Yeah, you just connect your hdmi or whatever cable and that's it.
Maybe its buyers who are biting, after holding out on RX 7900 series reviews and decided to skip it in favor of Nvidia cards instead. Seeing as RDNA 3 fell qutie a bit behind expectations.
Plus there weren't reports of it gathering dust on shelves just that scalpers were struggling to sell at a significant mark-up.
Yeah in any case they aren't exactly flying off shelves. Nvidia really do need to discount these cards for them to sell. After the Holidays these are going to continue to gather dust, after the big spending period (and year) if prices remain as they are. Because ain't nobody interested in these overpriced 80 series cards.
If you are in the market for a 4080, I would seriously suggest that you hold out until you budget allows you to buy a 4090. For $400 more you get a hell of a lot more performance...but that also depends on what resolution/frame rate you are targeting. The price to performance for the 4080 is a bit high and yes, grante the 4090 is a lot more, it's price to performance is better.
that was me. waited to see what the new AMD card were like. i can't see any prices here but seems like it'll be about £1,000 for the XTX. for another £200 i'm getting DLSS and better Raytracing. Totally worth it for me and if the XTX is about £1,000 it makes the 4080 look like a good deal.
That's fair. I probably would've done the same.. RT is not a gimmick anymore with more and more games releasing with it. And honestly if you're happy, its worth the cash. Its a card that'll last you some years with its RT performance and the latest DLSS support. Granted. its quite pricey, the enjoyment you get out of it is worth it rather that waiting for god knows how long for these to drop in price. And like you said there are other factors like you said.. like power draw and needing more powerful PSU etc to handle the 4090. And iof you don't need that extra performance why spend more.. use that money saved on games and other things.
rtx definitely ain't a gimmick anymore.
Looks solid to me, but please don't pay for Windows. Just download it off Microsoft's site and then buy a key for $15-$20 (Depending if you're fortunate enough to hit a sale) But $100 for Windows sound absolutely insane, lol. And then with that savings, you could get you a 2 TB Gen4 NVME like the Crucial P5 Plus. Shouldn't be much more than that WD 850 in euro monies.
I'm not gonna pay for windows of course.
Thanks much appreciated.you can ask here. probably the best place so what's your question?
if you only want a laptop for portability to play games then i'd just get a Steam Deck. it seems you can use a cable to get it to display on your TV. might be a bit of a hassle but you're still going to need to do the same if you get a laptop. also i think you can use the Steam Deck as a PC so if you need to do some work stuff you could do that too. the thing is you'd be dealing with Linux and not Windows. i don't know how easy it is to remote in your work PC through linux or if your work supports it.Thanks much appreciated.
Basically I'm trying to pick a gaming laptop but there are so many options and the reviews seem to be a bit all over the place (for the same laptop) at times.
Also, I'll explain why I want a laptop as opposed to desktop first since I know someone will mention that. Essentially we have our home office (where I work and where my shit but still gaming-capable desktop is). My girlfriend also works in that same home office so ideally I want to switch to a laptop (my plan would be to sell the parts from my PC to partially recoup the cost of the laptop) that I can use for my work in the home office (the work side is just connecting to a remote desktop so nothing intensive) and then unplug my laptop from my monitors and take it into the lounge, plug it into our TV (4K but I'd be happy running at 1080p or 1440p medium settings) and play some games.
CPU: I'm under the impression that Ryzen has the better battery life but Intel has the better performance. I'm not sure how often I would use it unplugged so I'm not wedded to either CPU "team" although from pricing, Ryzen seems to be consistently cheaper.
GPU: Looking at a bunch of JarrodsTech videos it looks like I'd be good with a decently-juiced RTX 3060 Mobile (for reference my desktop has a 1650 so anything is a major step up)
RAM: Ideally at least 16GB but I would upgrade it anyway so a must would be having both slots upgradeable
Storage: nVME SSD of course. 512GB would probably be fine as long as there's space for an extra SSD under the hood.
Display: High refresh rate is a must (144Hz) and I would of course like decent response time and color gamut but I guess it all depends on price.
Other things:
-One thing I really do want is for it to be light and not get crazy hot. I can tolerate loud fans since I'd probably wear headphones but I cannot stand laptops that get extremely hot.
-If we're assuming Ryzen, I'm happy to go with a 5800-something, the new 6000 series seems pointless if I don't need the integrated graphics.
-I'd like to avoid a gaming laptop that visually screams "gaming laptop!" so I have no interest in crazy RGB and I also would prefer not to have multi-colored WSAD keys especially since I'm left-handed so I don't use them.
Price: I don't want to spend an absolute fortune. I've set my budget at 150,000 yen (I'm in Japan). I can go maybe 10,000 yen higher if it's an irresistible deal.
Of course there's that notion with laptops that you should buy the "absolute best at the time" so that it lasts since most of it is not upgradeable but I just don't feel the need to spend that sort of money.
