MrOogieBoogie
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Kurashima said:
What am supposed to be looking at with the Hardware Monitor? All I see are my HDDs.
"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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What am supposed to be looking at with the Hardware Monitor? All I see are my HDDs.
Which case should I get:
Fractal Arc Midi (Black)
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=57
Fractal Arc Define R3 (Black Pearl)
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=48
or
Coolermaster CM690 II Lite
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6638
Any other recommendations apart from the above?
Fractal Arc Midi (Black)
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=57
Fractal Arc Define R3 (Black Pearl)
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=48
or
Coolermaster CM690 II Lite
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6638
Any other recommendations apart from the above?
chaosblade
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I was going to put in a second 200mm fan, it does have two slots right? Corsair's site isn't very specific, it only says it includes a 200mm fan but doesn't say how many slots there are. The picture seems to show two though.·feist· said:
I'll just have to see once it gets here. Thanks for the suggestions. Certainly didn't know that 230mm fans had mounting holes for 200mm, or at least some of them do.
(And yeah, AC most of the year. Only a few months where I don't use it.)
wandering goat
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MrOogieBoogie said:
Huh, strange. Do you have everything expanded? Mine shows voltages, motherboard temps, fan speeds, CPUtemp , HDD temp, and GPU temp in that order. If the program just doesn't show anything else, perhaps your motherboard just doesn't send out the usual info, in which case I'd just suggest focusing on GPU and CPU temp programs, as it's fairly unlikely anything else is giving you heat problems, unless you have almost no airflow going on in your case.
LordCanti said:
nice, that should be it.
Im getting a similar noise when using specific stuff like some web browsers or entering certain sites, or just scrolling, wich at first i thought was really weird but then when i changed my PSU to the one that's on RMA now that noise went away, and after googling a bit i found out that its a common issue among some PSUs :/ weird. Now its back because i have the same PSU that did it the first time (this thermaltake 750w one), getting on my nerrrrrves.
Hopefully it'll go away once i change the PSU again, buut any ideas on this? man my ear is a bitch
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Kurashima said:
I have a really crappy, Dell Inspiron motherboard, so that could be it. But does my problem sound like a CPU or GPU problem?
wandering goat
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MrOogieBoogie said:
I'd say it's either one of those, or it's just nothing. Check your temps with other programs and if they're good, then don't worry about it. I wouldn't necessarily compare them with what SpeedTemp gave you before, as it's possible the measurements were inaccurate, the difference possibly even stemming from a program update or something, and it's not really known what they were for anyway.
Ravenn17 said:
Depends on the resolution. Arkham City is likely to have performance along the lines of Arkham Asylum, so I'd look up benchmarks for it and the 460. Skyrim is anyone's guess, but considering that it is a title bound for the consoles, it is likely that the 460 will perform very well (the same goes for Arkham City, unless there are a lot of PhysX effects or something)
BF3 is a different story potentially. We've been hearing that demo runs are being done on GTX 580's (and HD6970's at Gamescom). If you are running sub 1080p (1920x1080), you may be able to max it. If not, you'll have to make some visual sacrifices. It's still going to look fantastic though.
(All of the above assumes that your CPU is up to the task)
I only have a laptop right now, and while it is pretty powerful for a laptop it just overheats way too much for gaming. (Also starting to have some major screen issues and I'm not under warranty)
Thinking of getting a PC, but I can't really afford what I'd like to have, considering getting something from Alienware on financing, but paying all that extra money over such a long period of time feels stupid, especially on something that's already overpriced in the first place. I'm don't know what the hell I'll do.
I know for sure I'll be waiting for bulldozer, I am an AMD fan after all. Will 7xxx or 6xx series be coming from AMD or Nvidia any time soon?
Thinking of getting a PC, but I can't really afford what I'd like to have, considering getting something from Alienware on financing, but paying all that extra money over such a long period of time feels stupid, especially on something that's already overpriced in the first place. I'm don't know what the hell I'll do.
