Don't personally know if their newer PSU are still a fireworks show, but this was the reality for them a year and change ago.
Interesting... Has anyone had any recent experience with their PSU and know they've since improved?
Don't personally know if their newer PSU are still a fireworks show, but this was the reality for them a year and change ago.
Interesting... Has anyone had any recent experience with their PSU and know they've since improved?
Thanks for your response mate.
Any reason to avoid Gigabyte for the PSU? Appreciate the help!
Gigabyte should be avoided in general. Their PSUs literally exploded and just now they are denying warranty on cracked 4090 PCBs. They are a terrible company.Thanks for your response mate.
Any reason to avoid Gigabyte for the PSU? Appreciate the help!
Tbh there are so many decent well priced PSU options these days that it isn't even worth the risk or investigation.
Just see the video GN in the post above.
I would avoid them at all costs.
Gigabyte should be avoided in general. Their PSUs literally exploded and just now they are denying warranty on cracked 4090 PCBs. They are a terrible company.
Again, my opinion, but if its already been built, I wouldn't worry about it. Plenty of people have purchased Gigabyte PSU since this fiasco. I'm sure they've corrected the issue and it wasn't all their models.Thanks guys for the response, appreciate it.
I can't seem to change the PSU with the build I listed as it's already been built. I'll have to try purchase the build elsewhere or risk it... Which based off the video and what you guys have said, is too risky.
The bloke I spoke to at the store admitted to their being an issue with a “previous model” PSU where it would explode and whatnot but said it’s since been resolved.Again, my opinion, but if its already been built, I wouldn't worry about it. Plenty of people have purchased Gigabyte PSU since this fiasco. I'm sure they've corrected the issue and it wasn't all their models.
but do you think it's worth upgrading now if I run games fine without RT? I'm not really concerned about not having RT TBH8GB of VRAM is potentially killing your RT performance. RT taxes CPU and adds more VRAM usage. Changing CPU will help you a lot in some games but so would GPU with more memory.
For example Hogwarts legacy require a lot of VRAM and powerful CPU to run above 60 with RT on (not to mention GPU fast enough to render it).
but do you think it's worth upgrading now if I run games fine without RT? I'm not really concerned about not having RT TBH
I appreciate it! I also planned on getting DDR 5 6000 along with the i7 13700If you menage your texture settings playing without RT should be ok on 3070ti for some time now. For CPU, there are super heavy games (like Jedi, Hogwarts, Witcher 3) that will show you some big differences if you change go 13 series, but those games are also much heavier with RT than without...
For big and noticeable upgrade you need to change GPU, CPU and RAM.
13700k will be a good platform for changing GPU later.
Looking to sell the following spec'd USED PC:
CPU: Intel i7 7700k
Mobo: Asus Strix Z370
Ram: 16gb DDR4
Cooler: NZX X63 (280mm)
GPU: Asus RTX 3060 Ti 8GB Dual OC
PSU: 650W Gold
How much do you think its worth?
euro or USD?400-500e
Euro.euro or USD?
different story unfortunately for high-end atx 3.0 PSUs.Tbh there are so many decent well priced PSU options these days that it isn't even worth the risk or investigation.
different story unfortunately for high-end atx 3.0 PSUs.
many manufacturers havent updated their product lines to atx 3.0 yet (likely due to the unavailability of parts), and what what has been released is basically sold out.
you want 1000w+, platinum/titanium efficiency, at least a semi-digital platform, AND it to be quiet?
keep waiting.
V-MODA, not USB but works greatWhat's a good USB microphone strictly for online gaming (no podcast/streaming or any of that bs)? Just want something good to play Warzone 2 with. I have sennheiser audiophile headphones with a DAC/AMP. Don't want to replace that with a headset
I am upgrading to an RTX 4080 and i have a power supply 750W, do i need to upgrade it or i can still use with the 4080?
It is a Seasonic PSU that i have for a few years.What is the rest of your components? But it should be fine, 4080@350w (often uses less) and a cpu at 100-150w while gaming = 500w so plenty of overheard for everything else. Even my 13700k oc'd tops out around 120-140w worst case while gaming.
Assuming it is a quality psu.
I am upgrading to an RTX 4080 and i have a power supply 750W, do i need to upgrade it or i can still use with the 4080?
