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"I Need a New PC!" 2017 The Ryzing of Kaby Lake and NVMwhee!

Hi, everybody. My mom needs a new desktop and I'm trying to find something that suits her needs. I was hoping to get a recommendation from you guys on an appropriate PC to get her.

She mainly uses the computer to browse the internet, download and view Office documents, write Word documents, and store pictures and videos. That's about it. Her current desktop which she has had for about eight years just died recently. She would like something that just suits her needs and isn't slow as molasses like her last computer.

I know absolutely nothing about building computers. Is there a decent pre-built PC I can get for her from an online retailer? Her needs are pretty simple so I don't really see a need to custom build it, but maybe I'm off-base here. She's currently using an old laptop that is very slow and I'd like to get her a new computer as soon as possible. Price range is ideally around $400 but I have no idea if that's enough to get what she needs. I can raise it if need be.

Thank you. I'm sorry this wasn't very specific. Like I said, I'm really out of my depth when it comes to getting a new computer.

Not always with an SSD, but for under $400 there are always some Acer/Lenovo/Dell/etc deals in newegg like this one for $350 (of which the new model is $450 on amazon)

At the i5 7400 level and under (more than sufficient for her needs) it is hard to beat the price of those prebuilds, especially when they are $100 cheaper just by being from last year.

For cheaper one could build a machine with an Intel Pentium G4560, but not one with a i5 processor, since you are spending $180-$199 on a retail i5 6400 or i5 7400.
 

Vuze

Member
Man, Ryzen 5 prices in Europe are not exactly what I was hoping for. I hope there'll be a nice MB + RAM + CPU deal later this year.

Also negative points to AMD for advertising Ryzen with godawful YouTube 'star' LeFloid here in Germany.
 

Mad Max

Member
Man, Ryzen 5 prices in Europe are not exactly what I was hoping for. I hope there'll be a nice MB + RAM + CPU deal later this year.

Also negative points to AMD for advertising Ryzen with godawful YouTube 'star' LeFloid here in Germany.

You can get a Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3 + 1600 for about €366 here in NL, seems like a pretty good deal compare to a 7600k + Cryorig H7 + ASRock Z270 Pro4 for €426.
 
Which Ryzen chip should I be going for if I am going to combine it with a 1440p/144hz monitor, almost exclusively for gaming? I really want to support the Ryzen platform but at the same time I still have to consider the option of just getting a 7700k as well.
 

Mad Max

Member
Which Ryzen chip should I be going for if I am going to combine it with a 1440p/144hz monitor, almost exclusively for gaming? I really want to support the Ryzen platform but at the same time I still have to consider the option of just getting a 7700k as well.

For just gaming: get the 1600X + Cooler if you don't want to overclock or a 1600 if you do. The 7700k is still faster in games though, so if you want the highest possible framerates and don't mind the extra cost, you might want to stick with that.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument
 

ISee

Member
Which Ryzen chip should I be going for if I am going to combine it with a 1440p/144hz monitor, almost exclusively for gaming? I really want to support the Ryzen platform but at the same time I still have to consider the option of just getting a 7700k as well.

Budget is the most important factor here, as always.

In general the r7 1800x (~500€) and the r5 1600x (~300€, you can nearly get an i7 7700 for that price) aren't worth the premium price amd is asking for them. They have a higher standard boost clock but you can achieve similar clocks with cheaper r7 and r5 iterations. For the rest, it's hard to tell especially at higher resolutions as your gpu will be the more decisive and limiting factor here. But people tend to exchange gpu more often then cpus and mbs so looking at 1080p performance makes sense because next gen. gpus should perform at 1440p+ just like current gpus perform at 1080p and you'll most likely just get another gpu then a new gpu, cpu and mb in the next 2-3 years.
Performance wise there aren't huge differences between R7s and R5s when running at similar clock speeds. Even well multi threaded CPU heavy games like Watch_Dogs 2 and Total Warhammer do not favour the r7 over the r5 by a significant amount and clock speed has the bigger impact.

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But multi threading may (and most probably will) become even more important in the future and the r7 has the potential to last longer, just like i7s tend to last longer then their i5 brothers (especially talking about the 2600k vs 2500k). So if you don't care about the extra 100 bucks for an r7 over the r5 too much, go for the 1700/1700x and overclock it a bit. But if you want the best/price performance ratio go for the r5 1500x/1600 and also overclock a bit.