I know for sure I'll be waiting for bulldozer, I am an AMD fan after all. Will 7xxx or 6xx series be coming from AMD or Nvidia any time soon?
Vodka Martini
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Coldsnap said:
The Gentle Typhoons are very quiet. None of them are being modulated in any way, so they're always going full speed at 1850 rpm. As Feist mentioned earlier, the Corsair H100 unit has really powerful stock fans, but they're loud when set to the highest "performance" mode, which is why a lot of people choose to stick with the "balanced" mode or swap out the fans with GTs or something quieter.
All together the case does have a noticeable "pushing of air" sound to it, and even though it's constant (not ramping up and down) and forgettable it would probably annoy me to sit nearby. Keep in mind I'm extremely intolerant of any kind of ambient heat/noise, and I knew going in that I would be running 25 ft. of cabling through several walls so that the unit could be placed in a hidden corner of an adjacent 25x20 ft. billiards room. Just for reference, when the A/C is on it will completely mask the sound of the computer no matter where in the room you are with it.
So long story short - it's certainly not loud, but I wouldn't recommend it if silence is your thing. The case is just too open and there are too many fans pushing air around.
black_vegeta
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Soi-Fong said:
uuugggghhhh
Deus Ex Machina
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I read it was one 580.black_vegeta said:uuugggghhhh
Soi-Fong said:
That doesn't really match with the tweet that went out from DICE, asking to buy 30 or so HD6970's in a hurry.
SLI'd 580's would be overkill at 1080p, and I doubt they brought any higher resolution monitors to Gamescom.
I'm sure Nvidia would love you to believe that you need two of them though...
black_vegeta
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Either way I'm sure my gtx570 will be fine.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Am I the only one who thinks this PC is a fucking steal for a low/mid-tier build?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1101361&sku=B69-1352
GIGABYTE GA-H61M-S2-B3 Intel 6 Series Motherboard
Intel Core i3-2100 3.10 GHz Dual Core Processor
Patriot 4GB DDR3-1333MHz G2 Desktop Memory Module
Seagate Barracuda 1TB Low Power Hard Drive
DiabloTek Elite 450W PSU ATX Mid Tower Case
Lite-On Internal 24X DVD Writer
Patriot 4GB DDR3-1333MHz G2 Desktop Memory Module
Combined discounted price: $299
I'm planning to buy this for my brother who has been using a PC that is more than 6 years old (!) and I think this will be a great PC for video/music/photo editing and other heavy softwares.
How wrong am I or how better deals are out there for $300?
Note: Monitor, Graphic Card, Wireless Card and any other I/O device is not not required since I already have those.
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1101361&sku=B69-1352
GIGABYTE GA-H61M-S2-B3 Intel 6 Series Motherboard
Intel Core i3-2100 3.10 GHz Dual Core Processor
Patriot 4GB DDR3-1333MHz G2 Desktop Memory Module
Seagate Barracuda 1TB Low Power Hard Drive
DiabloTek Elite 450W PSU ATX Mid Tower Case
Lite-On Internal 24X DVD Writer
Patriot 4GB DDR3-1333MHz G2 Desktop Memory Module
Combined discounted price: $299
I'm planning to buy this for my brother who has been using a PC that is more than 6 years old (!) and I think this will be a great PC for video/music/photo editing and other heavy softwares.
How wrong am I or how better deals are out there for $300?
Note: Monitor, Graphic Card, Wireless Card and any other I/O device is not not required since I already have those.
shagg_187 said:
The deal is really in the rebate, unless Canadian prices are a lot higher than American prices (I priced it out on Newegg US...then I realized that was Tigerdirect Canada ><). If the rebate goes through, you've saved $50. If it doesn't, then you haven't, lol.
Bundled PSU's are known to be junk, and I can't find any reviews for that particular one. It may be fine, or it may be a terror. Other than that, the build seems to be a nice deal (assuming the rebates go through).
Soi-Fong said:
A 6970 is roughly the equivalent of a GTX 570. The 580 is the strongest single GPU card right now (and it's priced accordingly).
