Evo is the better SSD and it is cheaper so an easy choice.
Just get whatever is cheapest. If that's the Evo so be it. Both are great drives. Plus you also get FC4 which sweetens the deal even more. No brainer.
Evo > *
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB for $189 or Crucial MX100 512GB for $189? Any major difference performance wise?
Right now I've got a WD Caviar Black 750GB as my main storage drive with a 840 EVO 256GB with the OS and apps, but I'm finding thats getting more crammed with stuff as time has gone on and I end up downloading more games but not deleting them.
I'm planning on a new PC early next year, been running a dual core 8600 since 2009 and tided myself over with a graphics card upgrade to a 6950 a couple of years ago. Money is an object (£1500 is my upmost limit for budget and I'd like to spend £250ish of that on a new monitor), but I'd rather spend more now than spend less and then in a couple of years feel like I should have bit the bullet on a more than 4 core cpu. There seems to be overall very little interest in >4 core chips in this thread. I'm deciding on whether to build around a 5820K or 4690K. Any advice to help me make up my mind would be much appreciated.
Edit: I'll rephrase.
I'm designing a rig for my cousin.
This is what I'm looking at so far:
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258
Motherboard: ASRock B85M
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 1600Mhz 8GB (2x4GB)
GPU: EVGA GTX 750 Ti
Power Supply: Antec VP450
Storage: Western Digital Black 1TB 7200RPM
Current Specs: None
Budget: Roughly $500.
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Specific Games: Civ: Beyond Earth, Wasteland 2 - 1080p, 30fps
Timeframe: Over the next couple months, looking for sales from Black Friday through January.
Overclocking: Ideally.
After the initial build, he may be able to do things like slot in a better CPU and GPU over time. He already has the case, so that's why I was trying to find a CPU fan in the original version of the post. PCPartPicker says the much loved Cooler Master 212 Evo isn't compatible with that case, so I'm mainly looking for a fan recommendation. If the case is uniformly terrible and I should tell him to return the case and pick something else in the MicroATX space, please voice your opinion.
So, I've got some old DDR3 1600 (4x2) ram that I was hoping I could just carry over to my new rig, but since I got that big deal on the i7 and jumped on it, the ram is going to be a severe bottleneck. The build guides recommend 1866+ for haswell.
That's a 100+ I was hoping I wouldn't have to spend.
Has anyone tried to install the Team Xtreem LV 16GB DDR3 ram with the Hyper 212 Evo? Do they fit?
You can use that RAM. High speed RAM is recommended, but not required. How much of an impact there is will be related to the programs and games you use. This Anandtech test shows that improved memory speed amounts to a 5% difference in the tested games. Of course, there are other applications that can make use of higher speed memory (Battlefield, or media production and computational tasks) but if you already have 8GB of DDR3-1600, it's totally understandable to not want to shell out $137 for high speed RAM.
Those are extremely tall RAM sticks. It'll be impossible to install in the slot closest to the CPU, while the 2nd most slot might not work. Only the 3rd and 4th slots, farthest from the CPU, will be clear to install in for sure. The problem is that you need to install the sticks in the configuration listed on this page (Dual-channel with two DIMMs) to make it work in dual channel mode for added performance. If you haven't already bought it, I highly recommend the cheaper 16GB Patriot Viper 3 low profile DDR3-2133 for $137, or if you absolutely need DDR3-2400, there's G.Skill Ares low profile DDR3-2400 for $167.
The parts look alright. You can link your PCPartPicker build here with the "permalink" or the "export/markup" links.
Is that Fractal case the older model or the newer version with USB 3.0? Your motherboard has header for USB 3.0, so it might be nice to get front USB 3.0 ports without having to reach around to the back. Good call on that power supply, it's extremely low priced after rebate but has one good review stating how it's unexpected high quality.
For mATX cases that fit the 212 Evo (159mm tall), there's the Cooler Master N200 for $40 or the more premium-looking Corsair 350D for $60. Both are said to support CPU coolers up to 160mm, and there are multiple reports from owners of both cases that the 212 Evo fits their case.
So apparently everyone buys windows 8 keys from reddit?
Do I need an account there, or is there some other site I can use?
Yeah, that's a thinly veiled suggestion. It's up to you if you want to spend the money for it.At this point I feel like I'd like to move up, you know? Plus, I feel like having my ram in a 4x2GB layout was kinda dumb. It is a 6 year old PC though.
Is that a recommendation there at the end? Seems like a good price.
