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[Hupsel]

Im finally close to finishing my PC. Got a EVGA GeForce 1070 SC, bought a 500W PSU, new keyboard, new mouse... everything is brand new so far. I am still using a 1080p 60hz monitor, which is good, but I´ve been thinking about getting this monitor here:

https://www.asus.com/br/Monitors/ROG_SWIFT_PG278Q/.

The 2k resolution looks very cool, as well as 144hz. The main problems are size and price, of course. I honestly would have preferred a 24' one, since my desk isnt that big and Im afraid a monitor that big would burn my eyes lol. And yeah, it´s pricey. Here in Brazil it costs around 3800 reais, which is around 1000USD :<

 

[Kudo]

I... Turned the cable around and it worked. Haha. So, it's alive! Next problem! Detecting the m.2 SSD... Or not.

https://imgur.com/a/zylpJ

Skylake has dropped the official support for Windows 7, you can still install it if you modify the USB or have it on DVD, but just saying this just in case you didn't know.
The m.2 problem could be something else though, probably a setting in BIOS.

Set your SATA Express mode to M.2 in BIOS maybe?

 

[Mister_Bubbles]

Skylake has dropped the official support for Windows 7, you can still install it if you modify the USB or have it on DVD, but just saying this just in case you didn't know.
The m.2 problem could be something else though, probably a setting in BIOS.

Set your SATA Express mode to M.2 in BIOS maybe?

I'm installing Windows 10, from DVD

 

[fluffydelusions]

Get msi afterburner and make your own curve.

If I'm reading your picture right, the fan is at 32% when it is 73c

Which seems weird because it shouldn't according to this:

EDIT: didn't know I had to have the software to remain opened...Here it is now while playing

 

[Kudo]

I'm installing Windows 10, from DVD

Ah, thought that was Windows 7 cause the menu looked familiar, but I guess Windows 10 uses that same style in installer.
But check your BIOS for the SATA Express setting, I'm not sure if it should detect the M.2 device before that's changed but nothing lost in trying.

 

[Mister_Bubbles]

Set your SATA Express mode to M.2 in BIOS maybe?

That did it! Thank you very much.

 

[Kudo]

That did it!

Grats!
One thing to note is that when using M.2 the motherboard disables the 2 first SATA ports, so if you have traditional HDDs/SSDs remember to use the 4 at bottom.
Now time to get that Windows installed and then you can start enjoying your new machine, good luck!

 

[Karl2177]

Got the upgrade itch. Going from a 2500k to a 6700k. Mostly gaming. Have a couple questions:

Ram speed/latency/timing - anything in particular I should be aiming for? I'm looking at 16/32 GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V series at 3200.

Win 10 - is it tied to my current motherboard? Thought I read that somewhere - I'd like to continue using my existing copy - it will only be used on new PC.

Thanks

I would like to know this too.

 

[TheSeks]

I would like to know this too.

AFAIK, yeah it's tied. But you can call Microsoft tell them you upgraded your PC parts and they'll reactivate the license for your new hardware.

 

[knerl]

I would like to know this too.

I did this recently and it was as easy as entering the same key from within windows 10 and voila! Didn't have to reinstall or anything; Just pick up from where I left off on my old motherboard.

 

[aasoncott]

Thinking of finally replacing my aging GTX 660. I originally build the machine in 2010 -- it has a i5 750 (2.66 GHz quad-core), 12gb 8gb DDR3-1333, and is running on a Gigabyte P55A-UD3P.

1) Yes, my machine is six years old. But I rarely seem to be CPU-bound on anything. Can I get away with continuing to run DDR3-1333 RAM and an i5 750, and just upgrade the video card, or is that a waste of money at this point?

2) If I can get away with just upgrading the video card, I'd like to do it as cheaply as possible. The bestest cheapest option seems to be the EVGA GTX 1060 cards, but there's quite a price jump between the 3gb and 6gb models. Would I regret just getting the 3gb? Is that going to severely limit me in some way?

 

[V1LÆM]

Supported RAM speed depends on the motherboard, not the CPU. There are plenty of z170 boards that support 4133 MHz RAM.

You want the fastest RAM at the lowest CAS latency and voltage for a given price.

well my motherboard supports up to 3600 but with my cpu overclocked + 3200 it becomes unstable. maybe if the cpu wasn't overclocked then i could run my ram at 3200.