I can't find the tweet. It did happen though, a couple days ago.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Yeah, bundled PSU are indeed shit as I've had bad experience with them but it's usually only if you get a graphics card that needs the exact power it needs and the bundled PSU doesn't provide that exact power (always way lower than what it portrays it to be).
And I JUST realized it's Dual Core, not Quad... back to the drawing board? lol
And yeah, Canadian prices are a LITTLE higher but not that high (at max $50 difference for a PC like this).
And I JUST realized it's Dual Core, not Quad... back to the drawing board? lol
And yeah, Canadian prices are a LITTLE higher but not that high (at max $50 difference for a PC like this).
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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LordCanti said:
Yeah, video editing/converting and photoshopping is the primary goal. I hate seeing his shit 6 year old Gateway PC taking hours rendering a video and want to build him one, while a lot of stuff from his old PC that I replaced can be recycled over e.g. cooling fans, hard drive, etc.
LordCanti said:
It scares me too, that's why when someone made it over at OT, I JUST HAD TO TAKE IT FOR THE DAY!
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Eiji said:
I went with the Arc and I love it, so easy to work with. But if you want a more quiet PC (not that the Arc is loud) then the R3 might be the better choice. I haven't seen much from the Coolermaster so I can't say anything about it.
Vodka Martini said:Rejoining the PC crowd after a few years of console-only gaming. Was originally planning on an air-cooled system in a Corsair 600T case, but Akira_22's pictures inspired me to switch things up at the last minute.
- Fractal Design Arc Midi Case
- Corsair AX850 Power Supply
- Asus P8Z68-V Motherboard
- Intel Core i5 2500k Processor
- 16GB RAM, G.Skill Ripjaw (1600)
- Corsair H100 Liquid CPU Cooler
- EVGA Geforce GTX 590 Classified
- Crucial 128GB M4 SSD
- 4x Samsung EcoGreen F4 2TB Hard Drives
- Asus DVDRW
- 7x Gentle Typhoon AP-15 Case Fans
- Slim Keyboard & G500 Gaming Mouse
- Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound
- Dell UltraSharp U3011 30" Monitor (2560x1600) [Not Pictured]
- CyberPower 1500VA 900W UPS (Pure Sine Wave) [Not Pictured]
- Assorted Audio/Video/Networking Cables [Not Pictured]
YEAH BOY! Hell yeah man, that is a freaking rad set up.
Glad I could make one persons life happier. LOVE the Arc, how good is it? so much room, so quiet, so good looking.
Corsair H100, what great cooler, yeah it's pricey, and probably overkill for a 2500k but WGAF. you will have e-Peen cred... with me any way, lol. I hope you have push pull on that sucker, it looks like you have the fans to do it.
Also how fucking good is the Dell US 30'? I have had mine for 4 months and love it. Run this setup process and you will be laughing.
EVEN AN UPS, Fucking epic!
Great cable management too.
Congrats dude, very nice, It's nearly perfect IMO.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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For the love of God and all that is glory, I cannot do wiring like that. I just CAN'T. I pussy out and have at times used scotch tape...
shagg_187 said:For the love of God and all that is glory, I cannot do wiring like that. I just CAN'T. I pussy out and have at times used scotch tape...
It's all about the case mate. That is the Fractal Arc, it and the Corsair 600T are maniacs at cable management. but a few zip ties and some patience will have yours looking the same if you have the grommets.
all you need is the right case and patience.
Hey Vodkamartini quick question, how does the H100 sound in that case? I notice you have it on full pelt, is that permanent or just for testing purposes?
Dries
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AkIRA_22 said:It's all about the case mate. That is the Fractal Arc, it and the Corsair 600T are maniacs at cable management. but a few zip ties and some patience will have yours looking the same if you have the grommets.
all you need is the right case and patience.
Hey Vodkamartini quick question, how does the H100 sound in that case? I notice you have it on full pelt, is that permanent or just for testing purposes?
What ATI cards are those?
