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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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Deputy Moonman said:
This will be my first desktop PC and first time building a PC. Looking to spend around 800-1000 dollars and I'd like to have it finished within a month's time. Also would like to have a SSD in addition to my HD, but I'm waiting on a halfway decent deal for maybe an 80g version. What do you think of this setup? I'm opting for the GTX460 to save on costs, unless there is something better for a similar price.

CPU: i5 2500K
RAM: 8GB of DDR3 1333
Motherboard: ASRock P67 EXTREME4
GPU: GTX 460 1GB
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (not sure if spacing will be an issue)

Main Use: Gaming, Video Editing, general usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback)
Monitor Resolution: Not sure. Still need to get a monitor. Deciding between 16:9 and 16:10 aspect ratio, and TN versus IPS
Will you be overclocking?: No. Not really planning on maxing out the hardware. So I don't think I'll need to get an additional fan for the CPU, but not positive.

If you are definitely not overclocking, just get a i5 2500 (note the lack of "k"). The "k" allows you to overclock easily, and if you aren't interested in that then save a bit of cash. In addition, you may want to look at this mobo instead: Asrock P67 Pro3

It lacks some of the extra bells and whistles (like no onboard bluetooth, only one PCI-E x16 slot, etc), but it is a solid board. I use it and have enjoyed it thus far.

Dropping the 2500k to a 2500 and the mobo to a Pro3 will save you some cash which you can put towards whatever else you want, like perhaps a better VGA if you wanted.

EDIT: Alternatively, you can take the money you save from a Extreme4 to a Pro3 and look into getting an i7 2600. The hyper-threading on the i7 will be beneficial for video editing.
 

Tom Penny

Member
I feel I accomplished something. Just put together a new motherboard cpu and ram. I am now in the i5 2500k world paired with a GTX 460 :) I was scared to death but it booted right out of the gate. Installed the OS and I'm good. Can't wait to OC it.
 

Revenant

Member
Alright so I'm highly considering pulling the trigger on this build tonight and was wondering if someone can make sure I didn't mess anything up.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14126571


couple questions as well.

1. Does that PSU look ok? I'm kinda of iffy on whats good and bad for those. will it be enough for the 6950?

2. the card is HIS, are they fairly reputable as far as GPU's go?

3. latency for the RAM is 9, is that gonna be a huge issue? I hear most tell me overall RAM doesn't affect gaming that much as long as you have about 4 gbs regardless..
 

Smokey

Member
Tom Penny said:
I feel I accomplished something. Just put together a new motherboard cpu and ram. I am now in the i5 2500k world paired with a GTX 460 :) I was scared to death but it booted right out of the gate. Installed the OS and I'm good. Can't wait to OC it.


I asked Lebron for a dollar and he only gave me 75 cents because he didn't have a 4th quarter.
 
Revenant said:
Alright so I'm highly considering pulling the trigger on this build tonight and was wondering if someone can make sure I didn't mess anything up.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14126571


couple questions as well.

1. Does that PSU look ok? I'm kinda of iffy on whats good and bad for those. will it be enough for the 6950?

2. the card is HIS, are they fairly reputable as far as GPU's go?

3. latency for the RAM is 9, is that gonna be a huge issue? I hear most tell me overall RAM doesn't affect gaming that much as long as you have about 4 gbs regardless..

I'd personally go with the Corsair or Silverstone brands myself. Just check the reviews if it's positive feedback you should be fine!
 
Revenant said:
Alright so I'm highly considering pulling the trigger on this build tonight and was wondering if someone can make sure I didn't mess anything up.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14126571


couple questions as well.

1. Does that PSU look ok? I'm kinda of iffy on whats good and bad for those. will it be enough for the 6950?

2. the card is HIS, are they fairly reputable as far as GPU's go?

3. latency for the RAM is 9, is that gonna be a huge issue? I hear most tell me overall RAM doesn't affect gaming that much as long as you have about 4 gbs regardless..

