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[zychi]

anyone have any ideas how to fix itunes in win7? i have 8 gigs of ram, an i7 2600(i think) and the program refuses to work properly.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Newegg has some 560 Ti cards that are around $200 (or at least at $200 or lower after MIR) right now. That would be my suggestion if you can get them while they're on sale.

Any brand recommendations? People aren't liking the MSI one.

 

[Wallach]

Any brand recommendations? People aren't liking the MSI one.

I typically buy eVGA for their warranty and support whenever I buy NVIDIA cards.

 

[Movement]

Any brand recommendations? People aren't liking the MSI one.

Where'd you hear that? I love my twin frozr II 570.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Where'd you hear that? I love my twin frozr II 570.

See the recent reviews for the card. That was the one I was considering.

 

[RiverBed]

QUick question:

I want to create a Steam account for the first time. I can create one using my PSN account using the same PSN name, but with the prefix 'psn_' (appearing before my new Steam name.

But if I want to create a Steam account using a different name, can I still link it to PSN so I can play Portal 2 for free on PC? Or do I HAVE to create a Steam acount via PSN to get that promotional offer?

 

[Qatar]

Looks good to me, are you totally sure you need the i6? And I don't understand why you only want 30gb for your SSD, if you want to put Windows and steam on there, I don't know if that'll be enough.

as I stated below the picture, I want the ssd for intel smart response,
also what's wrong with the i7?

 

[Khal_B]

Doing a bit of reading around, that board does look like it'll work for what you need. Any reason you're going for a P67 board as opposed to the Z68 one?

I'm seeing the z68 board for an extra 30 US as opposed to the P67 on Amazon. I can't order stuff from Newegg, so I order PC parts from Amazon.

Are there any features on the z68 board that justifies the extra 30 bucks?

 

[RiverBed]

Does UPS ship on Saturdays?

 

[JaseC]

as I stated below the picture, I want the ssd for intel smart response,
also what's wrong with the i7?

The general consensus is that the i7 isn't worth the extra coin over the i5 unless you plan on using programs that make heavy use of hyperthreading (e.g. video editing/encoding).

 

[frailimbnursry]

As for the mobo, I can't seem to find a difference (other than the 45 edition having a USB 3 back plate included, and firewire) between the P67A-G45 in your build, and the P67A-G43 in the Microcenter ads ($119 AR - $40 instant, $80 total, if I'm understanding the sale correctly). So, $20 savings in other words. I probably wouldn't bother.

I think I read their sale wrong then. As for differences, comparing the two on Newegg it would only seem that one has 2 additional USB 3.0 slots and one Firewire (of which I have no use). $20 is a decent savings. I might jump on that. Thank you.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

So which would you recommend

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130651&cm_re=evga_560-_-14-130-651-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130604&cm_re=evga_560-_-14-130-604-_-Product

 

[knitoe]

I'm seeing the z68 board for an extra 30 US as opposed to the P67 on Amazon. I can't order stuff from Newegg, so I order PC parts from Amazon.

Are there any features on the z68 board that justifies the extra 30 bucks?

Yes. Quick Sync (video encoding), SSD caching and integrated GPU.

 

[Movement]

as I stated below the picture, I want the ssd for intel smart response,
also what's wrong with the i7?

Excuse me, I meant i7. Oh ok I'm not aware of what that is. Basically, if you plan on gaming exclusively the i5 is all you need. If you plan on using editing/encoding programs ie; Photoshop or similar than i7 is great.

 

[Movement]

So which would you recommend

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130651&cm_re=evga_560-_-14-130-651-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130604&cm_re=evga_560-_-14-130-604-_-Product

The Core Clock and Shader Clock are higher in the more expensive one. By ~50MHz.

 

[LordCanti]

Looks good to me, are you totally sure you need the i6? And I don't understand why you only want 30gb for your SSD, if you want to put Windows and steam on there, I don't know if that'll be enough.

He's planning to use Intel Smart Response. Basically it uses a small SSD (20-30gb or so) as a cache for frequently used programs, and the OS. I'd rather just put my OS on the SSD and be done with it.

so after hours and hours, I've figured out what to pick

first of all, I picked a 30gb ssd so that I'd use it with Intel smart technology, do you suggest that? because I want the ssd for windows 7 and steam, and I will need at least 128gb if not more, which would cost me $200+

so what do you guys think about this? would you suggest any other parts other that what I picked?

