Support NeoGAF

[BlackTron]

Thank fuck Bowser ate another one. There is no way a condition allows one to type so absurd.

Guess I'm in a minority but his bad typing only sometimes comes off as too far for me.

Although I do think he has issues, the extent of bad typing is a gimmick. But it's more distinct and entertaining than a perfectly written post might be with the same message.

There was a very fine line here between warring and making a relevant post because it's said ITT that Outlaws may be the first NS2 game with RT. So a video of Outlaws running on a currently available handheld in similar ballpark only becomes bad over "expertation" and framing. Yeah he isn't 100% innocent but "why are you bringing up steam deck" at all to begin with is taking a lot of heat no?

There's a time and a place and he misjudged this time. I think GAF is better with the extra flavor than without and we chasing away, just my take. The guy is just going to stop posting because he can't parse the difference between good fun or bannable post after a drink, because the difference is too small.

 

[FireFly]

But if it lowers frames, and is so barebones that you ain't even noticing it. Is it really a positive?

You will notice RTGI. It's just a question of how low the resolution has to go. But the S runs at around 1080p at 60 FPS in Indiana Jones for example. So the Switch 2 should be able to run at 1080p30 in docked mode. (Probably developers would upscale from 720p anyway and the presentation would look better, as in Cyberpunk).

 

[Toots]

I just had to bump this thread

Guess I'm in a minority but his bad typing only sometimes comes off as too far for me.

Although I do think he has issues, the extent of bad typing is a gimmick. But it's more distinct and entertaining than a perfectly written post might be with the same message.

There was a very fine line here between warring and making a relevant post because it's said ITT that Outlaws may be the first NS2 game with RT. So a video of Outlaws running on a currently available handheld in similar ballpark only becomes bad over "expertation" and framing. Yeah he isn't 100% innocent but "why are you bringing up steam deck" at all to begin with is taking a lot of heat no?

There's a time and a place and he misjudged this time. I think GAF is better with the extra flavor than without and we chasing away, just my take. The guy is just going to stop posting because he can't parse the difference between good fun or bannable post after a drink, because the difference is too small.

Or maybe he will come back when the ban is over and keeping posting his low effort high reward crud + gif posts until next ban...
He gets too much attention to stop don't worry only a perm ban will make him go away.
Not that i want it, i sometimes find him funny too.
But put yourself in my shoes for a sec.
Im a small troll artisan working alone in my dimly lit workshop, posting taylor made messages with at least 2 layers of humorous material in each.
I can't help but think that while he has one of the highest engagement rate of the forum, he tries too little and it detracts from the hard work of humble craftsmen like myself.

On topic, i think switch 2 is a

 

[BlackTron]

I just had to bump this thread

Or maybe he will come back when the ban is over and keeping posting his low effort high reward crud + gif posts until next ban...
He gets too much attention to stop don't worry only a perm ban will make him go away.
Not that i want it, i sometimes find him funny too.
But put yourself in my shoes for a sec.
Im a small troll artisan working alone in my dimly lit workshop, posting taylor made messages with at least 2 layers of humorous material in each.
I can't help but think that while he has one of the highest engagement rate of the forum, he tries too little and it detracts from the hard work of humble craftsmen like myself.

On topic, i think switch 2 is a

That's the bump?

 

[FireFly]

You bump the thread and don't even mention Indiana Jones is coming to the Switch 2, which has RTGI?

 

[Signalis]

I just had to bump this thread

Or maybe he will come back when the ban is over and keeping posting his low effort high reward crud + gif posts until next ban...
He gets too much attention to stop don't worry only a perm ban will make him go away.
Not that i want it, i sometimes find him funny too.
But put yourself in my shoes for a sec.
Im a small troll artisan working alone in my dimly lit workshop, posting taylor made messages with at least 2 layers of humorous material in each.
I can't help but think that while he has one of the highest engagement rate of the forum, he tries too little and it detracts from the hard work of humble craftsmen like myself.