1) That should be fine. Antec is a solid PSU manufacturer.
2) HIS is not a bad brand, but I don't see any warranty info on that page? I'd be sure to figure out how many years on parts and labor comes with the warranty.
3) Those timings are fine. There are definitely worse than that out there! It will make a difference, but outside of benchmarking, it's unlikely to be noticeable.
 

Revenant

Member
Soka said:
1) That should be fine. Antec is a solid PSU manufacturer.
2) HIS is not a bad brand, but I don't see any warranty info on that page? I'd be sure to figure out how many years on parts and labor comes with the warranty.
3) Those timings are fine. There are definitely worse than that out there! It will make a difference, but outside of benchmarking, it's unlikely to be noticeable.


thank you for the answers man, appreciate it. I think it says on the page 2 years of parts and labor warranty..
 

Revenant

Member
no problem man, I appreciate you helping.

one final question would be, and I know we don't have a true metric for this, but with a 6950 can i feel safe thinking I could play Battlefield 3 and skyrim at 1920X1080 at a playable rate?

I'm not concerned with maxing them out as I am more than willing to turn down AA or a few bells and whistles... just as long as the card will hold up.
 
longdi said:
non-K sandy bridge can still overclock with a p/z68 boards. Read up on Intel limited turbo clock, where you need to set the maximum turbo multiplier up by 4 (400mhz). It is essentially free and easy. i5 2500 can run at 3.8ghz on its four loaded cores. :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/3

Funny what your avatar happens to be.

BTW, is SB-E going to be limited to multiplier overclocking as well? Because if so then it looks like they're aiming squarely for the server/workstation segment with that one.
 
Soka said:
If you are definitely not overclocking, just get a i5 2500 (note the lack of "k"). The "k" allows you to overclock easily, and if you aren't interested in that then save a bit of cash. In addition, you may want to look at this mobo instead: Asrock P67 Pro3

It lacks some of the extra bells and whistles (like no onboard bluetooth, only one PCIW x16 slot, etc), but it is a solid board. I use it and have enjoyed it thus far.

Dropping the 2500k to a 2500 and the mobo to a Pro3 will save you some cash which you can put towards whatever else you want, like perhaps a better VGA if you wanted.

EDIT: Alternatively, you can take the money you save from a Pro4 to a Pro3 and look into getting an i7 2600. The hyper-threading on the i7 will be beneficial for video editing.
Thanks, Soka. Is there any reason I would regret not getting a motherboard with more PCI slots? I'm considering what you said and might just go with the i7 2600.
 
Deputy Moonman said:
Thanks, Soka. Is there any reason I would regret not getting a motherboard with more PCI slots? I'm considering what you said and might just go with the i7 2600.

Having 2 (or 3) PCI-E x16 slots allows you to run 2 (or 3) video cards in Crossfire or SLI, so, the Pro3 will mean you can never have more than 1 video card. Now, you could always replace the card you're looking at with a better card in a year or two if you'd be looking for a boost somewhere.
 

Sanjay

Member
Corky said:
Yeap I read my temps incorrectly, 40 C on the coolest core, 49 on the highest.



Well it is pretty cool in my room, my idle temps are 23-25 C.

Post pictures of the temps and core clock please. Really 25C for idle temp at 4.5ghz is insane for Air cooling.


Chesskid1 said:
holy shit.

i just found out about this keyboard

K750_keyboard_1.jpg


it's solar powered via any type of light. so it will charge off the light on a monitor for example. it holds charges for up to 3 months in complete darkness.

it's like $60 on amazon. god damn amazing.

My brother has this keyboard. Really is awesome having not to deal with no wires and no charging.
 
Soka said:
Having 2 (or 3) PCI-E x16 slots allows you to run 2 (or 3) video cards in Crossfire or SLI, so, the Pro3 will mean you can never have more than 1 video card. Now, you could always replace the card you're looking at with a better card in a year or two if you'd be looking for a boost somewhere.
Okay that makes sense. Having multiple graphics cards is not something I'm really interested in doing. So no loss there.
 

