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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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Dries
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So Nvidia is planning on naming their new cards in the 900 series? Beat me if old: http://videocardz.com/51426/nvidia-...ies-geforce-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-mid-september
Wouldn't be the first time. They also skipped GTX1xx to go straight to GTX280 at the time. Probably because they will name their mobile parts GTX8xx and desktop will get GTX9xx.
Whichever is cheaper.
Nice, I'll look into that. Thanks for all the responses.
Vigilant Walrus
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holy shit... my 470 OC Gigabyte is now giving me artifacts, freezes. I guess its beginning of the end. this card has served me well for almost 5 years. I've never outlasted a used graphics card before. But that was becauseI never bought high end GPUs. I always upgraded frequently, so never used any cards beyond their lifespan.
I have another identical 470 card I used to use for a SLI setup. Gonna see if I can use that for the next few months. I just need it to last long enough for some good priced 800 series card. Fermi, you won't be missed, but thank you for everything.
I have another identical 470 card I used to use for a SLI setup. Gonna see if I can use that for the next few months. I just need it to last long enough for some good priced 800 series card. Fermi, you won't be missed, but thank you for everything.
You're better off with the Anniversary Pentium and a 265 for emulating
Yep. Intel (and Haswell more specifically) is the best and only option for emulation.
xBladeM6x
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Makes that little of a difference? Hmmm. I'll admit I'm somewhat persuaded to go with the 840 Pro only because I've heard it so often being praised, but the price difference is nearly half.
They're both great. The Pro is better, but it's not worth twice the price. If you can afford the Pro why not get an MX100 in a bigger size?
xBladeM6x
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My plan was to get two 128GB SSD so that I could run windows / programs on one, and record shit to the other / play certain games on the other. (Along with a massive HDD for storing everything else, like Steam games and all that)
Edit Note: Basically instead of 1 256GB SSD, I could split the work load into two 128GB SSD's.
Why bother? Unless you're going to be heavily multi-tasking on both drives at the same time, I don't think you'd ever notice the difference.
Inferno313
Banned
I'm buying a Z97 Mobo + 16 Gigs of DDR3 + i7-4790k this weekend for my new build.
I saw the new Haswell-E cards came out, would the 5820k be worth the extra money for a gaming PC/Video Editing PC? I'm trying to stay on a budget, and from what I gather, even though the 5820k is only $50 more, I'd also have to pay more for DDR4 ram and a more expensive motherboard, is that correct?
I saw the new Haswell-E cards came out, would the 5820k be worth the extra money for a gaming PC/Video Editing PC? I'm trying to stay on a budget, and from what I gather, even though the 5820k is only $50 more, I'd also have to pay more for DDR4 ram and a more expensive motherboard, is that correct?
Yup. Unless video editing it's your job it won't be worth the difference
For gaming, its not really worth the price increase (and you'd have to overclock it to match the 4790k's stock performance in a lot of games anyway). Depends how serious you are about video editing. You're looking at probably a ~$300 price increase, overall.
Inferno313
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It is my job, but I work in an office, so this would only be for working from home / the occasional personal project. So I think I'll just stick wight he 4790k.
Those of you getting the X99 platform are going to be getting monster CPUs.
I am capturing gameplay @ 1080p60fps to my HDD, streaming to my Twitch channel at 1080p30fps, and watching the stream myself...
CPU usage has not broken 78% with all of this going on (I have a 4930k).
What a beast
Alienware relaunches Area 51 desktop:
Prebuilt etc etc...but it looks cool
I want to know what motherboard that is that allows spacing between each card
I am capturing gameplay @ 1080p60fps to my HDD, streaming to my Twitch channel at 1080p30fps, and watching the stream myself...
CPU usage has not broken 78% with all of this going on (I have a 4930k).