I would go with a 60-80gb SSD, put the OS on it, my most used apps, and then the games I play the most. When you get tired of a game, you can move it off to the storage drive, and then back if you ever want to play it off the SSD again. Intel Smart Response is so new, that I'm not sure how it is going to impact the longevity of an SSD, or how stable it is in general. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, I'd say go for it.

The wireless card you have there seems to be a laptop add-on, and not a part that can be used in a desktop, unless I am quite mistaken (it's mini pci-e. I don't think a desktop mobo would be compatible). You'll need to pick one that is either PCI, or USB (like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e=Wireless_USB_adapter-_-33-704-045-_-Product or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...m_re=PCI_wireless_card-_-33-166-020-_-Product)

If you aren't going to encode video, there is no reason to go with a 2600k over a 2500k. It will make no difference in gaming, or movie watching. It would be $100 down the drain.

Other than those minor issues, the only thing I see is your PSU. It's overpowered for a single GTX 580, and underpowered for SLI. You could safely scale that back to the 650w model from the same manufacturer (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&cm_re=TX650-_-17-139-005-_-Product) and save $20 after rebate, if you are never planning on SLI'ing.

I think I read their sale wrong then. As for differences, comparing the two on Newegg it would only seem that one has 2 additional USB 3.0 slots and one Firewire (of which I have no use). $20 is a decent savings. I might jump on that. Thank you.

I hope I'm understanding the sale correctly, because I'm thinking about going there myself tomorrow and possibly coming out with a new build.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Looks good to me, are you totally sure you need the i6? And I don't understand why you only want 30gb for your SSD, if you want to put Windows and steam on there, I don't know if that'll be enough.

He's planning to use the SSD as a cache for the HDD, since it's a Z68 board.

Speaking of, I'm seriously considering moving up from a P67 Deluxe to a Z68 Maximus IV. That would jump the mobo up from $250 to $360. I'll likely just go to a Z68 Deluxe since that'll be a much lower jump in price (if at all).

 

[The_Inquisitor]

The Core Clock and Shader Clock are higher in the more expensive one. By ~50MHz.

They're both 239.99

 

[DigiMish]

*****system specs*****

You can find that CPU COOLER for $20 cheaper HERE

Shipping is like $10 (at least for me), so you would probably save a tenner.

 

[Wallach]

So which would you recommend

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130651&cm_re=evga_560-_-14-130-651-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4130604&cm_re=evga_560-_-14-130-604-_-Product

I would probably get the reference card myself (the bottom one). It's up to you, but that aftermarket cooling seems pretty new and I haven't heard enough to judge it well.

 

[Movement]

They're both 239.99

Oh, I was just looking at the previous price. In the second one. It's in the details.

 

[black_vegeta]

Does UPS ship on Saturdays?

Yes

 

[The_Inquisitor]

I would probably get the reference card myself (the bottom one). It's up to you, but that aftermarket cooling seems pretty new and I haven't heard enough to judge it well.

I gotta get to bed, but 50Mhz for free essentially is temping. I'm a bit dissapointed my 460 only lasted 1 year. Will definantely be keeping it as a backup when it returns from RMA as I believe it will inevitably be needed when this new card needs to be RMA'ed. What the hell happened to quality control?

But yeah, so you think I should just go w/ the reference?

Oh, I was just looking at the previous price. In the second one. It's in the details.

So the older one?

 

[Movement]

I gotta get to bed, but 50Mhz for free essentially is temping. I'm a bit dissapointed my 460 only lasted 1 year. Will definantely be keeping it as a backup when it returns from RMA as I believe it will inevitably be needed when this new card needs to be RMA'ed. What the hell happened to quality control?

But yeah, so you think I should just go w/ the reference?

They're basically both the same since you can overclock either. Personally I would just go with the one that has more reviews and a higher rating.

 

[frailimbnursry]

I hope I'm understanding the sale correctly, because I'm thinking about going there myself tomorrow and possibly coming out with a new build.