And I'm not even going to touch the i7 vs r7 topic here. We can only speculate how they're going to perform against each other in the future. Will intels single core performace and clock speed still be a valid and strong plus or will amds core amount be the more important factor? Nobody knows because time travel is not a thing. Exciting times for cpu buyers atm. I recently bought a new one and I had trouble choosing (went with the 7700k after some headache), so just follow your guts and suffer. Just like the rest of us. :)
 
For just gaming: get the 1600X + Cooler if you don't want to overclock or a 1600 if you do. The 7700k is still faster in games though, so if you want the highest possible framerates and don't mind the extra cost, you might want to stick with that.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument

And I'm not even going to touch the i7 vs r7 topic here. We can only speculate how they're going to perform against each other in the future. Will intels single core performace and clock speed still be a valid and strong plus or will amds core amount be the more important factor? Nobody knows because time travel is not a thing. Exciting times for cpu buyers atm. I recently bought a new one and I had trouble choosing (went with the 7700k after some headache), so just follow your guts and suffer. Just like the rest of us. :)

Alright, thanks. Gonna have to wrack my brain a bit more over this before I make a decision. If someone invents a time-machine in the meantime, please let me know. :p
 
You dont need to disable anything settings like that.

You set the CPU Core Ratio to 45. Leave the bclk at 100Mhz.
That will give 45x100=4500Mhz.

Set the RAM to 2133Mhz to begin with and the VDIMM to 1.22v.

Set the Vcore to Manual mode, and a value of 1.2v.

In the DIgi Power Settings, set the Load Line Calibration to Level 4 (assuming you are on Asus).

That should easily do 4.5Ghz. then youll want to stress test, most are using Realbench nowadays. Monitor temps with CoreTemp/RealTemp.

If he's running a 7700K that's a lot of effort for 4.5GHz, most motherboards will run 4.5GHz on all cores by default if you enable your XMP profile.
 
I haven't build a PC since 2012. I think it's definitely time to upgrade my core.... stuff.

I'm probably going to get a 7700k. I'd like to pair it with a motherboard that makes overclocking relatively easy (current mobo is the Asus Maximus V Extreme). Or is that not even necessary for the 7700k to hit 4.5Ghz? Do they usually go any higher than that?

The real question is which case and cooler to get. I've never managed to accomplish clean cable management. And I'm thinking about getting one of those water coolers for the CPU but I need to make sure it can fit in the case I get. I've never used one of those before.
 

LilJoka

Member
How is it overvolting the whole system?

Because XMP will generally push quite high VCCIO and VCCSA, and an Auto Vcore with Turbo enhancement on (single core turbo speeds at all core turbo).
Eg on my system a 3000Mhz XMP gives 1.20v VCCSA and VCCIO, and i run 1.07/1.05v instead.
 

ferunnico

Neo Member
What is the best way to play PC games on the TV with a controller? My PC is already hooked up to the TV. My setup currently looks like this:


I've tried using my PS4 controller with a USB Bluetooth adapter, but the distance between PC and couch is apparently long enough for it to have horrible input lag and frequently lose connection.
 
Inquiring about a parts list I put together for my friend (see this post a few pages back)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.79 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card ($240.39 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1384.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 15:09 EDT-0400


I'm second guessing myself on the Ryzen CPU pick. He's only interested in gaming, and looking to make this thing last ~ 3 years, and by then AMD will have a new socket, so he'd have to buy a new motherboard anyhow. Maybe Intel's the way to go?

I opted for the 8GB RX 480, but do you need that much VRAM if you're sticking with 1080p? And the 500 series cards are just re-brands right? No real reason to splurge on the new number?
 
Inquiring about a parts list I put together for my friend (see this post a few pages back)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.79 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card ($240.39 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1384.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 15:09 EDT-0400


I'm second guessing myself on the Ryzen CPU pick. He's only interested in gaming, and looking to make this thing last ~ 3 years, and by then AMD will have a new socket, so he'd have to buy a new motherboard anyhow. Maybe Intel's the way to go?

I opted for the 8GB RX 480, but do you need that much VRAM if you're sticking with 1080p? And the 500 series cards are just re-brands right? No real reason to splurge on the new number?
The AM4 is supposedly going to last 4 generations. The Z270 Intel boards might get you one more generation at best, based on the history.

Why not go with an R5 1600? For another $40 you get two more cores and four more threads. Plus It comes with a cooler and can probably be overclocked to around the 1600X speed.
 

Seronei

Member
The AM4 is supposedly going to last 4 generations. The Z270 Intel boards might get you one more generation at best, based on the history.