Liberty4all

Banned
Ok, based on the guide in the OP I went to Canada Computers and this what they came up with for me. It's a little (lot) more than I wanted to spend ...


Item Code Description Qty unit subtotal
CPUI002248 Intel Core i5-2500K Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.30Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed) (BX80623I52500K) 1 229.99 229.99

CSCO000574 Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-922M-KKN1-GP) 1 89.99 89.99

DVSS000421 Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE SATA 24X Black DVD Writer OEM
including $3.00 discount until 23-Jun-2011
1 21.99 21.99

FNCM000542 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 4 Heat Pipes, Copper Base (RR-B10-212P-GP) for Socket LGA1156/1366/775 & Socket AM3/AM2+/AM2 1 29.99 29.99

HDWD001278 Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX) 1000GB (1TB) SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache (OEM)
including $5.00 discount until 20-Jun-2011
1 79.99 79.99

MBAS003465 Asus SABERTOOTH P67 (Rev. 3.0) Socket 1155 Intel P67 Chipset Dual Channel DDR3 1800/1866/1600/1333/1066MHz 2x PCI Express 2.0 x16 3x PCI Express 2.0 x1 Slots 8-Channel HD Audio Dual GigaLAN 2x SATA 6Gb/s+4x SATA 3Gb/s 4x USB 3.0+14x USB 2.0 ATX 1 209.99 209.99

MTAS000321
OESF000057
Asus VE247H, 23.6" Widescreen LED Monitor, 1920x1080, 2ms(GtG), 10,000,000:1 (ASCR), 300cd/m², HDMI, DVI-D, SPEAKERS
$10.00 mail-in-rebate also available until 30-Jun-2011; including $10.00 discount until 30-Jun-2011
Ontario Electronic Recycle Fee for Display Devices: Computer Monitors
1
1
179.99
12.25

PSCO000536 Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 High Performance 750W Power Supply 1 129.99 129.99

RAMS000938 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL) 1 44.99 44.99

SWMS002215 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050) 1 99.99 99.99

VCPN000450 PNY GeForce GTX 570 1280MB (VCGGTX570XPB) nVidia GeForce GTX 570 Chipset (732MHz) 1280MB (3800Mhz) GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card 1 319.99 319.99

WARRANTY One Year Part & Labour Warranty 1 19.99 19.99

LA-OS-INST OS Installation Labour
Install Windows/drivers/updates
1 59.99 59.99

LA-SYSTEM
OESF000043
SYSTEM BUILD LABOUR CHARGE
Assemble hardware & 3rd Party Cooling Install
Ontario Electronic Recycle Fee for Desktop Computer
1
1
69.98
7.80
69.98
7.80

Subtotal: 1,586.85
Recycling Fees: 20.05
Subtotal: 1,606.90
13% HST: 208.90

1 systemsTotal: 1,815.80


TigerDirect also gave me an almost identical quote. So where can I save money in this (if at all)? Main use is for gaming .... likely stuff like Eve Online, Starcraft, that sort of thing. FPS's I might dabble in but will likely stick to FPS gaming on 360/PS3
 

RS4-

Member
Bamelin said:
Ok, based on the guide in the OP I went to Canada Computers and this what they came up with for me. It's a little (lot) more than I wanted to spend ...


Item Code Description Qty unit subtotal
CPUI002248 Intel Core i5-2500K Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.30Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed) (BX80623I52500K) 1 229.99 229.99

CSCO000574 Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-922M-KKN1-GP) 1 89.99 89.99

DVSS000421 Samsung SH-S243D/BEBE SATA 24X Black DVD Writer OEM
including $3.00 discount until 23-Jun-2011
1 21.99 21.99

FNCM000542 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 4 Heat Pipes, Copper Base (RR-B10-212P-GP) for Socket LGA1156/1366/775 & Socket AM3/AM2+/AM2 1 29.99 29.99