I think I'm gonna choose a ATI 6970 over a GTX 570. Saw a couple of benchmarks on crysis and the 6970 seems to perform a bit better, so that's that.
At that resolution and on a single monitor would the 3GB version of the GTX 580 make any difference? Or is that extra RAM only relevant at resolutions above 1920x1080?LordCanti said:
I'm only going to run a single monitor with a max res of 1900x1200, but I want to make sure I can run anything at that resolution on highest settings - so not sure if I should go for the 1.5GB or 3GB version of the 580... or if i should just go for a 590...?
pirateben said:
From everything I've seen, the extra RAM is pointless at 1080p and 1200p. As for a 590, it is almost certainly overkill at that resolution for any game on the market.
I would go with a 580. It's very likely to max BF3 at that resolution. If it can't, well, you could always add another I guess.
Edit: Here's a bunch of 1080p benchmarks. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...ntom-3-graphics-card-review-introduction.html
Vodka Martini
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AkIRA_22 said:
ARRG! I still get jealous looking at your pictures, especially when they're right next to mine! =P
The setting on the H100 unit doesn't actually affect my system, since none of the radiator fans are connected to it. They will always run at 1850 rpm (I hate the sound of fans ramping up and slowing down). This is a much quieter arrangement than if I had used the stock fans in "high performance" mode, but it does push less air through it.
And yes, I love the U3011! Though I just went with the pre-calibrated sRGB profile, which I heard was really good. I'll be sure to play with the manual adjustments when I get a chance.
Thanks for the nice comments!
Dries said:
The 6970 has 2gb of memory mostly because it's designed with multiple monitors in mind.
The only game I've hit a RAM limit in at 1080p, has been GTA IV, and only after adding gigs and gigs of additional HR textures, and the IceEnhancer mod.
The link I posted goes through a few titles (Crysis for instance) where the 3gb model GTX 580 was shown to make little if any difference in FPS. Had they upped the resolution to 2560x1600, the 3gb would have pulled ahead, but at 1080p there was no difference to be found.
If you plan to do a lot of HR texture modding (or something similar), I could see a card with more RAM being worth it. If not, the regular GTX 580 is fine (the 6970 is a good value for the money as well).
The more the better, but over 8gb (of system memory) and you're unlikely to use the additional RAM. More than 1.5 on a video card, and you are unlikely to use the extra at 1080p.
Dries said:
Aah. It's a tossup there. They trade off games in terms of performance, if memory serves. Definitely check out some benchmarks for the games you'll be playing. If BF3 is the main concern, the beta should hopefully offer some insight into what performance will be like in the final game.
Vodka Martini said:
Righto, I understand the hate of changing fan speeds, my two H50 fans are on the supplied fractal fan controller along with the rear fan.
Pro-tip for the H100; attach the pump power to a molex adapter, it will get even better performance running on the full 12V, it won't increase the noise either.
Cool - interesting read.LordCanti said:
I guess another thing to consider with that Asus is that it takes 3 slots - so upgrading to an SLI setup would not really be possible if you were so inclined (well, at least not without buying a further two new cards, heh). Not certain about it yet, but SLI is a possibility for my setup a couple of years down the line... but who knows - maybe two 580s will be relatively affordable by then.
iSurvivedTheOutage
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all dat ram
bs000 said:
Seeking GAF approval before pulling the trigger. I won't have any problems with compatibility or fitting everything in that case will I?
If you'll never SLI, you can drop down to the 650w model of the same line, and save a bit of money.
If your main concern is games, you could drop the 2600k to a 2500k, because the 2600k doesn't offer any advantages for games (and may never, depending on whether or not Hyper Threading is ever supported in games). The 2600k is only helpful for things like video encoding.
If you're buying 16GB of RAM, I assume you have a specific purpose for it? If not, even 8GB is kind of overkill for games.
Other than that, everything looks great. There shouldn't be any issues with things not fitting inside the 600T.
Vodka Martini
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AkIRA_22 said:
The H80 & H100 both require molex connections. That is the only way to supply power to the unit. The fan header will just give rpm data to the motherboard.
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