snack said:What's so good about the ASRock P67 EXTREME4 as opposed to the other mobos in the same price range?
.Re-Updated the $1000 build.
Simple common errors with the MSI (cycling) and ASUS (Sleep mainly) caused me to go with the ASRock. Their P67 boards have all reviewed well and seem to lack the problems others have. Hopefully it wasn't just because not a lot of people bought ASRocks in the first place... Now ASRock now has both spots in the builds. Didn't think that would happen!
Didn't see that before. Thanks!Hazaro said:
The Sleep / Hibernation issues have to do with Intel's code and enabling Internal PLL. It affects all brand P67 MBs. Intel needs to provide a fix. Not sure if Z68 boards have the same issue.Hazaro said:Re-Updated the $1000 build.
Simple common errors with the MSI (cycling) and ASUS (Sleep mainly) caused me to go with the ASRock. Their P67 boards have all reviewed well and seem to lack the problems others have. Hopefully it wasn't just because not a lot of people bought ASRocks in the first place... Now ASRock now has both spots in the builds. Didn't think that would happen!
black_vegeta said:Update???
knitoe said:The Sleep / Hibernation issues have to do with Intel's code and enabling Internal PLL. It affects all brand P67 MBs. Intel needs to provide a fix. Not sure if Z68 boards have the same issue.
I have this board. It is excellent. Well made with a nice GUI on the BIOS.snack said:What's so good about the ASRock P67 EXTREME4 as opposed to the other mobos in the same price range?
Diseased Yak said:OEM heatsink/fan, or Noctua? Hmmmmmm...
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Some GPUs can also double as surf boards, or home defense weapons:
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Getting there...
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Had a lot of fun with this build so far, but work keeps intruding. I'm nearly done though.
The Stealth Fox said:Okay, I don't have enough space for the CM Hyper 212+. Does anyone have any smaller solutions for an aftermarket CPU fan for a Phenom II X4 955?
The Stealth Fox said:Okay, I don't have enough space for the CM Hyper 212+. Does anyone have any smaller solutions for an aftermarket CPU fan for a Phenom II X4 955?
A host of things. The most important of which is to mess with your disk stuff, like setting it to AHCI. Rather than going through each one here, I'd suggest reading through your mobo guide to read what each setting does. Google it if you're not sure. Knowing your BIOS in and out is really important to knowing what's going on with the system.Liquid_015 said:Hey guys,
I have a quick question. I just got all my parts together and will be building tomorrow (first time). From what I heard, BIOS will be the most difficult part of the process, and I was wondering is there anything specific I must do while I am in BIOS?
Thanks!
mkenyon said:A host of things. The most important of which is to mess with your disk stuff, like setting it to AHCI. Rather than going through each one here, I'd suggest reading through your mobo guide to read what each setting does. Google it if you're not sure. Knowing your BIOS in and out is really important to knowing what's going on with the system.
Oh man, I'd love to get my hands on one of those. How is it?Wallach said:My new toy arrived today!
RTFM. I don't mean that condescendingly, it's really important as a first time builder to know what's going on. There could be all sorts of random settings that your motherboard comes with that you'll need to change in order for things to work right.Liquid_015 said:Ah, I see. Let's say the least troublesome way to deal with BIOS as a first time builder? From what I heard, the basic things to do in BIOS is to set the boot order and change the time and date?
spicy cho said:Oh man, I'd love to get my hands on one of those. How is it?
Cool. I've never owned an ASRock mobo before so I was a little skeptical of buying them. But since it seems GAF has had pretty good experiences on it, I think I may get one.The Teachinator said:I have this board. It is excellent. Well made with a nice GUI on the BIOS.
I probably should have said something other than sleep, but I wasn't aware since most discussion was about the ASUS board. It seemingly has a slightly higher DOA rate, more 1 star reviews, etc. Feature wise the ASRock does quite well and if it is solid it saves money as well.knitoe said:The Sleep / Hibernation issues have to do with Intel's code and enabling Internal PLL. It affects all brand P67 MBs. Intel needs to provide a fix. Not sure if Z68 boards have the same issue.
Set HDD to ACHI and set it to boot from CD / USB. That's about it.Liquid_015 said:Ah, I see. Let's say the least troublesome way to deal with BIOS as a first time builder? From what I heard, the basic things to do in BIOS is to set the boot order and change the time and date?
You want the V2 Corsair PSU. If you want SLi you want the Silverstone 1000W.AliceInJam said:Alright, I am finally ready to pull the trigger on my first custom pc!! Here are the parts I am going with, I am planning on building this weekend. I still need to decided on a case, any suggestions/preferences? Let me know if anything looks of or if you would recommend something different?? Thanks PC-Gaf
1SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
1ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
1G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) 1
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
1COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm sleeve CPU Cooler
1EVGA GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 015-P3-1580-AR Video Card
1CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
1ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) ATX Intel Motherboard
LE can't BIOS overclock. Get the MSI C43 P67 or the ASRock board.voady said:so I decided for this setup now I am a little bit concerned about the power supply..what do I need. I though about 550w or 600w (Be quiet Straight Power E8 ATX2.3)
Mainboard:
So1155 ASUS P8P67 LE Rev.3.0
Hard Drive:
500 GB WD Caviar Blue
WD5000AAKX - Hard Drive - 500 GB
You have it right. You want the fan to be pushing air across the HS, not dragging it. Top exhaust is good.Soka said:Building my rig, but I paused for a quick question. I have an i5 2500k and am attaching a CM Hyper 212+. My case has a large exhaust fan on top and an exhaust fan on the back (at the top, near the CPU). How should I orient my cooler? Currently I have it up/down, thinking I can utilize the large top exhaust fan to help pull out hot air, but I can't decide if the CPU fan should be above the heatpipes or below... I'm attaching a picture to help explain this.