 

[Harpua]

Thanks for the feedback on the ram and ability to use my existing copy of Windows on a new MB.

This is what I currently have:
CPU: i5 2500k 4.5
Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Plus
RAM: 16 GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600
MB: ASUS P8P67 Pro
GPU: MSI Gaming 1070
PSU: Seasonic X-750
Case: Fractal R5
HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500 gb (another SSD and various HDD)
Monitor: Dell S2716DG

This is what I'm thinking of upgrading to:
CPU: i7 6700k
Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX
RAM: 16/32 GB G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200
MB: ASUS Maximus VII Hero


I plan to re-use everything else. I'm primarily using for gaming and want to get the most out of my 1440p 144hz GSync monitor.

Any changes to above - or should I even pull the trigger? Going to cost my about $700. Doesn't sound like Kaby Lake is going to offer a lot more if I wait and I'd like to max out BF1 when it's released. I also see an M.2 drive in my future.

Thanks again.

 

[lostsupper]

well my motherboard supports up to 3600 but with my cpu overclocked + 3200 it becomes unstable. maybe if the cpu wasn't overclocked then i could run my ram at 3200.

Have you increased voltage to the RAM? If so and it still doesn't run at its advertised speed you should return it.

 

[TheSeks]

2) If I can get away with just upgrading the video card, I'd like to do it as cheaply as possible. The bestest cheapest option seems to be the EVGA GTX 1060 cards, but there's quite a price jump between the 3gb and 6gb models. Would I regret just getting the 3gb? Is that going to severely limit me in some way?

If you're wanting to run PS4-era titles, yeah it'll limit you. A bunch of titles out now want at least 4Gig VRAM.

 

[Rufus]

If you're wanting to run PS4-era titles, yeah it'll limit you. A bunch of titles out now want at least 4Gig VRAM.

For certain texture settings. No game that I know of refuses to run at all with less then 4GB. That said, you're best of getting more than 4GB. It's worth the extra money.

 

[e90Mark]

well my motherboard supports up to 3600 but with my cpu overclocked + 3200 it becomes unstable. maybe if the cpu wasn't overclocked then i could run my ram at 3200.

Sounds like your cpu's memory controller isn't the best.

I'm at 4.6 on my 6700k with 16GB @ 3200.

 

[Nostremitus]

This is a great monitor for both gaming and graphic design as it covers 100% of the sRGB color space. If you want a monitor that's good for both games and graphic design, this is a pretty good pick.

You'll have to ask yourself which you care more about regarding this purchase: gaming or print design. Gaming is all about high refresh rates (and lately FreeSync/G-Sync) and low response time, while photography and print design is about wider color gamuts at the expense of lower refresh rates and higher response time.

Covering the Adobe RGB gamut is important for print work but gaming monitors don't advertise the Adobe RGB coverage (because it's not important for games). It seems that your pick covers 81% of the Adobe RGB gamut (photography-centric monitors should cover over 99%). But this is a compromise we have to live with.

Thanks. I'm looking at that one because it seems the most well rounded that checks the most boxes. It has an sRGB color mode so I'm assuming that mode limits FPS in favor of better color accuracy, not sure though...

Most of the Adobe RGB monitors I've seen are either way more expensive or have few other features besides their color gamut. It's a get what you pay for scenario, I suppose...


Thank you for helping. I feel better about it; I ordered one. I think she'll love it.

 

[pa22word]

So DX MD has finally hammered my CPU to the point upgrading is a necessity for me now.

Is kabylake worth waiting on, or is it just going to be a pure refresh of skylake like everyone was thinking a few months ago? I know it has some new features on the backend that seem nifty, but if perf is just going to be the same I might as well upgrade now.

 

[DeathGlobe]

anyone have the Phanteks Eclipse Series P400 Steel case with a gigabyte z170xp mind showing me where there motherboard is screwed along with the proper screws? I think i may be missing one

 

[Staccat0]

What is the cheapest wireless keyboard/mouse I should be fucking with for couch gaming? I'm about 6 feet away from the PC. My current Microsoft cheapie is a little laggy.

Thing is that I only use a keyboard and mouse for stuff like Kerbal or simulators. So I don't want a "gamers" set up for twitch gaming.

 

[fluffydelusions]

So anyone else with the 1060 SC what kind of temps do you get while gaming?