HDWD001278 Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX) 1000GB (1TB) SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache (OEM)
including $5.00 discount until 20-Jun-2011
1 79.99 79.99

MBAS003465 Asus SABERTOOTH P67 (Rev. 3.0) Socket 1155 Intel P67 Chipset Dual Channel DDR3 1800/1866/1600/1333/1066MHz 2x PCI Express 2.0 x16 3x PCI Express 2.0 x1 Slots 8-Channel HD Audio Dual GigaLAN 2x SATA 6Gb/s+4x SATA 3Gb/s 4x USB 3.0+14x USB 2.0 ATX 1 209.99 209.99

MTAS000321
OESF000057
Asus VE247H, 23.6" Widescreen LED Monitor, 1920x1080, 2ms(GtG), 10,000,000:1 (ASCR), 300cd/m², HDMI, DVI-D, SPEAKERS
$10.00 mail-in-rebate also available until 30-Jun-2011; including $10.00 discount until 30-Jun-2011
Ontario Electronic Recycle Fee for Display Devices: Computer Monitors
1
1
179.99
12.25

PSCO000536 Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 High Performance 750W Power Supply 1 129.99 129.99

RAMS000938 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL) 1 44.99 44.99

SWMS002215 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 64-Bit - 1 PC License and Media - OEM English (GFC-02050) 1 99.99 99.99

VCPN000450 PNY GeForce GTX 570 1280MB (VCGGTX570XPB) nVidia GeForce GTX 570 Chipset (732MHz) 1280MB (3800Mhz) GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card 1 319.99 319.99

WARRANTY One Year Part & Labour Warranty 1 19.99 19.99

LA-OS-INST OS Installation Labour
Install Windows/drivers/updates
1 59.99 59.99

LA-SYSTEM
OESF000043
SYSTEM BUILD LABOUR CHARGE
Assemble hardware & 3rd Party Cooling Install
Ontario Electronic Recycle Fee for Desktop Computer
1
1
69.98
7.80
69.98
7.80

Subtotal: 1,586.85
Recycling Fees: 20.05
Subtotal: 1,606.90
13% HST: 208.90

1 systemsTotal: 1,815.80


TigerDirect also gave me an almost identical quote. So where can I save money in this (if at all)? Main use is for gaming .... likely stuff like Eve Online, Starcraft, that sort of thing. FPS's I might dabble in but will likely stick to FPS gaming on 360/PS3


Have you tried Infonec and NCIX for full system build and price comparisons?

I hate dealing with Canadacomputers, then again I live down the street from the snobby store at Pacific Mall.

Do you really want the sabretooth? You might be able to get CC (or anyone else that pricematches) to do the Newegg.ca bundle of the 2500k + P8P67 Pro for only $384 compared to your current $440. Afaik the only thing worth noting that the Sabretooth has is that plastic heatshield thing they have covering half the board.

Lol charging for 3rd party cooling install.

Anyway it looks like a lot because of the HST and the monitor. You can get the 23" version instead.

edit - http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=38845&vpn=VH236H&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1339
Asus VH236H is only $144 after MIR
 
Are there any good wireless gaming mice, or is wired the only way to go when it comes to games? I'm thinking about getting a new mouse and really would like a wireless mouse.
 

Liberty4all

Banned
Thanks RS4. I actually went to the Canada Computers outlet in Mississauga ... I may try NCIX tomorrow .... didn't feel like driving to Markham from Mississauga in rush hour today.

I'm starting to wonder though if I *really* need all this power. Maybe the damn capable build is a smarter choice for me ...
 
Drinking a cold beer, listening to some music, and beginning the overclocking of my 2500k. Cranked it to 4.5 and 1.33 Vcore (tweaked a few other things slightly). Already did a full Windows Memory Diagnostic to get a quick idea as to how my RAM is going.