On topic, i think switch 2 is a

Why do you need to bump the thread for such a stupid reason. It's absolute crud

 

[Toots]

That's the bump?

I admit i don't care about switch 2 abyssal performance or being able to play ray traced games at 320x240p resolution, but at least i got the conversation going again

 

[Von Hugh]

I admit i don't care about switch 2 abyssal performance or being able to play ray traced games at 320x240p resolution, but at least i got the conversation going again

There is nothing to converse about, Switch 2 can't do ray-tracing performantly, but it also doesn't really matter on a device like this.

 

[Toots]

There is nothing to converse about, Switch 2 can't do ray-tracing performantly, but it also doesn't really matter on a device like this.

In other words, ray tarcing too crud only goord effect for nintendos sweetch sprit of garming too strong to harv crud effffects.

 

[Hyet]

So, indiana Jones only works with RT so, I assume we'll see how NS halndles that?

 

[OverHeat]

Indiana Jones is going to be 30fps 250p with RT!!! Joking but will finally see the power of the switch 2

 

[LordOcidax]

There is nothing to converse about, Switch 2 can't do ray-tracing performantly, but it also doesn't really matter on a device like this.

If the game is not CPU intensive the Switch 2 can do ray tracing fine.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Switch 2 getting ready now:

 

[OverHeat]

If the game is not CPU intensive the Switch 2 can do ray tracing fine.

Proof?

 

[LordOcidax]

Proof?

We have to wait, but the hardware is capable. The system only has 2 months in the market.

 

[64gigabyteram]

soon

oohooho OverHeat super fan melt down

all the people on this forum & u chose to try and roast the guy whos already on fire

 

[yogaflame]

Even without Raytracing, it can win the console war especially with exclusives.

 

[Kataploom]

Proof?

Specs lol

 

[ecosse_011172]

Specs lol

 

[OverHeat]

Specs lol

Like the Xbox and PS5 who only do basic RT

 

[LordOcidax]

Specs lol

Some people tends to forget that the Switch 2 hardware is more capable to PS5 and Series consoles when it comes to RT. If the game is not CPU intensive the Switch 2 could have the best showcase for raytracing on consoles.

 

[LordOcidax]

Like the Xbox and PS5 who only do basic RT

The RT tech in those consoles is trash compared to the Nvidia tech on the Switch 2 and you know that.

 

[simpatico]

Smart move making this thread so a list may be compiled. I had the horrific experience of thinking I liked the way a game looked, and even verbalizing it, only to later find out the lighting was partially baked. Imagine the embarrassment and shame. Yeah, don't make the same mistake guys. Always confirm.

 

[OverHeat]

The RT tech in those consoles is trash compared to the Nvidia tech on the Switch 2 and you know that.

But it only have 12 RT cores…while a 5090 got like 170.

 

[LordOcidax]

But it only have 12 RT cores…while a 5090 got like 170.

Talking about current gen consoles here, not PC.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Talking about current gen consoles here, not PC.

 

[Lethal01]

In other words, ray tarcing too crud only goord effect for nintendos sweetch sprit of garming too strong to harv crud effffects.

You will never reach his level, his posts are art, yours are tryhard, even in attempts to imitate you fall flat.
Bowser forever

 

[OverHeat]

Talking about current gen consoles here, not PC.

Fair point but a 3060 is about the same power if I'm not mistaken and with 28 RT cores it run indie like shit at 1080p

 

[Kataploom]

Some people tends to forget that the Switch 2 hardware is more capable to PS5 and Series consoles when it comes to RT. If the game is not CPU intensive the Switch 2 could have the best showcase for raytracing on consoles.

I don't think that Switch 2 would perform better than PS5 on RT games, if anything, it would lose less performance, that's my assumption.

Like the Xbox and PS5 who only do basic RT

Switch 2 has Ampere RT cores, that's way better than RDNA 2 RT, it would probably outperform XSS if not CPU bottlenecked.