 

[Dartastic]

I have Acer 23" S231HL. I can pick up an Acer XB240H for $240. I've been experiencing some screen tearing and stuff since I got my 1070, and I'm thinking that getting this monitor might help it. Plus, I only have a single monitor setup right now. What do you guys think about that deal? Is it worth picking up? The new monitor has gsync and a refresh rate of 144hz...

 

[gotoadgo]

I have Acer 23" S231HL. I can pick up an Acer XB240H for $240. I've been experiencing some screen tearing and stuff since I got my 1070, and I'm thinking that getting this monitor might help it. Plus, I only have a single monitor setup right now. What do you guys think about that deal? Is it worth picking up? The new monitor has gsync and a refresh rate of 144hz...

G-Sync eliminates tearing completely. If that's your biggest issue then I'd recommend it. I recently got an ASUS PG278Q and it's amazing not having to bother with frame rates and refresh rates, you just play.

 

[super-famicom]

So anyone else with the 1060 SC what kind of temps do you get while gaming?

With Overwatch and The Witcher 3, among other games (both on Ultra), I don't go higher than 64-65 Celsius. This is in a room that's a bit hotter than the rest of the house, so it's maybe 80 Fahrenheit at the lowest, 95 highest. I did set a custom fan curve through Afterburner.

 

[fluffydelusions]

With Overwatch and The Witcher 3 (both on Ultra), I don't go higher than 64-65 Celsius.

Is that stock fan curve settings or custom? Stock with overwatch I'm hitting 75c while if I do aggressive it is low to mid 50s

Edit: saw you edited your post lol with fan curve

 

[super-famicom]

Is that stock fan curve settings or custom? Stock with overwatch I'm hitting 75c while if I do aggressive it is low to mid 50s

Edit: saw you edited your post lol with fan curve

Yeah, I'll post a pic of it later but it's set to 0% from 0-35 degrees, but by 70 degrees it's at 70 or 80%. I think I was pretty aggressive with the curve at 50%. And I didn't apply any overclock yet.

 

[Mononoaware]

Hi again...I have another question regarding framerates vs resolution.

I'm looking to probably get a new monitor when I get a new video card next month. What I'm wondering is...what would be the better choice to go in right now? A 1440 monitor with high hz, or a 4k monitor?

What would be I get the most out of if I got a gtx 1080 for example? I don't read about it a lot, but I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing 4k gaming if I want a good framerate too, so maybe 1440 is what I should aim for, but I'd like some opinions.

 

[Echoes]

I have Acer 23" S231HL. I can pick up an Acer XB240H for $240. I've been experiencing some screen tearing and stuff since I got my 1070, and I'm thinking that getting this monitor might help it. Plus, I only have a single monitor setup right now. What do you guys think about that deal? Is it worth picking up? The new monitor has gsync and a refresh rate of 144hz...

Yep. A few pages ago I said that I was disappointed with my 144hz g-sync monitor, but I realised that I went from a 60hz screen (primarily design work on a Mac; never gamed on it) to a 144hz monitor. So now I just tried Doom 4 on my 60hz screen, after 20 hours on my 144hz screen at 130+ frames, and the difference is staggering. Definitely worth the jump.

I can't vouch for this specific monitor (read up reviews!) but going from 60hz to 144hz with g-sync should be a great upgrade for you. Nothing would top that.

Hi again...I have another question regarding framerates vs resolution.

I'm looking to probably get a new monitor when I get a new video card next month. What I'm wondering is...what would be the better choice to go in right now? A 1440 monitor with high hz, or a 4k monitor?

What would be I get the most out of if I got a gtx 1080 for example? I don't read about it a lot, but I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing 4k gaming if I want a good framerate too, so maybe 1440 is what I should aim for, but I'd like some opinions.

I faced this exact same dilemma when I built my PC a couple of weeks ago: do I shoot for 2K comfortably or do I want 4K? I went with 2K + 144hz + 1080. While the 1080 is a slight overkill for 2K gaming (the 1070 is good enough), I wanted to future proof myself for a few years with it while gaming on high~max settings with new games.

For example, I run Doom 4 at 110~180 frames (2K). At 4K the game runs 40~80 for me. Definitly great, but it'd be pretty tough to get high fps down the line as games will only be more demanding. I also highly prefer doubling the frames (since the movement will feel very smooth and fluid on a 144hz monitor) over 4K 60fps. So instead of going with 4K now and feeling like I'm barely catching up, I decided to do 2K max settings. I'm happy with this decision.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Yeah, I'll post a pic of it later but it's set to 0% from 0-35 degrees, but by 70 degrees it's at 70 or 80%. I think I was pretty aggressive with the curve at 50%. And I didn't apply any overclock yet.