Running Prime95 on Blend at 10 minute intervals. If it makes it through that, I'm kicking down the Vcore slightly and running it again. Once I get a crash, I'll pop it up a bit higher and run it for 8 hours or so. About 10 minutes in at 4.5 and 1.33 Vcore and no core has risen to above 69 C... it's about 24 C in my house, so that's not too bad.

Question - If I want to add another fan to my CM Hyper 212+ heatsink, I assume it should push air in the same direction as the fan that's already attached, right?
 

RS4-

Member
Bamelin said:
Thanks RS4. I actually went to the Canada Computers outlet in Mississauga ... I may try NCIX tomorrow .... didn't feel like driving to Markham from Mississauga in rush hour today.

I'm starting to wonder though if I *really* need all this power. Maybe the damn capable build is a smarter choice for me ...

Do you have anything to carry over from a current PC? Make sure you go to the NCIX store by First Markham and not the Warehouse. NCIX is a 5-10 min drive from NCIX too.

I actually got as many parts as I could through RFD and Kijiji. I've saved a couple hundred dollars buying from various people.

edit - does anyone know the difference between these Asus monitors? The VH242H and the 246H? I can't find any solid info other than me assuming the 246H is the "newer" one.
 

Liberty4all

Banned
My "current" PC is an Aspire One Netbook.

=P

The one I had before that is a P4 1.6 ...


I haven't had a "proper" PC in years ... but I'm starting to really miss it. My iPad and netbook have served me well but I want to get my RTS and MMO gaming on ... console games have started to wear thin on me, I miss PC gaming.

edit: thanks I was going to go to the warehouse. Will hit up the store.

edit 2: When I say I'm not sure I need all this power ... example - buying a 2500k motherboard when I have no plans to overclock (don't know how). The guys at Canada Computers said that the only point of getting a motherboard with the k on it is if you plan on overclocking?

I'm so out of the PC scene I'm barely grasping what is likely simple things ...
 

RS4-

Member
Bamelin said:
My "current" PC is an Aspire One Netbook.

=P

The one I had before that is a P4 1.6 ...


I haven't had a "proper" PC in years ... but I'm starting to really miss it. My iPad and netbook have served me well but I want to get my RTS and MMO gaming on ... console games have started to wear thin on me, I miss PC gaming.

edit: thanks I was going to go to the warehouse. Will hit up the store.

edit 2: When I say I'm not sure I need all this power ... example - buying a 2500k motherboard when I have no plans to overclock (don't know how). The guys at Canada Computers said that the only point of getting a motherboard with the k on it is if you plan on overclocking?

I'm so out of the PC scene I'm barely grasping what is likely simple things ...

Yeah, warehouse is closed on weekends. When you drop by NCIX, ask them about bundling all of that together for a discount. For the 2500k it's worth getting as it's only an extra 10-15 bucks. If anything, it's the sabretooth motherboard that you don't need, just switch it to one of the Asus P8P67 boards, or ASRock/Biostar/MSI & Gigabyte if you want to save a little more money.

The biostar mobos are fairly cheap but I haven't read up on them, not sure how many people here on GAF have first hand experience with them.

edit - if NCIX or whoever asks you about the 2500k + P8P67 Pro bundle it's here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660743

for a full system build this one is good:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M2A1600C8
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$922 + tax
http://secure.newegg.ca/Shopping/AddToCart.aspx?Submit=ADD&ItemList=Combo.660821
You're just missing a monitor, cooler, OS and someone to put it together for you

rest of the 2500k combos: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...bCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=100&Page=1
 

Liberty4all

Banned
RS4- said:
Yeah, warehouse is closed on weekends. When you drop by NCIX, ask them about bundling all of that together for a discount. For the 2500k it's worth getting as it's only an extra 10-15 bucks. If anything, it's the sabretooth motherboard that you don't need, just switch it to one of the Asus P8P67 boards, or ASRock/Biostar/MSI & Gigabyte if you want to save a little more money.