So in a nutshell I'm looking for:
- the best possible laptop (I guess upper-budget) I can find for around 150,000 yen striking a balance between the considerations mentioned above.
Extra tidbit: Another thought I had was.... maybe I'd be better off buying a Steam Deck and making some upgrades to my current (AM4-based PC)?
I calculated that for the same 150,000 yen I could buy:
1) the base Steam Deck (59,000 yen, emmc storage only)
2) an 2230 ssd for it (16,000 yen for 512gb)
3) a 6600 XT (for like 30,000 yen used)
4) a 5800X3D (for about 45,000 yen)
which miraculously comes to exactly 150,000 yen
Laptops I've seen for around 150,000 (give or take) that seemed good:
IdeaPad Gaming 370i Core i5 12500H・16GB RAM・512GB SSD・RTX 3060
¥139,700
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Legion 570i Core i7 12700H・16GB RAM 1TB SSD・RTX 3060
¥174,790
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There are also some cheaper ASUS TUF machines but I was under the impression they're not very good build quality. Only concern I have about Lenovo ones is that they seem to be extremely heavy..
Fucking hell it's difficult to choose a laptop and I thought I was a least decent with PC parts.
Thanks a lot for your reply, I appreciate it.
Hi all,
Looking for advice since I've not looked at this kind of thing since NFTs shitted everything up. My home built PC is showing its age when gaming and Id like to upgrade.
mobo:
Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 6
proc:
Intel Core i5-6600K (overclocked to 4.4ghz)
GPU:
Strix overclocked NVIDIA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
RAM:
32gb of this:
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I have multiple SSDs (samsung 850s)
I'll still be gaming @1080 most likely as I like my monitor.
Im assuming I should start with my GPU. I dont want to spend a fuck ton. Maybe $400 ish.
Any recommendations?
I think in your case i would get the deck if your mobo can handle the upgrade. You can also get a sd card instead of the ssd (marginal difference in speed) and maybe get the dock as well. Sounds like this would suit your needs. Of course you would get a worse picture in your lounge when hooking to the tv but the work station would be miles better.
Yes this is my concern with the Deck because I know its basically a 720p-900p device and probably wouldn't look good on the TV.
That's a fair suggestion, I don't need max and not bothered about ray tracing.. I have a 165 hz monitor so of course it would be great to take advantage of that but as long as I can comfortably game over 60fps at high-ish settings I would be happy. Also I guess I don't typically play the absolute newest cutting edge games, but I would like to try to God of War and Death Stranding (my 1650 would struggle with both).
Im not in the market for a 4080. At all. I still have my perfectly good EVGA 3080 12GB.
Here you can somewhat find 4080s in the 1500-1800€ range, but 4090s are much more rare and in the 2300-2700€ range, quite a difference.
On the other hand it may be a blessing in disguise. You can catch up on old games and backlog if you have older hardware or consoles and leave Nvidia and AMD to crash the market themselves.
it's simple. if you think you will need an iGPU at any point then get the K model. if you want to save a bit of money and are 100% sure you will never need the iGPU because either you'll take it to get fixed or you have a spare GPU to use if you need to troubleshoot or serve as a temporary replacement.So i'm getting an msi 4080 gaming trio, a 13600kf and 32 gb of ddr5 5600 cl36 corsair for just 1483 euros, it's like i'm not even paying for the cpu and ram
Any last chance to convince me to get a 13600k because i need an integrated gpu to do a troubleshot even if i don't have idea how to do a troubleshot, let alone solve a complicated problem and i just usually end taking the pc for a ride in some pc shop to get it fixed. (happened only once luckily)
How in the hell'd you find that deal man?! Just out of curiosity lol. I kinda wanna start getting ready for my next build but the prices are too crazy right now.So i'm getting an msi 4080 gaming trio, a 13600kf and 32 gb of ddr5 5600 cl36 corsair for just 1483 euros, it's like i'm not even paying for the cpu and ram
Any last chance to convince me to get a 13600k because i need an integrated gpu to do a troubleshot even if i don't have idea how to do a troubleshot, let alone solve a complicated problem and i just usually end taking the pc for a ride in some pc shop to get it fixed. (happened only once luckily)
Very good prices in a site, and i detract the 22% vat because i have a business.
and then it basically hits 100C within seconds. to be fair this is during heavy stress tests so not what i'll see during game but still the card is using insane power. after that i started looking at the 7950X but looking at benchmarks the 7700X is basically the same gaming performance as the 7950X and that's all i need it for. i do a bit of photo/video editing which my 9900K handles well so the 7700X would still be an upgrade for that kind of stuff. i know the 13900K is the best gaming CPU but that power draw put me right off and anyway it's like £600. the 7700X is £330.
