, but I really don't know much more about it... I'd have to pull out the stuff I bought when I put the computer together to see.

Shot in the dark. I've got a laptop that works fine and my work computer which is pretty good, so it's not a necessity that I get a new PC now. I'm leaning towards waiting till just after Christmas and buying a new PC. I really don't play any PC games these days, but If I could I'd love to play Skyrim, Fallout 3, and NV on a new computer just to experience it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157173

One of the only G31 boards I could find on Newegg.

If it is truly your mobo that is dead, it should be a fairly simple process to port over the CPU/RAM, and video card. You'll need new thermal paste for the cooler, and you'll need to clean the CPU off first, but it isn't a difficult process.

 

[Wes]

how does it crash? BSOD? or just black screen? screen freezes? can you move your mouse once it crashes? that would help.

Sorry, when I said my whole PC crashes I mean it literally restarts. Powers off. Powers back on again and goes through the whole boot up sequence.

 

[The Albatross]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157173

One of the only G31 boards I could find on Newegg.

If it is truly your mobo that is dead, it should be a fairly simple process to port over the CPU/RAM, and video card. You'll need new thermal paste for the cooler, and you'll need to clean the CPU off first, but it isn't a difficult process.

Many thanks man, many thanks.

If it is just the motherboard, which I've eliminated basically every other possibility, then I might actually go for this. SHouldn't have much of an issue porting things over, I put this computer together 3 years ago so it shouldn't be much of a challenge now. One question, do you think I'll have to format or reinstall Windows... how's that process work? I've only ever added hard drives, videocards, or started new, never actually put a whole new motherboard into an existing set of other hardware before?

THanks again!

 

[LordCanti]

Many thanks man, many thanks.

If it is just the motherboard, which I've eliminated basically every other possibility, then I might actually go for this. SHouldn't have much of an issue porting things over, I put this computer together 3 years ago so it shouldn't be much of a challenge now. One question, do you think I'll have to format or reinstall Windows... how's that process work? I've only ever added hard drives, videocards, or started new, never actually put a whole new motherboard into an existing set of other hardware before?

THanks again!

You would have to re-install Windows. Windows doesn't like it when you change something as major as a motherboard. There are ways to go about it while the computer is still working, but not now that it is dead.

 

[Smokey]

The new ROG MARS II picks up where previous graphics card powerhouses from ASUS ROG left off, and continues the legacy of the finest hardware for hardcore gamers. The limited-edition card is built on twin NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 580 GPUs and a mammoth 3GB of GDDR5 video memory, with a proprietary ROG design that combines extreme cooling and extensive tuning facilities that cater to the most demanding power user. It also offers colossal pixel-pushing output that is unmatched by any graphics card.

Massive dual GPU power ? 22% faster performance than reference
The super-powered ROG MARS II reaches new peaks of performance — it runs 22% faster than a reference GeForce® GTX 590 and offers tremendous potential. Its launch comes at a very opportune time for dedicated PC gamers, since it will be followed by the arrival this fall of several high-profile games that promise genuine next generation graphics with next generation hardware. The ROG MARS II has so much power it will be able to easily run all native DirectX® 11 games in resolutions higher than 1080p and detail settings at their maximum levels. Its twin GeForce® GTX 580 cores and 3GB of superfast GDDR5 video memory translate into the superlative performance that gamers are always seeking, representing a new benchmark in graphics dominance.

http://www.iewy.com/32270-asus-reve...-mars-ii-with-dual-geforce®-gtx-580-gpus.html

Holy crap. Looks to be triple slot but is truly 2 580 cores on one card? All that power and they still only put 1.5GB RAM with each core lulz

 

[LordCanti]

http://www.iewy.com/32270-asus-reve...-mars-ii-with-dual-geforce®-gtx-580-gpus.html

Holy crap. Looks to be triple slot but is truly 2 580 cores on one card? All that power and they still only put 1.5GB RAM with each core lulz

I thought that's what a GTX 590 was; Two GTX 580's, with slightly slower clock speeds.

 

[Smokey]

I thought that's what a GTX 590 was; Two GTX 580's, with slightly slower clock speeds.

It does. Reading it again I may have interpreted the statement I have in bold in the wrong way. It's probably using those same cores just overclocked with their DCII system which gives it that 20% increase.