The biostar mobos are fairly cheap but I haven't read up on them, not sure how many people here on GAF have first hand experience with them.

edit - if NCIX or whoever asks you about the 2500k + P8P67 Pro bundle it's here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660743

for a full system build this one is good:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M2A1600C8
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$922 + tax
http://secure.newegg.ca/Shopping/AddToCart.aspx?Submit=ADD&ItemList=Combo.660821
You're just missing a monitor, cooler, OS and someone to put it together for you

rest of the 2500k combos: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...bCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=100&Page=1

That seems alot cheaper!


Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M2A1600C8
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Combo Price:$922.99

Thanks for the advice!
 

Skirn

Member
RS4- said:
Have you checked out the HS1A? It's USB but that might work out better for you.
Thanks for the tip, but they don't seem to have virtual surround sound like the HS1... and it's supposedly quite good, according to some reviews. So I picked the HS1 in the end.


Chesskid1 said:
holy shit.

i just found out about this keyboard

K750_keyboard_1.jpg


it's solar powered via any type of light. so it will charge off the light on a monitor for example. it holds charges for up to 3 months in complete darkness.

it's like $60 on amazon. god damn amazing.
I must have this!

Damn, this thread makes my wallet cry...
 

RS4-

Member
Bamelin said:
Will NCIX price match those newegg combos?

They should. The warehouse was willing to do it for me, even CC of all places as well (CC at Pacific Mall has some lousy PM practices); mind you this was only for the 2500k + P67 pro combo

If you get a shitty rep, ask to speak to a manager or something.

Oh if you're talking about the whole package, they might if they carry some of the items and they most likely do.

Call them up and ask to speak to a manager or someone that can help you out.
 
I know this varies from chip-to-chip, but what is considered a good (aka, low) stable voltage for a 2500k at 4.5 Ghz? I think mine will settle around 1.305 to 1.315, though I won't know for sure until I run some Prime95 over night.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Soka said:
I know this varies from chip-to-chip, but what is considered a good (aka, low) stable voltage for a 2500k at 4.5 Ghz? I think mine will settle around 1.305 to 1.315, though I won't know for sure until I run some Prime95 over night.
1.30V or a bit over. Looks like what you have.
 

Arnie

Member
Ok my brother is going to pull the trigger on his rig tonight and he was wondering, what's better for his computer, a GTX 580 or two 6950's? He is building the PC for Battlefield 3 primarily so bare that in mind and he obviously wants it as future proofed as possible.

Outside of the graphics card he is going for the standard i5 2500K with the P67 mobo and 8 gigs of Corsair ram I think. He isn't going for a SSD and just a standard WD 1TB Black. What size PSU should he be getting to power those cards and stuff? And should it be modular?

Any final recommendations for cases too? He wants it as cool as possible because his room gets quite warm as it is.
 

DaBuddaDa

Member
Arnie said:
Ok my brother is going to pull the trigger on his rig tonight and he was wondering, what's better for his computer, a GTX 580 or two 6950's? He is building the PC for Battlefield 3 primarily so bare that in mind and he obviously wants it as future proofed as possible.

Outside of the graphics card he is going for the standard i5 2500K with the P67 mobo and 8 gigs of Corsair ram I think. He isn't going for a SSD and just a standard WD 1TB Black. What size PSU should he be getting to power those cards and stuff? And should it be modular?

Any final recommendations for cases too? He wants it as cool as possible because his room gets quite warm as it is.
If money isn't an issue get whatever graphics card you want. If you're not Scrooge Mcduck, a single GTX 570 or a 6950 flashed to a 6970 will be enough to run every game smoothly at 1920x1080 and doesn't cost $500. Trying to future proof video cards is just flushing hundreds of wasted dollars down the drain.

Is this primarily a gaming computer? If so 8 gigs of RAM will provide no better performance over 4.

For a GTX 570 or equivalent, a quality 650 watt PSU would suffice. For a 580 or two 6950s if he decides to go that route, I'd recommend something in the 700-800 range. Modularity is just personal preference; they don't have to be modular. They cost more but the cables are easier to manage.
 