Ya I just did the aggressive preset and playing overwatch just now was at 46c but a bit cooler here. 64f outside at the moment.

 

[Echoes]

I'm wondering about my current GPU OC. These are my current settings, and the temperature doesn't get too hot with my custom fan curve:

Doom 4 (2K, max) running for a few hours. The temp hovers between 60 and 61 under load. Would it be safe to increase the core clock more, considering everything is stable so far?

 

[Dartastic]

G-Sync eliminates tearing completely. If that's your biggest issue then I'd recommend it. I recently got an ASUS PG278Q and it's amazing not having to bother with frame rates and refresh rates, you just play.

Yep. A few pages ago I said that I was disappointed with my 144hz g-sync monitor, but I realised that I went from a 60hz screen (primarily design work on a Mac; never gamed on it) to a 144hz monitor. So now I just tried Doom 4 on my 60hz screen, after 20 hours on my 144hz screen at 130+ frames, and the difference is staggering. Definitely worth the jump.

I can't vouch for this specific monitor (read up reviews!) but going from 60hz to 144hz with g-sync should be a great upgrade for you. Nothing would top that.

Thanks guys. It seems like not many people have an actual pro review of this product... looks like I'll go ahead and pick it up, especially as I'm only running a single monitor setup at the time.

 

[Mononoaware]

I faced this exact same dilemma when I built my PC a couple of weeks ago: do I shoot for 2K comfortably or do I want 4K? I went with 2K + 144hz + 1080. While the 1080 is a slight overkill for 2K gaming (the 1070 is good enough), I wanted to future proof myself for a few years with it while gaming on high~max settings with new games.

For example, I run Doom 4 at 110~180 frames (2K). At 4K the game runs 40~80 for me. Definitly great, but it'd be pretty tough to get high fps down the line as games will only be more demanding. I also highly prefer doubling the frames (since the movement will feel very smooth and fluid on a 144hz monitor) over 4K 60fps. So instead of going with 4K now and feeling like I'm barely catching up, I decided to do 2K max settings. I'm happy with this decision.

Thank you very much for the response. It was insightful, and does help give me input on what the differences might be.

I don't know if you know this answer, but if I was to build a PC, and wanted to go the 4k route, what other specs besides the video card should I aim for?

 

[Echoes]

Thanks guys. It seems like not many people have an actual pro review of this product... looks like I'll go ahead and pick it up, especially as I'm only running a single monitor setup at the time.

Worth it to read this too: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/3lhcrd/will_i_regret_purchasing_the_acer_xb240h/

Thank you very much for the response. It was insightful, and does help give me input on what the differences might be.

I don't know if you know this answer, but if I was to build a PC, and wanted to go the 4k route, what other specs besides the video card should I aim for?

Just a GPU that can drive it (with a DisplayPort 1.2 output). You'd want to get a good CPU as to not bottleneck yourself with some of the demanding games out there anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Mononoaware]

Just a GPU that can drive it (with a DisplayPort 1.2 output). You'd want to get a good CPU as to not bottleneck yourself with some of the demanding games out there anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I guess that's what I'd like to know. What kind of CPU wouldn't bottleneck me? I used to feel like I understood PC specs, but things move so fast sometimes, that I always feel out of the loop on what is considered good.

 

[ss_lemonade]

I might upgrade my 780 to a 1070 or 1080 once I'm able to sell my laptop for funds. Has there ever been any models being sold for (or close to) the supposed msrp price?

 

[Momentary]

Fittings and tubing come in Monday. I still have no clue how I'm going to do this loop. This is going to be a rough project.

Also my board has a 4 pin connector labeled for a water pump. The cable on the water pump can't reach it. Couldn't I just connect it to a 4 pin PWM fan plugin?

 

[Echoes]

I guess that's what I'd like to know. What kind of CPU wouldn't bottleneck me? I used to feel like I understood PC specs, but things move so fast sometimes, that I always feel out of the loop on what is considered good.