Currently, as you can see, the CPU fan is facing down/towards where the VGA will be; I'm planning on flipping that to the top.
Hazaro said:You have it right. You want the fan to be pushing air across the HS, not dragging it. Top exhaust is good.
Hazaro said:LE can't BIOS overclock. Get the MSI C43 P67 or the ASRock board.
If you are going for a faster comp, get a Samsung F3 1TB. It's a better, faster, quieter drive.
The LE can't. Regular can, but I'd get the ASRock instead at that price.voady said:Asus P8P67 Rev.3.0 this board can't BIOS overclock? Are you Sure? I thought only the Asus P8H67-M can't overclock (for example the Core I5 2500k), due to the missing feature being able to change the multiplicator..? Now this surprises me
Btw. my question was also, if the power supply: be quiet straight power E8 550w is enough for this setup.
Thank you in advance
Hazaro said:The LE can't. Regular can, but I'd get the ASRock instead at that price.
Yes that 550w will be enough. Runs a bit high on the 12V and seems expensive. Can you get a Seasonic 520w or Corsair at around that price?
just watch videos on youtube of building one, thats what I did, first build went flawless , oh and of course ask any questions you may have in this threadPlasmid said:If i know absolutely nothing about building computers how easy could it be for me?
I'm looking for a way to play SWTOR and a majority of other games with around 500-600 later in the year.
The 520w is fairly quiet, and should be a much better quality unit.voady said:I don't know I need to look it up. Is the Seasonic and the Corsair as quiet as the straight power E8?
Edit: Seasonic S12 II Bronze 520W? You mean this one for example?
I haven't heard anything about ASRock. Which boards are comparable to the Asus?
Thanks in Advance
All you need is a screwdriver and some time. Everything slots in 1 way and is labeled. It's very simple.Plasmid said:If i know absolutely nothing about building computers how easy could it be for me?
I'm looking for a way to play SWTOR and a majority of other games with around 500-600 later in the year.
Hazaro said:I probably should have said something other than sleep, but I wasn't aware since most discussion was about the ASUS board. It seemingly has a slightly higher DOA rate, more 1 star reviews, etc. Feature wise the ASRock does quite well and if it is solid it saves money as well.
Hazaro said:You have it right. You want the fan to be pushing air across the HS, not dragging it. Top exhaust is good.
Yeah I noticed that on bootup I wasn't running 100. I think I had 100.3Yoritomo said:Part of the issue with some of the Asus boards is even on the lowest easy overclock setting you're greated with on the first bios screen it bumps the BCLK. Even on default settings the bclk is not actually 100 but something like 100.5 or 100.3. This ends up causing the double pump issue. PLL is also enabled for even the lowest overclock setting causing the sleep issue.
Hence bad reviews.
Most PC cases don't have a top exhaust which is why.squicken said:Wouldn't it be drawing in the heat from the GPU towards the CPU if it's oriented that way. I'm not saying you are wrong, but every install video I have seen has it sucking in air from the front
Absolutely. You can upgrade to a quadcore/hexacore Sandy/Ivy Bridge down the line and if you get that MSI P67 board you will be able to overclock as well.Loxley said:Alright, I've decided I'm going to *try* and gather the parts for the "Capable" build in the OP over the next few months, since I'm on a pretty strict budget. This is probably a dumb question, but as someone who has never built my own computer before (the closest I've ever come was upgrading a sound card on my old rig a few years ago), does that build lend itself well to future upgrades down the line?
I figure I'll go for the more powerful CPU's/GPU's further down the line, using this build as sort of a launching pad.
Stabby McSter said:So I'm currently using an i5 2500k. Today mother called me and told me that her work gave her an i7 2600k (she works at Intel and this very rarely happens). Could I just swap out my processor easily, or do I have to do something extra?
I would think a 2500K would be sufficient. The 2600 only adds HT so if its optimized for 4 cores anyway...Syphon Filter said:With BF3 coming you guys think i should switch the i5-2500k to the 2600?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-750-overclock,2438.htmlclip said:Can anyone walk me through overclocking an i7-860?
I followed a guide on YouTube, but the end results weren't very stable.
You can swap CPU's freely. Might have to redo some BIOS settings, but no reinstalls or anything.Stabby McSter said:So I'm currently using an i5 2500k. Today mother called me and told me that her work gave her an i7 2600k (she works at Intel and this very rarely happens). Could I just swap out my processor easily, or do I have to do something extra?
OC guide in the OPTheKurgan said:Just got my P8P67PRO Rev 3 in the mail through an NCIX RMA. Can someone give me some quick tips to overclock this board again. I had my old one running at 4.5, but forget how I did it =)
Hazaro said:OC guide in the OP
Manual voltage: ~1.30V
Multi * 45