Balehead

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Yeah, modularity is definitely optional but I do regret getting a non modular PSU for my system. The unused cables just take up extra space and look like shit doing nothing there. Doesn't help the airflow either. Something to consider.

I got my 2500K running at 4,4 GHz at 1,25 Vcore and it's stable. 4,5 would require more Vcore but I'm not willing to go any higher at the moment.
 

Arnie

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DaBuddaDa said:
If money isn't an issue get whatever graphics card you want. If you're not Scrooge Mcduck, a single GTX 570 or a 6950 flashed to a 6970 will be enough to run every game smoothly at 1920x1080 and doesn't cost $500. Trying to future proof video cards is just flushing hundreds of wasted dollars down the drain.

Is this primarily a gaming computer? If so 8 gigs of RAM will provide no better performance over 4.

For a GTX 570 or equivalent, a quality 650 watt PSU would suffice. For a 580 or two 6950s if he decides to go that route, I'd recommend something in the 700-800 range. Modularity is just personal preference; they don't have to be modular. They cost more but the cables are easier to manage.
Ok thanks. I think he has quite a bit of money saved up so he wants to go top of the line, be it a 580 or 2 6950s, so I'll go for about a 750w PSU if that's ok? He's the sort of person that if I suggest getting a 570 to save a bit of money he'll outright reject it.
 

Arnie

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Another thing to note is this is his first PC and he isn't a techno savvy person at all, I just feel that Crossfiring two cards will produce more frustration than it's worth for him in the long run. He's not the type of guy to want to wait for patches and download loads of specific drivers to enable Crossfire in different games. He really does just want a plug and play experience, albeit a very powerful one and in that regard I think a single 580 would be better for him.

Also he keeps going on about additional cooling, does he really need it outisde of just a very well ventilated coolermaster case and a 212 fan on his CPU?
 

DaBuddaDa

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Arnie said:
Another thing to note is this is his first PC and he isn't a techno savvy person at all, I just feel that Crossfiring two cards will produce more frustration than it's worth for him in the long run. He's not the type of guy to want to wait for patches and download loads of specific drivers to enable Crossfire in different games. He really does just want a plug and play experience, albeit a very powerful one and in that regard I think a single 580 would be better for him.

Also he keeps going on about additional cooling, does he really need it outisde of just a very well ventilated coolermaster case and a 212 fan on his CPU?
If that's the case, I highly recommend against using two cards. Tell him to get a single 570 or 580 (or a 6970). With only one HDD, I assume one optical drive?, and one high-end card, a good (antec, corsair, etc.) 750 power supply will be plenty.
 

Arnie

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DaBuddaDa said:
If that's the case, I highly recommend against using two cards. Tell him to get a single 570 or 580 (or a 6970). With only one HDD, I assume one optical drive?, and one high-end card, a good (antec, corsair, etc.) 750 power supply will be plenty.
Cheers yes I think this what he's aiming at. A beasty system but one that isn't too fiddly.
 
Hey guys! My monitor is on the verge of death and I need to replace it before it never turns on again :( I'm afraid to turn off my computer it's so bad, haha.

So I was wondering if anyone has experience with this monitor?

It looks to be the best bang for the buck, and even has crappy built in speakers, just in-case :p

But I was wondering if anyone's used it for gaming, and what does "ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1)" mean? The "(1000:1)" worries me a bit. I know I the want highest contrast available...

I'm all ears to other suggestions for "gaming" monitors for around $200 (The lower price, the better)!

EDIT**

I found these two monitors that seem pretty good for their price.