TnxEasy. I have 850W and it works flawlessly with 4090.
Tnx
Is it worth adding 16gb memory to a total of 32gb?
Playing in 4k
You are 100% fine there with 750wIt is a Seasonic PSU that i have for a few years.
Did not have any issue with 3080 i had.
My spec is:
CPU Amd 5600X
Memory - X2 8gb G.skill trident 3600
1 ssd
1 HDD
1 Nvme HD
Considering games are made for consoles these days I very much doubt game devs will ever put in the effort for Intel's chip design.It's not really that they're a shitty design, it's that they're a new design. E-cores help a lot in tasks that can be split up and scaled across any number of threads, because those tasks are agnostic to those sorts of imbalances.
But gaming is much more complicated. Different threads are doing different tasks, and all of them need to work together, so a demanding process on the less powerful core can be a "weak link" and slow things down. This is also why single core performance is still really important to emulation.
As devs get better and writing for asymmetrical processors, this issue will go away. The e-cores still provide a great deal of additional power at devs disposal, but it's about making sure the right threads end up on the right cores.
My previous PSU was 750W and I upgraded to a 1000W when I bought my 4080. I could have easily kept the 750W.I am upgrading to an RTX 4080 and i have a power supply 750W, do i need to upgrade it or i can still use with the 4080?
For now but more games are going to require 32GB. If D Darkone isn't planning on upgrading to a new CPU/motherboard with DDR5 any time soon then definitely go for 32GB RAM.You can probably count on one hand games that 'recommend' 32GB. 16GB would be enough but I guess since RAM is so cheap you might as well future proof yourself and go for 32.
I was considering upgrading the CPU to 5900X as i dont have the funds for any thing more powerful as i need to change the Mobo because of the socket but i hope the bottleneck wontbbe that harsh but i think i will upgrade the CPU and mobo next year.My previous PSU was 750W and I upgraded to a 1000W when I bought my 4080. I could have easily kept the 750W.
With stock settings I didn't see my 4080 use anymore than 310W and that was me running multiple stress tests. 440W for the rest of your system should be fine. If you've got something like an intel 13900K and plan on pushing it hard through overclocking then go for a 1000W PSU.
I now have my 4080 underclocked. Max power it uses is 270W and performs more or less same as stock settings.
For now but more games are going to require 32GB. If D Darkone isn't planning on upgrading to a new CPU/motherboard with DDR5 any time soon then definitely go for 32GB RAM.
I had 32GB RAM and was starting to feel uncomfortable with how much RAM games were using. I saw games start to hit about 19-21GB and in one cases as high as 24GB.
If you primarily game, get a 5800X3D instead. The 5900X is a good processor if you can make use of all the threads with productivity apps or VMs, but the extra cache helps in more games than the larger number of cores.I was considering upgrading the CPU to 5900X as i dont have the funds for any thing more powerful as i need to change the Mobo because of the socket but i hope the bottleneck wontbbe that harsh but i think i will upgrade the CPU and mobo next year.
I have the MSI 4090 non X version, only difference is the X version is clocked a bit higher straight from the manufacturer. Honestly the cost difference is not worth it for what little benefit it is to you, plus you could follow the various guides online on how to manually tune your GPU to get the same results. I'm at work so I can't look into all the individual parts you listed, I'll list exactly what I have in a bit. But real quick you will want to get a 1000w psu for sure, give yourself the extra headroom when it comes to power consumption. Any 4090 GPU will be quite a power hog and you also want to ensure the thing powering all of your expensive parts is up to task.This will be my first time building one. I have picked out the CPU and GPU. I want to go big with it so I've decided to go with the Ryzen 7800X3D and a 4090. There are so many 4090's. I'm not sure which one to go with. Any recommendations that are under $1700?
I am looking at the MSI 4090. Is this one good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BG959RCF/?tag=neogaf0e-20
But there's also this one for the same price: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BG94PS2F/?tag=neogaf0e-20
What's the difference other than the X in the name of the second one. One is in stock and the other won't be in stock until July.
I also need help picking out a motherboard. I'm just not sure which one/brand to go with. I read the Asus ones were burning up 7800X3D cpu's so that has scared me. Did they fix this? I want something that is very solid but not too expensive.