Why not go with an R5 1600? For another $40 you get two more cores and four more threads. Plus It comes with a cooler and can probably be overclocked to around the 1600X speed.

1500X comes with the same cooler too. Though dropping the cooler and getting a 1600 feels like a better way to spend money.
 
Inquiring about a parts list I put together for my friend (see this post a few pages back)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.79 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card ($240.39 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1384.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 15:09 EDT-0400


I'm second guessing myself on the Ryzen CPU pick. He's only interested in gaming, and looking to make this thing last ~ 3 years, and by then AMD will have a new socket, so he'd have to buy a new motherboard anyhow. Maybe Intel's the way to go?

I opted for the 8GB RX 480, but do you need that much VRAM if you're sticking with 1080p? And the 500 series cards are just re-brands right? No real reason to splurge on the new number?

The 500 series will almost certainly hit higher clocks, so I would say just wait to see the prices it will be out next week anyways. 4gb is fine for 1080p in my experience.
 

Dave_6

Member
Probably going to upgrade my current PC soon since I'm looking at purchasing a 1080ti. This is my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/fwHxFT I can't seem to edit it but I now have a 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor, Windows 10 and a 500GB Samsung SSD for main storage.

Here is what I'm more than likely upgrading to (not including the GPU). I will be using my current storage, etc for the time being.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.44 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS IX HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($145.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1039.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 15:43 EDT-0400

Thoughts?
 

Mad Max

Member
Inquiring about a parts list I put together for my friend (see this post a few pages back)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($94.79 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card ($240.39 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C with Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1384.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 15:09 EDT-0400


I'm second guessing myself on the Ryzen CPU pick. He's only interested in gaming, and looking to make this thing last ~ 3 years, and by then AMD will have a new socket, so he'd have to buy a new motherboard anyhow. Maybe Intel's the way to go?

I opted for the 8GB RX 480, but do you need that much VRAM if you're sticking with 1080p? And the 500 series cards are just re-brands right? No real reason to splurge on the new number?

Get the R5 1600 instead and drop the cooler, as the stock cooler is pretty good. The only intel CPUs worth buying now are the G4560 (low-end) and the 7700k (high-end gaming).
 
I was thinking about getting the Maximus V Code for my new build, but now I'm trying to figure out what features it has over the Hero and whether or not they're worth it. I don't need wifi....
 
If I'm looking at a 1440p monitor at 60 Hz, what should I expect to spend? It seems like the bare minimum is about $150, but more like $200-$250. Monitors are always so hard for me to pick out...
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
If I'm looking at a 1440p monitor at 60 Hz, what should I expect to spend? It seems like the bare minimum is about $150, but more like $200-$250. Monitors are always so hard for me to pick out...

Looks like Newegg sells 18 1440p 60hz monitors and the cheapest is on sale for $220: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009969&ignorebbr=1

I'd go to a Frys, Microcenter, or Bestbuy and try to see whatever monitor you like in person though. There may be things that you wouldn't normal think about like if the screen is matte or glossy, what you think about the build quality, etc...
Also keep in mind that the cheaper monitors are going to be TN rather than IPS and won't have variable refresh rate.

I see that Newegg has the HP E272q on sale for $295 vs $359 on HP's own website.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0V5-000U-00052&ignorebbr=1
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-el...ch-qhd-monitor-(energy-star)-p-m1p04a8-aba--1
27", 1440p, IPS, 60hz, reputable brand... it may be worth a look within the under $300 price range. At 27" or larger I definitely recommend IPS vs TN due to color shift.
 

Shaldome

Member
New computer is running for a few hours now. At moment I am in the act of transferring data from the old to the new PC.
Tomorrow will be small overclock and testing some games.

All in all building was a smooth ride, besides the one clasic of computer will not power on, because the POWER SWITCH plug was not in the correct place on the mother board pins.
 

Ettie

Member
Can anyone please tell me the difference between the Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 and the AB350-Gaming motherboards? Just RGB?

Oh! Also, Ryzen seems to be picky about RAM, any guides out there or guidelines I should follow when shopping?
 

Garou

Member
What is the best way to play PC games on the TV with a controller? My PC is already hooked up to the TV. My setup currently looks like this:



I've tried using my PS4 controller with a USB Bluetooth adapter, but the distance between PC and couch is apparently long enough for it to have horrible input lag and frequently lose connection.

Official Xbox 360 wireless adapter and controller gave me flawless reception even through a wall.
 