You are. Once added to the cart, the motherboard is $79.99 after MIR and $94.99 before MIR.

 

[knitoe]

He's planning to use the SSD as a cache for the HDD, since it's a Z68 board.

Speaking of, I'm seriously considering moving up from a P67 Deluxe to a Z68 Maximus IV. That would jump the mobo up from $250 to $360. I'll likely just go to a Z68 Deluxe since that'll be a much lower jump in price (if at all).

The Maximus is only really worthwhile if you go triple video cards. Otherwise, stick with the Pro or Deluxe.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

They're basically both the same since you can overclock either. Personally I would just go with the one that has more reviews and a higher rating.

K done. So is EVGA's warranty everything everyone cracks it up to be? How long is the typical RMA?

 

[Wallach]

I gotta get to bed, but 50Mhz for free essentially is temping. I'm a bit dissapointed my 460 only lasted 1 year. Will definantely be keeping it as a backup when it returns from RMA as I believe it will inevitably be needed when this new card needs to be RMA'ed. What the hell happened to quality control?

But yeah, so you think I should just go w/ the reference?

The reference shouldn't have trouble hitting those numbers anyway. I personally am always a little wary of non-reference coolers.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

So since I'd be getting a Noctua fan anyway to go with the Megahalems, would it make more sense to just simply go with a Noctua NH-C14 instead for the cooler?

 

[LordCanti]

So since I'd be getting a Noctua fan anyway to go with the Megahalems, would it make more sense to just simply go with a Noctua NH-C14 instead for the cooler?

Yes. Are you planning an extreme overclock? There is no reason to spend the extra money if you aren't (a Hyper 212 or something in its price range is fine for most).

Make sure it fits in your case before you order it as well. It's enormous (it could hit the RAM, a heatsink, etc).

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Yes. Are you planning an extreme overclock? There is no reason to spend the extra money if you aren't (a Hyper 212 or something in its price range is fine for most).

Make sure it fits in your case before you order it as well. It's enormous (it could hit the RAM, a heatsink, etc).

I'll be doing some OCing, but would like the flexibility to go farther with it if I choose to. I'm assuming the HAF X case should provide plenty of room.

 

[gatti-man]

I'll be doing some OCing, but would like the flexibility to go farther with it if I choose to. I'm assuming the HAF X case should provide plenty of room.

Its huge. Really really big. Your case will be fine just check the mobo you are using. Id google it just to be sure. Or get an h50. I have mine attached to an exit fan at the top of the hafx. Pm me if you want pics.

 

[Movement]

It really is. My 212+ almost touches my ram with the fan on. I can't even imagine that beast in there. On the plus side, my 212 cools the ram at the same time!

 

[LordCanti]

I'll be doing some OCing, but would like the flexibility to go farther with it if I choose to. I'm assuming the HAF X case should provide plenty of room.

Even if the case fits it, the cooler may not fit on your motherboard. You should check whether or not anyone has installed that cooler on the specific motherboard you want to purchase, before you do it.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Its huge. Really really big.

I could see that:

So are you saying I'd need something bigger than a HAF X if I'm considering this?

Even if the case fits it, the cooler may not fit on your motherboard. You should check whether or not anyone has installed that cooler on the specific motherboard you want to purchase, before you do it.

I was responding to "is the case big enough," not the mobo part. With how recently the Z68 boards have come out, I'll have to do some digging.

 

[Movement]

Looking at that pic, I don't understand how you guys are able to get your ram sticks in the slots there. It appears to be blocking the first two slots.

 

[Qatar]

thanks guys for the help, I guess I saved a few bucks.

 

[gatti-man]

I could see that

So are you saying I'd need something bigger than a HAF X if I'm considering this?

My apologies. I meant the hafx is huge, really really big. Its the biggest and widest case I have ever owned.

 

[Darkman M]

I could see that:

[IG]http://i.imgur.com/Yf3Yi.jpg[/IMG]

So are you saying I'd need something bigger than a HAF X if I'm considering this?


I was responding to "is the case big enough," not the mobo part. With how recently the Z68 boards have come out, I'll have to do some digging.

There aren't many cases bigger then the Haf X as far as i know. The Haf X s huge and can handle any part on the market.