What a beast
Alienware relaunches Area 51 desktop:
Prebuilt etc etc...but it looks cool
I want to know what motherboard that is that allows spacing between each card
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
$220 is the cheapest 16GB DDR4 you will find (ranging up to $350). And the cheapest X99 motherboard is $210 (ranging up to $400 and $500 for the deluxe models). Basically add $50 not just for the 5820K, but + $50 for the X99 board and +50 for the DDR4.
edit: the ram price is only true for 2400, If you go 2133 it should be cheaper.
Can't believe I just spend $320 on 16GB Corsair LPX ram. The cheaper one I was planning to buy won't shipped until 9/11. I won't have the patience to wait while the CPU and MB is on the way here.
It's probably a X99 MB. The Asus Deluxe that I getting allows 5 GPUs so if you space them out it would look like that.
PjotrStroganov
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Daw. My Club3d 290 came with a broken fin on one of the fans. Had it installed and all.
What's your X99 rig looking like?
Just upgrading to a 5930K with Asus X99 Deluxe. Also, following you by getting white braided EVGA cables.
Vulcano's assistant
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You sure about that? Not the Asus WS? I didn't think any MB allowed 5, but if one did I guess the X99 WS would make the most sense.
If that's the case then that is a potential game changer for me.
Edit: that board looks to be blue unless that is from the LEDs. I wonder if it's an Intel
The Asus Deluxe 5 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16, x16/x16, x16/x16/x8, x8/x8/x16/x8, x8/x8/x8/x8/x8 mode).
I've decided to build a 100% dedicated streaming rig and due to space limitations this is going to have to be a Mini-ITX build. My first ever.
The first port of call has been to refer to mckenyon's small form factor guide which has been great so far.
I've settled on the Coolermaster 130 Elite as my case as this fits perfectly into my existing gaming area.
This is where things get tricky though:
I'm really struggling to find an IvyBridge Mobo that I can use which would enable me to use the Liver Gamer HD so I'm asking for PC Gaf's help on this one.
I'd also like to be able to output to two monitors - one for stream chat and one for other tasks while I am live (actual gameplay is on a third monitor linked direct to the gaming rig) so again I'm not sure if that means I also need a graphics card to do this or if there is a Mobo with dual HDMI that also has the PCI-Express x1.
Any help or advice on all of this would be really appreciated.
actually....reading around it is looking like I am going to have to go mATX, is there anything similiar in size to the CoolerMaster 130?
The first port of call has been to refer to mckenyon's small form factor guide which has been great so far.
I've settled on the Coolermaster 130 Elite as my case as this fits perfectly into my existing gaming area.
This is where things get tricky though:
- I have the AverMedia Live Gamer HD as my capture card (already owned) which uses a PCI-Express x1 connection.
- I also have an i53570K LGA1155 CPU that I can use
I'm really struggling to find an IvyBridge Mobo that I can use which would enable me to use the Liver Gamer HD so I'm asking for PC Gaf's help on this one.
I'd also like to be able to output to two monitors - one for stream chat and one for other tasks while I am live (actual gameplay is on a third monitor linked direct to the gaming rig) so again I'm not sure if that means I also need a graphics card to do this or if there is a Mobo with dual HDMI that also has the PCI-Express x1.
Any help or advice on all of this would be really appreciated.
actually....reading around it is looking like I am going to have to go mATX, is there anything similiar in size to the CoolerMaster 130?
HolyBaikal
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So when should I expect Broadwell? I heard in another thread that Broadwell might not be coming to PCs.
But I'm really excited to have a 14 nm CPU.
But I'm really excited to have a 14 nm CPU.
It will be. It'll be out sometime next year.
Despite having a theoretical Z97 build ready and waiting to go (just waiting on GTX 8xx news), I'd kept the door open to X99 depending on reviews and pricing. CPU and RAM aren't too bad here in Kiwi Land. $100 extra for each, but WOW at those motherboard prices. At least twice the price of the Z97 board I had in mind. Guess it's Z97 for me, even if the obsessive side of me is fighting the crazy urge to have The New Tech.