RAM: I've chosen G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB). This one: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374358?Item=N82E16820374358
CPU cooling: Should I go with liquid cooling or air cooling? Also good recommendations for both?
Case: I've settled between the Corsair 4000D or 5000D. Will the 4090 fit inside a 4000D case? Or should I just go with 5000D to get a little bit more extra room?
PSU: I am looking at the Corsair RM850X 850W. This one. Good choice? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08R5JPTMZ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
SSD: SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 Gaming M.2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RK2SR23/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I appreciate the help. I am looking to get all this within the next few days.
Nice!I have the MSI 4090 non X version, only difference is the X version is clocked a bit higher straight from the manufacturer. Honestly the cost difference is not worth it for what little benefit it is to you, plus you could follow the various guides online on how to manually tune your GPU to get the same results. I'm at work so I can't look into all the individual parts you listed, I'll list exactly what I have in a bit. But real quick you will want to get a 1000w psu for sure, give yourself the extra headroom when it comes to power consumption. Any 4090 GPU will be quite a power hog and you also want to ensure the thing powering all of your expensive parts is up to task.
Edit: In regards to how to go about cooling everything, ever since my first build I have stayed with air cooling and my temps have always been not only okay but actually great. Plus the 4090 is cooled pretty well on it's own since the specs during production made it seem like it needed to beefed up in that regards but that ended up not being entirely true.
This is the air cooler I use: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y87YHRH/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This is the PSU both me and my wife use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0997XYF3R/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Edit #2: I haven't looked at those cases you mentioned yet BUT if the extra room will still allow you to fit it in the spot you are going to put it then might as well go that route. You immediately get the benefit of more air circulation plus if you choose to expand in the future you'll have the room to do so.
Air cooling can be just as good as water cooling. And I have one of Asus's most expensive water coolers on my 5950x.. I think it was Gamers Nexus that has an entire video testing and explaining this issue. Go watch it.Nice!
So air cooling is pretty sufficient enough? I won't be doing OC or anything. I just want cool temps for my cpu of course.
Is the G5 model 1000w PSU good enough? Only because it's sold by Amazon instead of a third party.
This is the 5000D case: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08M49WW51/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This is the 4000D case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C7BGV3D/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I have 3 big boy gaming PCs two 7950x CPUs one is air cooled and the other is liquid cooled with a 360 MM rad and the air cooler does a great job and the one DeaDPo0L84 linked is the one I use as well and its my favorite coolerNice!
So air cooling is pretty sufficient enough? I won't be doing OC or anything. I just want cool temps for my cpu of course.
Is the G5 model 1000w PSU good enough? Only because it's sold by Amazon instead of a third party.
This is the 5000D case: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08M49WW51/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This is the 4000D case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C7BGV3D/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The power graphs are actually worse than what was shown, because the AMD CPU offers more performance in most games it pushes the GPU harder, which causes the GPU to use more power, and yet still comes out way ahead in power consumption during gaming.After watching this, I don't know how anyone who is looking for a top of the line gaming PC would consider going for Intel. This was a pretty significant beatdown and Intel uses nearly twice as much power.
If you're going for a cheaper system, Intel may well be the best option, but AMD still has a 5800X3D that would be a good gaming PC for much cheaper.
i was never picky about PSUs in the past, but now i want max efficiency and silence.I've had the 1200w version of the Thermaltake Gf3 for a while and it's been great so far, I've not heard it over any of my other components.
Granted, if you're strict on the platinum thing then that won't satisfy you since it's gold.
Do you plan on mostly gaming at 4k 60? 1440p? You could consider getting a cheaper GPU depending on this. Or alternatively go with a cheaper CPU instead. In my case I got a great deal on a used 6800 (non-XT) and it will be plenty for 1440p gaming at mostly 120fps.i'll be joining the PC crew soon. been several years. been looking to get best bang for 2k ish. dont want to have to upgrade again for a few years. any tips on this build? any optimizations?
- i dont care about cases/rgb as long as it all fits
-no plans on overclocking so looking for minimum cooling to get stock clocks.
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nmLXC6
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($438.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler ($44.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A620M GAMING X Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($949.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1955.83