Card is probably gonna run at least 1G.

 

[RaoulDuke]

looking to get a new hard drive, but not sure about spending the money for an ssd.

Any thoughts on these seagate momentus xt hybrid drives? seems faster than a normal drive and you can get a 500 gb one for less than $100? are there faster drives out there for under $100?

 

[catabarez]

Hey guys I need help with a PC I built. So I playing The Witcher 2 and during a cut scene my computer just shuts off and then reboots. Shortly after it just shuts off completely. When I try to turn it on all that happens is some of the LEDs light up and the fans spin for a quick second then it shuts off again. What can I do to fix this?

 

[·feist·]

GTX 580 vs GTX 590 vs Asus Mars II

Surprised it's taken Asus this many months to finally release the finished card.

looking to get a new hard drive, but not sure about spending the money for an ssd.

Any thoughts on these seagate momentus xt hybrid drives? seems faster than a normal drive and you can get a 500 gb one for less than $100? are there faster drives out there for under $100?

IIRC, it's still the only mass market hybrid drive of that type on sale. You could try a 10,000rpm HDD, or make your own hybrid.

Ultimately, solutions like that Seagate are easily topped by combining a $100 (or lower) SSD, with a $40 500GB, or $60 1TB HDD. Unless you're limited in physical space (laptop, SFF build), that would be a better choice.

Hey guys I need help with a PC I built. So I playing The Witcher 2 and during a cut scene my computer just shuts off and then reboots. Shortly after it just shuts off completely. When I try to turn it on all that happens is some of the LEDs light up and the fans spin for a quick second then it shuts off again. What can I do to fix this?

Could potentially be GPU, or PSU. Wipe your card drivers, and do a fresh install. If you're getting BSODs, review the error code. Otherwise, take a look at your event log for errors.

 

[·feist·]

Intel to cut prices of Sandy Bridge desktop CPUs in Q3 2011

This fall, Intel plans to refresh desktop mid-class and budget families with seven new models. The new processors are Core i5-2320, Core i3-2130, i3-2125 and i3-2120T, and Pentium G860, G630 and G630T. Details of these CPUs, as well as prices for some of them, were known for months. In a related move, Intel is going to drop prices on selected Sandy Bridge SKUs.

The first round of price drops will be in September, and it will affect all mid- and low-power Core i7 and Core i5 CPUs. Core i7-2600S will have its price cut by $12, from $306 to $294. Prices of Core i5s will be reduced by $11 at most. Core i5-2390T and i5-2400S will cost $184, Core i5-2405S - $201, and the prices of Core i5-2500S and i5-2500T will be reduced to $205.

The second round of price cuts will follow in October. This time Intel will slash prices on several Core i3 and Pentium microprocessors. The price of Core i3-2120 will be lowered from $138, which is expected launch price of Core i3-2130 CPU in September, to $117. Pentium G850 will cost $75, and Pentium G630 will be priced down to $64. After the cuts, the Core i3-2120 will have the same price as the i3-2100, and the Pentium G850 and G630 will be priced identical to G840 and G620 CPUs respectively.

The summary of upcoming price changes is provided in the table below:

Compare those to expected pricing for the initial LGA 2011 parts:

$294 - Core i7-3820 4c/8t 3.6GHz 3.9GHz turbo 10MB L3 130w
$583 - Core i7-3930K 6c/12t 3.2GHz 3.8GHz turbo 12MB L3 130w
$999 - Core i7-3960X 6c/12t 3.3GHz 3.9GHz turbo 15MB L3 130w


Intel Desktop Board: Summary Roadmap
http://www.donanimhaber.com/anakart...islemcileri-icin-Z77-cipsetini-hazirliyor.htm

Intel Z68 Chipset, Intel X79 Chipset, Intel Z77 Chipset, Intel Z75 Chipset, Intel H77 Chipset
Intel Q77 Chipset, Intel Q75 Chipset, Intel B75 Chipset


Sandy Bridge-E LGA 2011 & Ivy Bridge LGA 1155 - Enthusiast Roadmap
i7 990X vs i7 3960X Sandy Bridge-E
Sandy Bridge-E LGA 2011 & Ivy Bridge LGA 1155 - Roadmap Performance WW29
2.5GHz 8c/16t LGA 2011 ES

2c/4t Ivy Bridge vs 8c/16t Sandy Bridge-E size comparison

Another 2.5GHz 8c/16t LGA 2011 ES. This time from JCornell. Almost a year after he was one of the first to leak anything on LGA 2011.