Heh, I'm Canadian as well, I just default to US parts and prices for recommending to most people here. In Canada, that model of Patriot RAM goes for $168 CAD.Thanks a lot for the tips. I haven't bought them yet.
I think I'm gonna get the Patriots you linked. I'm in Canada, and the G.Skill Ares are over $215 here.
I'll wait and see if any good deals pop up on Cyber Monday
Thanks for the help. He may just have to put up with using the Core 1000 he has on hand; it's the newer version with USB 3.0.
Buying a Z97 motherboard so he could even overclock is probably a higher priority than using something besides stock cooling (at first), so he can wait on that. PCPartPicker lists other Cooler Master fans, such as the TX3 or D92, as being compatible with that case and they're similar in price. I'll try to see if he can pick up the power supply while the rebate is available.
Permalink here.
So apparently everyone buys windows 8 keys from reddit?
Do I need an account there, or is there some other site I can use?
Actually, Asus, ASrock, Gigabyte and MSI have H81/B85/H87/H97 motherboards that can do overclocking. That includes the ASrock B85M you selected. Just don't expect those motherboards to overclock as well as Z87/Z97 motherboards because they're not built with overclocking and/or only have simple 4 power phase. Some have reported being able to get up to 4.5GHz stably, though.
Here's some reference for overclocking the G3258 on non-Z87/Z97 motherboards.
Now that I can see the prices you're paying, there are some suggestions to make. You can save money on RAM, $80 is expensive. I recommend either of the following two kits.
8GB Team Vulcan DDR3-1600 for $55 - low cost, same speed as the one you selected.
8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1866 for $48 after $10 combo discount with G3258 processor - I think this deal is the best, it's the lowest cost with a Newegg bundle discount.
i done did it, reference 970 is pretty
Buying keys from Reddit (at least from the once popular sellers) has been banned because those sellers were abusing keys meant for educational use.
Thank you for all your help. I've updated the list with your suggestions. I didn't realize it was possible to overclock outside of the Z97 motherboards either.
Wow, awesome. But why did the previous one not come to the US? Grr.For all you who are building small form factor builds, here is a new GPU choice...a Direct CU Mini 970 from Asus. Pretty sweet!
Here is the article: http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-...0-DirectCU-Mini-More-Mini-ITX-Gaming-Goodness
How much is the 500GB?For those interested, the Samsung 840 EVO 1TB is at 349$ at amazon!
How much is the 500GB?
I just got my 120GB last year... what a difference...
Would a 550W PSU be enough to power an R9 280X GPU and an i7-4790s?
Ok, new gaming PC time this Christmas! But I've been out of the system building scene for a while now. I've only had room for gaming laptops before, but my new house has an office so I can finally go back to Desktop gaming.
Basically looking to build a gaming rig that's going to last me a good 3-4 years. Looking to play current games pretty much maxed out of course, might as well go for it right?
The spec I've had some assistance with so far is this,
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£109.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£133.03 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£127.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£69.68 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£265.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case (£62.87 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£118.04 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer (£11.89 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.35 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1138.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
In a year or two I can always stick another 970 in to make sure it can keep up with the latest releases.
I'm not really planning on overclocking the CPU right away, so for the time being I'm just sticking with the stock cooler. Again, that's always something that's pretty easy to change in 1 or 2 years time.
Any further advice or recommendations is welcome of course, that's why I'm posting, though I don't really want to stretch the budget anywhere past £1,200-£1,300.
We'll give you $400 4K monitors if we can have your single-payer healthcare system. Sounds like a good deal to me!
Which benchmarking program should I be using for GPU OCs? I'm going to see what I can get from my 970, as Witcher 2 (I can't believe GOG just gave that game away for free) saw a dip into the mid 40s in a cutscene/conversation and I thought I might as well look into it. Ubersampling is off, because that game seems to be quite demanding.
i done did it, reference 970 is pretty
What are the better AMD video card manufacturers?
You should rather pity anyone who buys it. It has 35 ms input lag.
That's a water cooler for small cases.. haven't seen one of those before. What case do you have, and what processor are you cooling?
Asetek no longer sells products directly to the product, and that cooler has been discontinued.
Well my hemming and hawing has led to the 500gig Samsung evo being sold out on amazon. Oh well. Fingers crossed prices just keep going down. Might get one early next year.
Anyone looking or know someone who is looking for a 770 4GB? Selling it for 220 shipped.
Eh I want to bite, but the GPU solutions currently available would make the games run at 30-40 FPS and medium settings. I'll wait a few years and than hopefully tech will catch up so I can run butter in SLI.
I thought r/SoftwareSwap no longer allowed the selling of Windows keys?