Top is the X99 deluxe. So for there to be space between each card they would need to be placed into slot 1, slot 4, and slot 7? This would use the PLX chip and the CPU...which could be a problem?
adamantypants
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What are you planning on doing with this build? X99 is for crazy people
or those with deep pockets
Pharaoh 117
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Thanks, man. Any specific model you'd recommend?
Hi guys, i want to upgrade my pc, my current specs are:
HD 7770 Ghost edition
i7-2600
8gb ram
monitor: 720p (I game on a tv)
... and i dont know what else to list? xD
Anyway, i want to upgrade my video card and im thinking about a r9 270x, but i dunno if get a 2gb or 4gb version? also i live in mexico and those cards are like 250 dollars here, is the price ok?
2gb vs 4gb
edit: forgot to list the prices
2gb card->3,000 mexican $ (230 dollars)
4gb card->3,700 mexican $ (285 dollars)
I think they are a bit expensive? anyway is there any place in San Antonio, Texas that i cand find a video card in-store? does best buy stock video cards?.
HD 7770 Ghost edition
i7-2600
8gb ram
monitor: 720p (I game on a tv)
... and i dont know what else to list? xD
Anyway, i want to upgrade my video card and im thinking about a r9 270x, but i dunno if get a 2gb or 4gb version? also i live in mexico and those cards are like 250 dollars here, is the price ok?
2gb vs 4gb
edit: forgot to list the prices
2gb card->3,000 mexican $ (230 dollars)
4gb card->3,700 mexican $ (285 dollars)
I think they are a bit expensive? anyway is there any place in San Antonio, Texas that i cand find a video card in-store? does best buy stock video cards?.
Alright received and installed my cooler master seidon 240m. Using HWMonitor my temps seem pretty good idling at 27-31c but whenever I open a program or pop a new tab up they all jump to the low 40's for a split second. The temp doesn't stay that high for very long and right back to regular temps.
Played a few games and reached around like 55C which seems alright. It also seems my CPU now is always at its peak boost clock of 3.7GHz never had that with my old heatsink.
Should it be safe to go forward and try and OC it marginally or should I wait a bit and let the TIM cure?
Played a few games and reached around like 55C which seems alright. It also seems my CPU now is always at its peak boost clock of 3.7GHz never had that with my old heatsink.
Should it be safe to go forward and try and OC it marginally or should I wait a bit and let the TIM cure?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Those of you getting the X99 platform are going to be getting monster CPUs.
I am capturing gameplay @ 1080p60fps to my HDD, streaming to my Twitch channel at 1080p30fps, and watching the stream myself...
CPU usage has not broken 78% with all of this going on (I have a 4930k).
What a beast
Alienware relaunches Area 51 desktop:
Prebuilt etc etc...but it looks cool
I want to know what motherboard that is that allows spacing between each card
I had an Aurora from them - got a crazy good deal from the outlet; ended up getting a brand-new (legitimately) system for a hair over $700 shipped. The CPU and video card alone, at the time (920 & 5870) ran almost that much.
Anyway, though... Horrible, horrible build quality. Crappy components (shit mobo, RAM, PSU), cable wiring was a disaster, and so many proprietary pieces keeping everything running (whole seperate board from the power button to the MOBO to run the lights).
Never again.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Best Buy should probably have 2GB models. Ask the employees, though, they may keep more models in storage.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
So my parents have asked me to upgrade their PC and I have come up with the following:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£43.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£53.82 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£55.96 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.54 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £261.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-30 23:42 BST+0100
Zero gaming and just general light use browsing/email/online banking etc.
I will also get a new case (Fractal Design Core 1300) and save the optical and HDD for possible use. They have a full retail copy of Windows 7.
Should last them a few years and be responsive, right? Current PC only has 2GB DDR2 and is thrashing the HDD. Upgrading it to 4GB would cost £55-60 alone.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£43.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£53.82 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£55.96 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.54 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £261.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-30 23:42 BST+0100
Zero gaming and just general light use browsing/email/online banking etc.