 

[catabarez]

Could potentially be GPU, or PSU. Wipe your card drivers, and do a fresh install. If you're getting BSODs, review the error code. Otherwise, take a look at your event log for errors.

I think it might be the PSU but I'm not entirely sure. The computer powers on for a split second and it fails to boot up at all. Would that be a PSU issue?

Edit: I was just able to jumpstart my PSU so that's not it.

 

[Wolf Akela]

Awesome, I'll still make it for the price cuts.

 

[MedIC86]

Sorry, when I said my whole PC crashes I mean it literally restarts. Powers off. Powers back on again and goes through the whole boot up sequence.

Usually this is because of a setting in Windows, It automaticly reboots after a BSOD or another kind of error. This can happen because of a few things.

- If you say its only in TM2 it can be a game related bug/error and you have to wait for it to be fixed.

- It could be a bad sector in your memory, altho this seems strange because you say you dont have problems in other games. But you can always try memtest (http://www.memtest.org/) to be sure.

- Put off the automatic reboot setting, and see if you get a BSOD and google the error code.

 

[Corky]

Card is probably gonna run at least 1G.

Out here the msrp seem to be $2000, which is incidentally pretty much the cost of my entire pc excluding monitor and some other small things.

Quite the premium...

 

[Dries]

So here's a system I'm interested in, but I wouldn't mind some advice on some parts:

SWW Sandy Bridge
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA Z68X-UD3H-B3
Processor: Quad Core Intel Core i5 2500K (3.3GHz) OR Intel Core i7 2600K (3.4GHz), for $80 I can go for the i7, so...?
RAM: 8 GB
Graphics card: ATI 6950 OR ATI 6970 OR GTX 560 OR GTX 580
Hard Drive: 1 TB

Requirements:
I want to play (vanilla) Crysis with maximum everything and The Witcher 2 as high as possible. All while maintaining a good framerate of course. Also I want it to be suitable for games like Deus Ex 3, Skyrim, and future games.

I'm still undecided on the bolded things. So will this system do the trick?

 

[thuway]

Any rumor on performance boosts from AMD 7000 series or Kepler cards? I really want something delicious .

 

[BattleMonkey]

So getting sick of issues with my ATI 5850 and want to upgrade. I can't find into on my power supply but do know it's 750w, but not sure what pin connectors it has. Was thinking of getting a GTX 580 but it needs a 6 and 8 pin connector while the 5850 used two 6 pins. Should a 750w normally have the pins I would need or will I have to dig through it and look since I can find no documentation of power supply details for this thing anywhere?

 

[Drazgul]

I'm still undecided on the bolded things. So will this system do the trick?

Get the 2500k, there's practically no difference between it and 2600k when it comes to gaming. As for the GPU... what resolution will you play on? It used to be that 6950's could be flashed into 6970's, but it's not certain anymore with recent models - certainly warrants some google research if you're going with AMD, it could save you some money. 580's are still too expensive if you ask me - GTX 570 might be a good buy.

 

[chaosblade]

So here's a system I'm interested in, but I wouldn't mind some advice on some parts:

SWW Sandy Bridge
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA Z68X-UD3H-B3
Processor: Quad Core Intel Core i5 2500K (3.3GHz) OR Intel Core i7 2600K (3.4GHz), for $80 I can go for the i7, so...?
RAM: 8 GB
Graphics card: ATI 6950 OR ATI 6970 OR GTX 560 OR GTX 580
Hard Drive: 1 TB

Requirements:
I want to play (vanilla) Crysis with maximum everything and The Witcher 2 as high as possible. All while maintaining a good framerate of course. Also I want it to be suitable for games like Deus Ex 3, Skyrim, and future games.

I'm still undecided on the bolded things. So will this system do the trick?

2600k doesn't bring any benefits for gaming, so don't spend the extra money on it.

As for the GPU, if you can afford the 580 then go for it. 6970 would be the next best bet. 6950 and 560 Ti are a toss up. Standard 560 isn't worth getting.