That is a good argument, the difference is around 30 euros in here aswell, but right now i'm undecited between the msi gaming trio and the gigabyte gaming OC, the giga is a bit better everywhere except higher wattage required, and it's 30 euros pricier than the msi.
for GPU.... i'd just get the one you think looks best and cheapest
So:for GPU.... i'd just get the one you think looks best and cheapest
personally i'd go with the MSI because i think it looks better but that's just my preference. if 30 euros is a deciding factor to you then it's also cheaper.
i don't know about power consumption but looking at the official product pages the msi uses 320W but i can't see a recommended PSU. the gigabyte recommends at least 850W psu but i can't see power consumption of the card itself.
in terms of clock speeds the MSI says it does 2505-2520MHz and the gigabyte can do 2535. so basically there is no difference. if you OC either GPU it could be that the MSI will overclock more than the Gigabyte. it's just your luck.
other than that.... the Gigabyte is a bigger card. make sure it'll fit in your case and remember you need to keep space for the 12+4 power cable/adapter which i find isn't that easy to bend and you don't want to be putting to much stress on it.
So:
-I don't give a fuck about look in a computer, never did, if a 4090 with little pink swarosky dicks all over it was 500 euros cheaper, i would buy that model
- i saw some bench for both and the giga should beat the msi, not by much but it looks like it perform better, and it is cooler.
but it consume more, also i don't overclock anything in my pc.
-I bought a 200 euros abnormous king tower case just to have space for everything, i can live inside this motherfucker and still have room for the gpu and a mid size turtle terrarium, i should not have any space problem whatsoever
Cpu: Have you considered the 13600k? it should be plenty for gaming at 4k with probably less consumes\hot temps.well, since upgrading to my 4080 i have got the urge to upgrade the rest of my PC
CPU: was looking at the i9-13900K but then i saw how heavy the power usage is! some tests show it can use almost 500W
Cooler: my current CPU cooler is a bequiet dark rock pro 4 but i don't have the bracket to mount it to LGA 1700. i can buy one for £5-6 i think. i was thinking about getting the Noctua NH-D15 which is £105-110. i'm totally against any kind of liquid cooling so if a NH-D15 can't handle it then i'm not buying it.
if i went AMD then i don't need a new cooler at all. my be quiet should work on AM5 and handle the 7700X.
RAM: i was looking to upgrade to 64GB DDR5 RAM. i don't really need it but seeing games use 19-24GB RAM has me a little worried. again this is probably an extreme situation because the games i saw this was Flight Simulator and Fortnite on Unreal Engine 5.1. Both these games are arguably some of most demanding and or technologically advanced games out right now. Fortnite i think is a decent indicator of how games will look, not visually of course, in a few years as more of them use Unreal Engine 5. that said, even if games do hit 20GB i still would have 12GB left so 32GB is probably fine.
the ram i was looking at for 64GB was corsair vengeance 5600/c40. for 32GB i was going to go with 6000/cl36.
Motherboard: the motherboard i was going to get was the Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master (same brand i currently have: z390 aorus master) but it's an E-ATX and i don't want to replace my case. So i was then looking at the Asus ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming Wifi (i think that's the name). I think it's maybe best to leave Gigabyte. The Z390 master i have is really great but a couple minor things have bugged (heh) me. The RGB software is a buggy mess and disables the LEDs on my 4080 so i need to either have the LEDS on my GPU or the LEDS on my motherboard. Can't have both. apparently there is a BIOS version with RGB fusion integrated but I can't find it. In general, it seems Gigabyte has some buggy BIOS issues. I had both Ubuntu + Windows on my system but no matter what I couldn't get back into Ubuntu with secure boot on. After trying to find a fix it seems it's a gigabyte bios issue.
for AM5 the gigabyte master is ATX but £430. the asus rog strix b650e-e is £360.
SSD: either the WD SN850X 2TB or Samsung 980/990 Pro 2TB. the WD has 7.3/6.6GB read/write. the 980 has 7/5GB and the 990 I think was 7.6/6.9GBs.
if i went intel the build was going to cost ~£1,800. by going with the 7700X build it'd be £1,050. so i might not have the best gaming CPU i'll be saving hundreds and still getting decent performance while not using a fuck load of power. also there is the fact that if go intel i'm locked into that. if i go AM5 i can drop a newer CPU in at some point should i choose to do that and without having to buy a whole new motherboard and maybe even worry about mounting brackets for the cooler.
.... and then i read that AMD is releasing 3D variant models next month so after spending hours researching parts i have decided to wait a month or two to see what those new CPUs are like. i'm hoping for a 7700X3D or maybe even a 7800X3D. plus waiting a bit longer will let me get christmas out the way and save up some more money. my 9900K is by no means a slouch but i want to upgrade to something new.
i got in on the same deal. couldn't resist at that price.
If you know you're going to buy a X3D cheap regardless, I'd say grab the 7600x since its cheaper. Burn as less much as possible.
Comes down to which games you care about, your desired resolution and framerate really. It is a decent upgrade but if you want to quantify it GN have a decent bit of coverage when the 5800x3d launched, but it also includes the 3600 and 5800x in those comparisons.