Varna

Member
Would I be better off waiting for the next generation of CPUs? Using i7-3770k running at 4.5GHZ. Hasn't really been an issue in any game so far. I'm tempted to upgrade since I got a 1080 ti recently and the upgrade itch is really strong... but everything I read mentions performance gains that are in the 15 to 20% range if that. I would need a new mobo, ram and new cooler as well.
 
Would I be better off waiting for the next generation of CPUs? Using i7-3770k running at 4.5GHZ. Hasn't really been an issue in any game so far. I'm tempted to upgrade since I got a 1080 ti recently and the upgrade itch is really strong... but everything I read mentions performance gains that are in the 15 to 20% range if that. I would need a new mobo, ram and new cooler as well.

You'd see some nice gains if you game past 60hz.

Otherwise you're good. I just went from a 2500k to a 3770k. At 60hz I'm good for a long while until I can splurge on coffee lake hex core.
 

teiresias

Member
Anyone here an expert on AIO Watercoolers? Here's my deal.

I'd like to migrate my main desktop PC from my huge Silverstone FT-02 into a Fractal Design Define C. I currently use a Noctua NH-D14 for my CPU cooler, and it's been awesome, but while it will fit in the Define C it's obviously huge and I'm kind of tired of nearly slicing my fingers on it everytime I want to do something in my case.

Therefore I'm thinking of moving to a 120mm AIO CPU cooler when I switch cases (either H100i v2 or Kraken X52 I think). In any event I'm debating whether to put the rad on the top or on the front. I saw some video on youtube where a guy was getting like 86C on his (OC'd to 5GHz admittedly) 7700k with top-mounted rad and a GPU with a non-blower cooler. I'd be putting a 1080 Ti in this case (haven't bought it yet, but noise is a consideration for me so I doubt I'd want a blower).

Now, I'll be running a 4790k at stock speeds and not doing that massive overclock, so I'm just wondering what anyone else using an AIO CPU cooler experiences temperature-wise from your setups (either top exhaust or front intake). Anyone have any experiences?
 

DarkestHour

Banned
Because XMP will generally push quite high VCCIO and VCCSA, and an Auto Vcore with Turbo enhancement on (single core turbo speeds at all core turbo).
Eg on my system a 3000Mhz XMP gives 1.20v VCCSA and VCCIO, and i run 1.07/1.05v instead.

Strange. XMP only sets my memory settings.
 
Anyone here an expert on AIO Watercoolers? Here's my deal.

I'd like to migrate my main desktop PC from my huge Silverstone FT-02 into a Fractal Design Define C. I currently use a Noctua NH-D14 for my CPU cooler, and it's been awesome, but while it will fit in the Define C it's obviously huge and I'm kind of tired of nearly slicing my fingers on it everytime I want to do something in my case.

Therefore I'm thinking of moving to a 120mm AIO CPU cooler when I switch cases (either H100i v2 or Kraken X52 I think).

I'm in the exact same boat as you and would like to know this as well (I have the Noctua D15 but it's basically the same).

Going from a 3770k to 7700k and I'm wondering if it's worth swapping for the AiO cooler. The OP says they're really just for aesthetics (though having more space helps too) and won't really help with cooling much more than a Noctua. Going to be getting a 1080ti soon as well.
 

IC5

Member
Oh! Also, Ryzen seems to be picky about RAM, any guides out there or guidelines I should follow when shopping?
Choose a motherboard. Then go to the official page for that board and pick ram from the officially supported list. Every brand and board will be different. The list is sometimes in its own section and sometimes with the driver and bios updates.

Unfortunately, with Ryzen's growing pains, buying any RAM not on your mobo's list, is a gamble. A lot more of a gamble, than usual.

You might be able to lurk a popular PC forum and find threads where people are compiling success rates on RAM with popular mobos.
 
The AM4 is supposedly going to last 4 generations. The Z270 Intel boards might get you one more generation at best, based on the history.

Really?! I had no idea this was the case. Definitely solidifies my pick for Ryzen then.

The 500 series will almost certainly hit higher clocks, so I would say just wait to see the prices it will be out next week anyways. 4gb is fine for 1080p in my experience.

Thats a good point, I'll have him wait and see how the 500 series stacks up, thanks


Why not go with an R5 1600? For another $40 you get two more cores and four more threads. Plus It comes with a cooler and can probably be overclocked to around the 1600X speed.