ASUS VH236H 23" Widescreen Full HD LCD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1080, 20000 :1 Dynamic, 2ms, DVI, HDMI - $179.97 ($159.97 $20 MIR)

Asus ML238H 23" Widescreen LED Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1080, 16:9, 10000000:1 Dynamic, 2ms, VGA, DVI, HDMI - $189.99 ($174.99, $15 MIR)

Is TigerDirect any good anymore, btw? Lol
 

n0n44m

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Arnie said:
Also he keeps going on about additional cooling, does he really need it outisde of just a very well ventilated coolermaster case and a 212 fan on his CPU?

if he's not very tech savvy (and thus won't be trying to overclock it to the absolute max) he won't need any extra

having a warm room means you'll never cool it really good anyway (compared to say an 18c room), so no need to stuff it full with casefans
 

RS4-

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ArtistDude88 said:
I found these two monitors that seem pretty good for their price.

ASUS VH236H 23" Widescreen Full HD LCD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1080, 20000 :1 Dynamic, 2ms, DVI, HDMI - $179.97 ($159.97 $20 MIR)

Is TigerDirect any good anymore, btw? Lol

Get that. It seems like that's close to the standard price now regardless of where you shop for the VH236H. The 24" version is either the VH246H or VH242H.

The 238 and 247 are the LED models.

And TD isn't bad when things are on sale but their prices in general are shit.
 
Guys, I'm looking at a replacement PSU at around the 600w mark, single GPU here.

My question is what is the difference between the Cosair 600w CX and Cosair 600w GS Gaming Series PSU's? I could get either for around the same price, which should I go for?
 

JAD0109

Neo Member
Morning, gentlemen. Need advice once more before I do this thing.

First off, which GPU should I pick? I'm kinda leaning towards the first option, but the second appears to have better cooling (maybe?)

EVGA GTX580

ASUS GTX580

As I've said several times, my two main priorities are building a solid system and keeping it cool since I'll be overclocking. Would the ASUS run cool enough to make it worth getting, or should I get the EVGA? I have a CM 922 HAF case, so it'll have decent airflow...

Either way, I'm going to order one of these GPUs by 9pm tonight. After I get it in hand (very worried about someone jacking my card), I'll order the rest. Here's my build one last time...

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17914166

Cool enough? PSU big enough? Will it play Minecraft* and/or Battlefield 3 without issues?

BTW, I'm ordering almost all of this from Amazon since they're typically cheaper/tax free/free shipping/bloody awesome. The GPU is the only thing I'm getting from Newegg.

@Mr. Nightman: Thanks, I'll probably get that after everything's hooked up and I see if the fans will bother me (which they probably will).

*not srs
 
RS4- said:
Get that. It seems like that's close to the standard price now regardless of where you shop for the VH236H. The 24" version is either the VH246H or VH242H.

The 238 and 247 are the LED models.

And TD isn't bad when things are on sale but their prices in general are shit.

Thanks for the reply. Are LED models bad?
 

RS4-

Member
JAD0109 said:
Morning, gentlemen. Need advice once more before I do this thing.

First off, which GPU should I pick? I'm kinda leaning towards the first option, but the second appears to have better cooling (maybe?)

EVGA GTX580

ASUS GTX580

As I've said several times, my two main priorities are building a solid system and keeping it cool since I'll be overclocking. Would the ASUS run cool enough to make it worth getting, or should I get the EVGA? I have a CM 922 HAF case, so it'll have decent airflow...

Either way, I'm going to order one of these GPUs by 9pm tonight. After I get it in hand (very worried about someone jacking my card), I'll order the rest. Here's my build one last time...

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17914166

Cool enough? PSU big enough? Will it play Minecraft* and/or Battlefield 3 without issues?

BTW, I'm ordering almost all of this from Amazon since they're typically cheaper/tax free/free shipping/bloody awesome. The GPU is the only thing I'm getting from Newegg.

@Mr. Nightman: Thanks, I'll probably get that after everything's hooked up and I see if the fans will bother me (which they probably will).

*not srs


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...m_re=msi_lightning_580-_-14-127-579-_-Product

If the MSI one was in stock, I'd recommend that for a card with good cooling. There's also the Twin Frozr models: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...27567&cm_re=twin_frozr-_-14-127-567-_-Product
 
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