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

Any rumor on performance boosts from AMD 7000 series or Kepler cards? I really want something delicious .

Rumor is September AMD will be launching the 7000 series alongside with their long delayed Bulldozer CPU.

Don't even worry about Nvidia, they are gonna be 6 months late with Kepler.

 

[Dries]

2600k doesn't bring any benefits for gaming, so don't spend the extra money on it.

As for the GPU, if you can afford the 580 then go for it. 6970 would be the next best bet. 6950 and 560 Ti are a toss up. Standard 560 isn't worth getting.

Get the 2500k, there's practically no difference between it and 2600k when it comes to gaming. As for the GPU... what resolution will you play on? It used to be that 6950's could be flashed into 6970's, but it's not certain anymore with recent models - certainly warrants some google research if you're going with AMD, it could save you some money. 580's are still too expensive if you ask me - GTX 570 might be a good buy.

So then the processor is decided. Thanks, guys.

I'll be sporting a 1920 x 1080 resolution. Yeah, I know, the 580 kinda breaks my budget. So choosing between the ATI 6970 and GTX 570, is there a big difference?

 

[Chinner]

update gaf:

just moved my 212 plus so its facing the fan. feels good man.

 

[Corky]

update gaf:

just moved my 212 plus so its facing the fan. feels good man.

pics of it didn't happen.

 

[chaosblade]

So then the processor is decided. Thanks, guys.

I'll be sporting a 1920 x 1080 resolution. Yeah, I know, the 580 kinda breaks my budget. So choosing between the ATI 6970 and GTX 570, is there a big difference?

570 has an edge in most games. Both are solid cards though. Not sure how big the average difference is, but they are probably fairly close.


6950 flashing is probably not something you want to delve into. For one it's not guaranteed (although the chances do seem good), and it only works on certain GPU models so you'll have to research that. It was a good idea back when every card was reference and you were almost guaranteed a free upgrade no matter which card you bought, but that's not the case now.

 

[Wes]

Usually this is because of a setting in Windows, It automaticly reboots after a BSOD or another kind of error. This can happen because of a few things.

- If you say its only in TM2 it can be a game related bug/error and you have to wait for it to be fixed.

- It could be a bad sector in your memory, altho this seems strange because you say you dont have problems in other games. But you can always try memtest (http://www.memtest.org/) to be sure.

- Put off the automatic reboot setting, and see if you get a BSOD and google the error code.

Thank you for the advice. I got a bit gutsy and flashed the bios and that has done the trick *fingers crossed*!

 

[scogoth]

Intel 320 SSD Bug Fixed

The new firmware update is in final validation testing and is targeted for release on Intel® Communities within the next two weeks. Intel takes firmware updates and issues of reliability very seriously and is taking extra steps to support a smooth release. We appreciate your patience.

 

[catabarez]

I think it might be the PSU but I'm not entirely sure. The computer powers on for a split second and it fails to boot up at all. Would that be a PSU issue?

Edit: I was just able to jumpstart my PSU so that's not it.

Could someone help me? I have no idea what to do.

 

[The Albatross]

QUick question guys because I am a total dummy.

Are these the same thing:

ASRock G31M-S R2.0 LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard NEWEGG


and

ASRock Core 2 Quad/Intel G31/FSB 1600(OC)/A&V&L/MATX Motherboard G31M-S R2.0
AMAZON

I ask because I need to buy one of these as a shitty replacement motherboard. WHile they are the same price, I have Amazon prime and I'd prefer to buy off Amazon (points + prime + free 2nd day shipping, versus NewEgg which is about the same retail price but 3 day shipping for $4, minus points).

The brand and model number are the same (ASRock G31M-S R2.0), but the descriptions in the long name look different and I don't want to make a stupid rookie mistake.

 

[knitoe]

Could someone help me? I have no idea what to do.

If I had to bet, it's probably the MB died.

 

[The Lamonster]

PC-GAF I need help!

Here is my system info:

I think the main bottleneck here is my old ass video card. Any specific recommendations? I want to stick with NVIDIA and don't mind waiting to upgrade if something cool is yet-to-be-released. And once I upgrade my video card, will I be able to max new games like Skyrim?