1500X comes with the same cooler too. Though dropping the cooler and getting a 1600 feels like a better way to spend money.

Get the R5 1600 instead and drop the cooler, as the stock cooler is pretty good. The only intel CPUs worth buying now are the G4560 (low-end) and the 7700k (high-end gaming).

Do y'all think the extra money spent would be worth it? My friend's only looking for a gaming machine, has the 1600 been doing better in the benchmarks vs the 1500x? Enough to warrant the extra spending?
 

liezryou

Member
Do y'all think the extra money spent would be worth it? My friend's only looking for a gaming machine, has the 1600 been doing better in the benchmarks vs the 1500x? Enough to warrant the extra spending?

The 1600 is better then the 1500x in nearly every way. And people have been reaching 4 ghz overclock with just the stock cooler. With a little bit of silicon lottery luck, your friend may be able to do the same.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Alright yall. I have an old PC, and it is starting to hitch on new games because of my old CPU that I think has also degraded over the years so it doesn't handle heat as well as it used to, but don't want to commit to a full new build quite yet. I'm wondering if it is possible to get away with just Mobo/CPU/RAM.

The case is an Antec Sonata Elite Black ATX Mid Tower and the power supply is an Antec EarthWatts EA750. Can those work with newer stuff? I figure $400-500 could get me something quite nice compared to my current Phenom II X4 955 BE.

My videocard is an R9 270X 4GB and I know it isn't what's giving me problems because even at low settings where they run 100fps the games still rhythmically hitch. I need to fix this CPU bullshit.
 
Alright yall. I have an old PC, and it is starting to hitch on new games because of my old CPU that I think has also degraded over the years so it doesn't handle heat as well as it used to, but don't want to commit to a full new build quite yet. I'm wondering if it is possible to get away with just Mobo/CPU/RAM.

The case is an Antec Sonata Elite Black ATX Mid Tower and the power supply is an Antec EarthWatts EA750. Can those work with newer stuff? I figure $400-500 could get me something quite nice compared to my current Phenom II X4 955 BE.

My videocard is an R9 270X 4GB and I know it isn't what's giving me problems because even at low settings where they run 100fps the games still rhythmically hitch. I need to fix this CPU bullshit.

Maybe you can use your old case but that PSU is probably on its last legs. The good news is for 500 you can easily upgrade your cpu/Mobo/ram. 1600, b350, 16gb ddr4, 550w psu (see afew posts above you can get an evga modular 550w for 60) can be had for around there.

Or if you want to upgrade gpu as well you can go for something like a kaby lake Pentium, b250, plus a Rx 470/570 along with ram and PSU. If you live around a microcenter I'd buy from there for more savings.

Edit: is that an earthwatt platinum? When did you buy it? It might be ok to use.
 

LilJoka

Member
Strange. XMP only sets my memory settings.

XMP will set VDIMM, Freq, timings.
The board is then over volting VCCSA, VCCIO. Just check these voltages at stock 2133mhz and when XMP is enabled. Same for vcore if core enhancement is auto enabled.

There is no way it's not over volted since those are the memory controller voltages, and will need more than stock.
 
Does anyone in this thread have any experience ripping a blu-ray collection for PLEX purposes with an external blu-ray drive? I'm getting really hung up on the lack of options I like for a new PC case that has 5.25" bays.

I'm worried an external drive will take an eternity or burn out too quickly, anyone have any drives they'd recommend? Or am I stuck with finding something with a 5.25" bay?
 

longdi

Banned
Because XMP will generally push quite high VCCIO and VCCSA, and an Auto Vcore with Turbo enhancement on (single core turbo speeds at all core turbo).
Eg on my system a 3000Mhz XMP gives 1.20v VCCSA and VCCIO, and i run 1.07/1.05v instead.

Yeap i never used XMP.
A few clicks in the bios to change the RAM speed will do the same thing without auto voltaging.
 

blacklotus

Member
AMD Ryzen 5 1600
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK
G.SKILL 8GB DDR4 3000MHZ AEGIS
XFX TS Bronze 550w
MSI Radeon RX 480 Armor 8G OC

What do you guys think?
 

laxu

Member
AMD Ryzen 5 1600
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK
G.SKILL 8GB DDR4 3000MHZ AEGIS
XFX TS Bronze 550w
MSI Radeon RX 480 Armor 8G OC

What do you guys think?

I'd go for a higher wattage powersupply, 650-750 in case you want to slam a top end GPU there some day.

I'd probably also double the RAM but not completely necessary.
 
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