I will also get a new case (Fractal Design Core 1300) and save the optical and HDD for possible use. They have a full retail copy of Windows 7.
Should last them a few years and be responsive, right? Current PC only has 2GB DDR2 and is thrashing the HDD. Upgrading it to 4GB would cost £55-60 alone.
I bought my GPU from amazonglobal.com and paid around $40 extra for a $140 GTX 750ti, ships in 10 days.
R9 270x 2GB is $195
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B3WTWXU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
R9 270 2GB is $165
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0D81OG/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Edit: make sure your power supply is enough and that it fits in your case
The prices you posted seem about right. I've seen Americans complain about their prices and I just laugh and then cry about it, they don't know how lucky they are (my PC is worth $1000 and I paid around $1400).
schandmann
Member
I guess I should OC the Pentium in that scenario, right? Aaaand suddenly it's much more expensive than I thought it would be.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $661.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-30 17:40 EDT-0400
Any way I could do this cheaper?
I've been using this as my main monitor for a while now and I haven't had any noticeable input lag experiences. I play every genre of game under the sun as well. It's probably one of the best monitors I've ever owned. Just wait until you see the step up from 1080p, prepare your jaw
Well, I ordered the monitor, then found out about an updated PB278QR model, cancelled my order, and then found out the QR doesn't seem to be coming to any US markets. I care because QR model is PWM-free and PWM-induced flicker bothers me when reading. Damnit all.
oooh thanks, ill check that page, any experience with used video cards?
welp i just checked and at the end its the same price than here lol, i guess i'll wait and see if i can get one next week on a best buy.
Quick update on the mATX build:
Thermaltake Armor A30 Micro-ATX/Mini-ITX Modular Case SCRAPPED - replaced with Lian-Li case below
Lian Li PC-V355B Aluminium Micro ATX Cube Case - Black
ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Motherboard
450W Full Modular Silent Power Supply 80+ GOLD
Corsair Memory Vengeance Jet Black 8GB DDR3 1866 MHz CAS 9-10-9-27 Dual Channel
Samsung MZ-7TE120BW 840 EVO 120GB Basic SSD SATA 3 7mm UltraSlim 2.5"
Are there any glaring problems with this build?
The Pro4-M has an HDMI out as well as a VGA out (at least I think it does) so would this be ok to feed to two monitors?
I'm assuming the AverMedia Live Gamer HD would slot into one of the available PCI-E slots and I could always drop in a graphics card if required as well I believe if needed later on.
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Thermaltake Armor A30 Micro-ATX/Mini-ITX Modular Case SCRAPPED - replaced with Lian-Li case below
Lian Li PC-V355B Aluminium Micro ATX Cube Case - Black
ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Motherboard
450W Full Modular Silent Power Supply 80+ GOLD
Corsair Memory Vengeance Jet Black 8GB DDR3 1866 MHz CAS 9-10-9-27 Dual Channel
Samsung MZ-7TE120BW 840 EVO 120GB Basic SSD SATA 3 7mm UltraSlim 2.5"
Are there any glaring problems with this build?
The Pro4-M has an HDMI out as well as a VGA out (at least I think it does) so would this be ok to feed to two monitors?
I'm assuming the AverMedia Live Gamer HD would slot into one of the available PCI-E slots and I could always drop in a graphics card if required as well I believe if needed later on.
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Mostly gaming, with the odd bit of streaming and video editing For Fun (at least for now), so X99 likely isn't worth it for me. Still, common sense rarely works against the New Tech Cravings ;P
Literally the reason I went ITX, no expansion slots to add a super expensive soundcard, another GPU, and various other PCIe things lol. 4790K/Z97 ftw
Because it's significantly faster and can upgrade to an overclockable i7 if extra threads are ever used.
TC McQueen
Member
The price/performance ratio is really good for a dual core CPU. And given the lack of game related software that effectively uses multicore processors, sacrificing some future proofing for high clock speeds and low price isn't a bad bet.
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