 

[LordCanti]

Looking at that pic, I don't understand how you guys are able to get your ram sticks in the slots there. It appears to be blocking the first two slots.

Once that RAM goes in, it's not coming out while that heatsink is still there.

So are you saying I'd need something bigger than a HAF X if I'm considering this?

Your case should be fine. That cooler seems to be much wider than it is tall, so clearance with the side panel shouldn't be an issue. If you end up doing it, be sure to let us know how everything fit.

thanks guys for the help, I guess I saved a few bucks.

No problem. Good luck with your build.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

So I found these snippets for the Z68 Deluxe:

The cooler is so big that you cant use both fans on it with the memory mentioned below in all slots. You must remove the lower fan and cant get full effect of the cooler. Idle I am still at 36C so it is good.

If you move the front fan connectors up a bit, you can still use the push-pull configuration.

The NC-C14 overhangs a bit to the side, but you have the choice to install it such that the overhang is to the right or left or below the CPU. Just don't install it such that the heat pipes are at the top. I've put the NH-C14 in my build (ASUS p8p67 Pro, i7 2600K, 16GB GSkill Ripaws). The clearance was tight but there was still room to spare with both fans installed.

Sounds like I may be able to figure out how to get it to fit, and worst case I just take off the bottom fan.

Go big or go home, I guess.

 

[Trojita]

Can routers affect Speed Tests at all?

 

[LordCanti]

Can routers affect Speed Tests at all?

An improperly configured or broken one, sure. The easy test is plugging directly into the modem, doing the test, and then comparing to the test through the router. If your speed is considerably less, something is going on.

 

[AwesomeSauce]

Man just replaced my stock AM3 cooler with a Hyper 212+.

CPU: Phenom II x6 1055t @ 3.5ghz

Just gotta say that it is such a quiet beast! For some reason GTAIV was heating up my cpu to like ~57c with the fan all loud and whiny on the stock cooler. I replaced it a few hours ago and now the game only gets my cpu to ~35c max while idling at ~22c and is super quiet. Totally worth the $25 at Frys.

 

[RiverBed]

*Does UPS ship on Saturdays?*
Yes

SO COOL! My new sweet ass build will arrive on Saturday then. I know what I'll be doing in the weekend! I'm like a kid on Chrismass morning. I already bought a few games from Steam. C&C4 ad RA3 are only $4 each! what a steal!

 

[LordCanti]

SO COOL! My new sweet ass build will arrive on Saturday then. I know what I'll be doing in the weekend! I'm like a kid on Chrismass morning. I already bought a few games from Steam. C&C4 ad RA3 are only $4 each! what a steal!

UPS doesn't deliver on Saturday, unless you've paid for Saturday delivery. (http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/value_added/sat_delivery.html)

I know this, because I've bought a ton of stuff from Amazon, that sat at a UPS facility over the weekend. Put your tracking number into google, and it will show you when your package will be delivered. Unless it says Saturday, it's probably going to come Monday.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I haven't finished putting everything together in my case, yet. I had a question about the hyper 212 cooler. I've got it installed on a P67 extreme4 mobo, but the fan casing is basically touching the nearest stick of memory. Should I move the memory over to a different slot?

 

[Hazaro]

Updated the two general builds with some additional text for information.

 

[clav]

Hey Hazaro. There's a serious flaw in the firmware provided in the Samsung F4 2TB drives.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/faqView.do?b2b_bbs_msg_id=386

It's recommended to update to this although the updater only runs in DOS.

A disccusion is here: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1597038

I plan to check on my friend's build this weekend and will update accordingly.

I may post my own guide later.

 

[Hazaro]

Hey Hazaro. There's a serious flaw in the firmware provided in the Samsung F4 2TB drives.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/faqView.do?b2b_bbs_msg_id=386

It's recommended to update to this although the updater only runs in DOS.

A disccusion is here: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1597038

I plan to check on my friend's build this weekend and will update accordingly.

I may post my own guide later.

I thought this was fixed in January which is why I got rid of the strike through.
Is it still affecting new drives?

Can someone please confirm drives manufactured after Dec 2010 do not require the firmware upgrade?

-Samsung support has said this very thing.