What are your needs? If it's just gaming, I'd suggest that you wait for someone more knowledgeable to assist you. I wanted something good for gaming and my photography/design work flow (Adobe Lightroom benefits from more cores), so I went with a Skylake 6700K ('K' because I wanted to overclock, and the K models are built with that in mind). The 6700K is much cheaper than the newer CPUs and the clock speed is high enough for my needs. I then got a motherboard that has the features that I want: USB 3.1 (much faster than USB 3), the ability to run two M.2 SSDs, good for overclocking, and handles SLI well. Extra ports etc.

If you're only gaming then the 6700/6700K might be an overkill though, so I'd wait for a better advice.

Rayge: slick build so far!

 

[Mononoaware]

What are your needs? If it's just gaming, I'd suggest that you wait for someone more knowledgeable to assist you. I wanted something good for gaming and my photography/design work flow (Adobe Lightroom benefits from more cores), so I went with a Skylake 6700K ('K' because I wanted to overclock, and the K models are built with that in mind). The 6700K is much cheaper than the newer CPUs and the clock speed is high enough for my needs. I then got a motherboard that has the features that I want: USB 3.1 (much faster than USB 3), the ability to run two M.2 SSDs, good for overclocking, and handles SLI well. Extra ports etc.

If you're only gaming then the 6700/6700K might be an overkill though, so I'd wait for a better advice.

Rayge: slick build so far!

Even if it's not what I need, I still appreciate your input. Thank you.

I suppose I should just say what my "needs" are as...I don't know, I'm just kinda going hardware crazy because I'm tired of these weak ass consoles, and just wanting to jump ship to PC gaming. Especially with so many of the Japanese games I love that used to be console specific coming to PC now. I bet a lot of games I want to play won't NEED a lot of power, but I also like the idea of just having a crazy powerful machine so I can throw anything at it. Forever I've always bought mid range PC parts, and mid range video cards. Last 2 cards were a 560 and 760...fine for some games in their own right, but I never felt like I could get crazy good framerate, and great visuals out of them.

This time I'm just planning on going all out...got a budget of $2000-3000 to throw at whatever I want basically. I also don't want to be stupid though, and spend more than I need to. I don't know if my CPU is competent enough for me to stick with. It's an core i5 3470 @ 3.20 ghz. I do want to up my system ram to at least 16gigs, because I'm only running 8 at the moment.

 

[elhav]

Even if it's not what I need, I still appreciate your input. Thank you.

I suppose I should just say what my "needs" are as...I don't know, I'm just kinda going hardware crazy because I'm tired of these weak ass consoles, and just wanting to jump ship to PC gaming. Especially with so many of the Japanese games I love that used to be console specific coming to PC now. I bet a lot of games I want to play won't NEED a lot of power, but I also like the idea of just having a crazy powerful machine so I can throw anything at it. Forever I've always bought mid range PC parts, and mid range video cards. Last 2 cards were a 560 and 760...fine for some games in their own right, but I never felt like I could get crazy good framerate, and great visuals out of them.

This time I'm just planning on going all out...got a budget of $2000-3000 to throw at whatever I want basically. I also don't want to be stupid though, and spend more than I need to. I don't know if my CPU is competent enough for me to stick with. It's an core i5 3470 @ 3.20 ghz. I do want to up my system ram to at least 16gigs, because I'm only running 8 at the moment.

Your current CPU is great for gaming, don't worry. You don't really need an I7 for gaming. If you insist on getting the best, invest on a great GPU and a nice screen. If you feel like overclocking your CPU go with the 6600k. It's cheaper and will perform about the same in games as the 6700k. If you ever plan on video editing or using some heavy picture editing software you should get an i7 6700k, or even a 6800k, but for gaming it's simply a waste of money at the moment.

 

[Jimrpg]

Hi again...I have another question regarding framerates vs resolution.

I'm looking to probably get a new monitor when I get a new video card next month. What I'm wondering is...what would be the better choice to go in right now? A 1440 monitor with high hz, or a 4k monitor?

What would be I get the most out of if I got a gtx 1080 for example? I don't read about it a lot, but I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing 4k gaming if I want a good framerate too, so maybe 1440 is what I should aim for, but I'd like some opinions.

Its just a matter of dollars and how much you want to spend at this point, knowing that there are diminishing returns everytime you step up to the next resolution and next level of framerates.

The sweet spot for PC gaming right now is 1080p/60fps, you can do that with a GTX 1060 (high/max settings), or a GTX 1070 (max settings). You can probably do a complete build for ~$1000.