Fair point but a 3060 is about the same power if I'm not mistaken and with 28 RT cores it run indie like shit at 1080p

3060 is around PS5 GPU.

 

[Deerock71]

On topic, i think switch 2 is a

 

[LordOcidax]

I don't think that Switch 2 would perform better than PS5 on RT games, if anything, it would lose less performance, that's my assumption.

I am not saying it will outperform the PS5, but the hardware is 100% capable.

Fair point but a 3060 is about the same power if I'm not mistaken and with 28 RT cores it run indie like shit at 1080p

Here's a good example, obviously at lower settings.

 

[Deerock71]

This could just be my ignorance, but wasn't Minecraft updated to run ray-tracing? I'd think something like that would be doable on the Switch 2.

 

[Gamer79]

 

[FireFly]

Some people tends to forget that the Switch 2 hardware is more capable to PS5 and Series consoles when it comes to RT. If the game is not CPU intensive the Switch 2 could have the best showcase for raytracing on consoles.

RDNA 2 GPUs are about 30% (or one product category) slower than Nvidia GPUs in RT games. So the 6800 XT is about as fast as the 2080 Ti and the 6700 XT is about as fast as the 3060. By this metric, the PS5/XSX should be about as fast as the 2060/2060 Super. (We even had a XSX Minecraft RT demo running at roughly 2060 performance levels). The Switch 2 isn't going to come close to that.

 

[Kataploom]

RDNA 2 GPUs are about 30% (or one product category) slower than Nvidia GPUs in RT games. So the 6800 XT is about as fast as the 2080 Ti and the 6700 XT is about as fast as the 3060. By this metric, the PS5/XSX should be about as fast as the 2060/2060 Super. (We even had a XSX Minecraft RT demo running at roughly 2060 performance levels). The Switch 2 isn't going to come close to that.

That's why I prefer to say it will lose less performance than XS/PS5 in RT, the hardware is better but there are more things to consider

 

[RoadHazard]

Some people tends to forget that the Switch 2 hardware is more capable to PS5 and Series consoles when it comes to RT.

Why do you believe this? It's very obviously false. The Switch 2 might have better RT hardware than those consoles, but it has WAY less of it. We're not talking about a desktop Nvidia GPU here, it's a tiny mobile chip.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Fair point but a 3060 is about the same power if I'm not mistaken and with 28 RT cores it run indie like shit at 1080p

Why you say that?



Seems fine. Indiana Jones is well optimized, until you run out of VRAM.

I mean



If RDNA 2 Van gogh with 8 CU - 8 intersection engines is doing ray tracing, because it is forced in indiana jones, and good enough, Nvidia will just cruise along that shit. RDNA 2 was especially shit with RTGI thus the whole AMD sponsering shadows and reflections at best for so long.

There's too much counting on RT cores or tensor cores as if that's something you can just scale regardless of the underlying limit, the pipeline. Just like bandwidth amount has to feed a certain GB/s per SMs to not choke it, every SMs has its RT hardware to not leave local registers and become slow and full of stalls. If a game has no chance of having RTGI on Switch 2, more than likely it had no chance even with just the raster/compute part of the SMs either

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

 

[Toots]

Actually that's the whole post
I meant to say a as in A grade console

 

[ecosse_011172]

Actually that's the whole post
I meant to say a as in A grade console

 

[Toots]

You will never reach his level, his posts are art, yours are tryhard, even in attempts to imitate you fall flat.
Bowser forever

Calm down dude it's the first time i try my hand at imitating him.
Go fanboy for your retard king in front of Neogaf prison instead of here, maybe he'll hear you then.

Or in other words, you r crud and evil

(by the way, who could have expected Bowsey messianic turn just before the ban with his anathema on "evil" overheat ? To me it is actually the sign of a great artist. Whenever you feel he is starting to sound stale, he just reinvents himself in ways you'd think about. I mean if all this was more than the wild imaginings of a crippled brain)