If you want to jump up to 1440p/60fps or 4k/60, then its going to cost you more, maybe $1200-1500. Add on your high refresh monitor or 4k monitor, its probably another $500-800, whereas if you just went with a standard 1080p/60hz IPS monitor it would run you $150.

Finally performance requirements on PC aren't 'static' like they are on consoles, as games get better, you may want to upgrade. At the 4k level, its still going to be relatively expensive for the forseeable future. I have a 1440p/144hz monitor, and its going to be a while before I max it out. Personally speaking I think I should have just got a 1080/60 monitor for the time being to save the cash, having said that the 1440p/144hz is pretty nice especially when it comes to things like racing games.

 

[Jimrpg]

Even if it's not what I need, I still appreciate your input. Thank you.

I suppose I should just say what my "needs" are as...I don't know, I'm just kinda going hardware crazy because I'm tired of these weak ass consoles, and just wanting to jump ship to PC gaming. Especially with so many of the Japanese games I love that used to be console specific coming to PC now. I bet a lot of games I want to play won't NEED a lot of power, but I also like the idea of just having a crazy powerful machine so I can throw anything at it. Forever I've always bought mid range PC parts, and mid range video cards. Last 2 cards were a 560 and 760...fine for some games in their own right, but I never felt like I could get crazy good framerate, and great visuals out of them.

This time I'm just planning on going all out...got a budget of $2000-3000 to throw at whatever I want basically. I also don't want to be stupid though, and spend more than I need to. I don't know if my CPU is competent enough for me to stick with. It's an core i5 3470 @ 3.20 ghz. I do want to up my system ram to at least 16gigs, because I'm only running 8 at the moment.

I would just stick a GTX 1070 and another 8gb ram and be done with it. It'll play everything maxed out at 1080p/90fps. That would be the most cost effective upgrade seeing as the CPU is still decent for now. If you got a GTX 1080, it might even do 4k at say high settings for most games.

I don't think you would need to spend $2000-3000 on a computer.

 

[Dartastic]

I would just stick a GTX 1070 and another 8gb ram and be done with it. It'll play everything maxed out at 1080p/90fps. That would be the most cost effective upgrade seeing as the CPU is still decent for now. If you got a GTX 1080, it might even do 4k at say high settings for most games.

I don't think you would need to spend $2000-3000 on a computer.

Totally. I agree.

 

[Mononoaware]

Thank you very much for the feedback guys. Makes a lot of sense what you're saying, and I will take it to heart. I think I will stick with my current PC then, but at least get a new video card, more ram, and maybe a new monitor.

If I was going to go with a 4k monitor, do they still do 1440 resolution fine as well? Are there any 4k monitors that also offer the higher refresh rate, and/or gsync perhaps?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

On hazs pc build for best overall/enthusiast, I'm curious what he means on the comments for the heatsink for the cpu? Does it mean his build also requires you to get another heatsink for the cpu and one for the gpu?

 

[Bloodember]

On hazs pc build for best overall/enthusiast, I'm curious what he means on the comments for the heatsink for the cpu? Does it mean his build also requires you to get another heatsink for the cpu and one for the gpu?

He's giving you two options, one air cooler and one water cooler.

 

[Atraveller]

On hazs pc build for best overall/enthusiast, I'm curious what he means on the comments for the heatsink for the cpu? Does it mean his build also requires you to get another heatsink for the cpu and one for the gpu?

GPU has its own fans and heat sink. Stock cooler that came with CPU is fine if you don't overclock or don't care about noise.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

He's giving you two options, one air cooler and one water cooler.

GPU has its own fans and heat sink. Stock cooler that came with CPU is fine if you don't overclock or don't care about noise.

All right thanks guys.

I guess that now I gotta decide on whether I take the plunge with this or go with one of the custom built pcs offered on amazon instead. Like I'm sure there has to be a catch because I'm seeing pcs with similar pricing as ones you build part per part.

 

[GodParticle]

Can someone recommend an nvidia graphics card that would be reasonably priced for mostly high 1080 settings @ 60 frames with this setup?

cpu - i5 3570 3.4ghz (is this too outdated?
8gb ram
current card - gtx 660

 

[Bloodember]

Can someone recommend an nvidia graphics card that would be reasonably priced for mostly high 1080 settings @ 60 frames with this setup?

cpu - i5 3570 3.4ghz (is this too outdated?
8gb ram
current card - gtx 660

What do you consider reasonable priced?