"I Need a New PC!" 2024-2025. 240 Hz OLEDs, PCI-Gen5, Path Tracing & Ray Reconstruction.

Hey guys, how much do you think this PC is worth? I made it for a friend but he ended up getting something else and I've been having a hard time trying to sell it locally. It cost me $730 to build it and have it listed for $800 which to me seems like a good deal but not getting much interest. I'm thinking about replacing the 6750xt with something more recent, like a 9060 xt but I'm waiting to find one at MSRP. I'm haven't tried selling it online yet so not sure if I have it priced too high or if there just isn't much interest for gaming PC at this price range in my area.

Specs:
Intel i5-13400F
Noctua NH-D12L CPU fan
B760M-D4 Mobo
6750 XT
32Gb DDR4 3200
1TB SSD
750 watt PSU


EDIT: I ended up selling it for $800.


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Complete Build Guide for beginners


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CPUs
Best Gaming Performance

AMD Ryzen 7800X3D (fastest gaming CPU on average, most efficient in gaming)
Intel Core i9 14900K (fastest in certain games)


Midrange
Intel Core i5 13600K
AMD Ryzen 7600X

Intel 12th-14th Gen and Ryzen 7000 both offer great gaming performance. For gaming performance 7800X3D > 13th/14th Gen > Zen4/12th Gen. But whether you'll be able to make use of the extra performance will depend on various factors, namely resolution. At 1440p and higher the difference between 14900K and 7800X3D is less than 2% with an RTX 4090 (and even less than that with weaker cards). You'll also need to check benchmarks for the game you play; the 7800X3D is the fastet gaming CPU on the market today, but it loses in some games. Intel 12-14th Gen offers better productivity performance in the midrange thanks to the E-cores. Zen4 wins in efficiency under loaded scenarios, though Intel 12th-14th Gen can be more efficient at idle/light loads. Nothing comes close to 7800X3D in gaming efficiency though.

Value:
Intel Core i5 12600K
Ryzen 5 5600

Intel Core i5 12600K is really cheap right now, less than $200 USD. Seems like a good choice for that amount of money. For AM4 users, if you are using Zen1-Zen2, it might make sense to pick up a Ryzen 5 5600 as it will provide a nice performance bump and not cost a lot, could save a bit more going used... AM4 also offers Zen3 3D V-Cache CPUs which perform almost as well as Zen4.

Emulation: 12th-14th Gen and Zen4-Zen4 3D (Ryzen 7000) offer similarly high performance in RPCS3, an emulator for playing PS3 games at higher FPS and resolution on PC according to this RPCS3 tier list.

GPUS
***RTX 40-series Super cards launch imminent, might be a good idea to wait a week to see how prices turn out before buying a GPU***

Ultra High End

RTX 4090 (fastest raster, fastest RT)
RX 7900 XTX (good raster for the price)

Over a year the RTX 4090 is still the fastest GPU on the market. RTX 4090 will remain the fastest GPU for some time longer and has the best upscaling and RT capabilities. RTX 40-series refresh will bring some new choices to the high end market early this year. RX 7900 XTX is a great card if you care more about raster performance and aren't interested as much in upscaling technology. 7900 XT can also be a good price if on sale, if you can make use of the extra RAM.

7900 XTX could make sense if you care more about raster performance per dollar and don't care as much about upscaling or path tracing.

Midrange
RTX 4070
RX 7800 XT

In the mid-range the RTX 4070 and RX 7800 XT are both good choices. 4070 is better in upscaling, efficiancy and RT but the 7800 XT has 33% more VRAM and is slightly faster in raster. These cards are very well suited for 1440p at high refresh rates.

***RTX 40-series Super cards launch imminent, might be a good idea to wait a week to see how prices turn out before buying a GPU***

Entry Level

RTX 4060
RX 6600/7600
Intel Arc A750

Depending on the deals going on any of these cards can make sense at the entry level. These cards are great for 1080p and can even do well at 1440p within reason.

RAM
32 GB DDR4 / 32 GB DDR5
Value: 16 GB DDR4 / 16 GB DDR5

DDR5 pricing has come down a lot in the past year, and is now the better option these days. I'd only recommend a DDR4 system maybe for those on a tight budget or those who already have a good kit of DDR4 that they want to keep using.

SSDs
PCIe 4.0x4 NVMe SSD
Value: PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe SSD, SATA SSD

SSD pricing now is excellent for PCIe4 drives. PCIe5 drives come at a premium, but that's the price you pay for being on the cutting edge.

PSUs
High end graphics cards require more power these days with high end cards now being capable of drawing over 500 watts for overclocked models. So if you're building a system and want the fastest GPU you will need a big PSU. If you stick to mid-range GPUs like RTX 4070 and RX 7800 XT you can get away with a much smaller capacity PSU.

Cases
The most important things for me when it comes to cases is having good airflow and good aesthetics. Choose one that has all the features you want and it can last you for numerous builds.

Monitors
4K120 (or higher refresh)
Value: 1440p144 (or higher refresh)

One of the benefits of PC gaming is the ability to play many games at high refresh. Going to a high refresh monitor could be the best upgrade you can make to your setup if you are still on a 60 hz display. With current gen GPUs many of your old games can be transformed with smoothness.

In 2024, 240 Hz OLED PC monitors are becoming more widespread, with OLED at 240 Hz you get the best of both worlds with image quality and fluidity.

You can save a lot of money by going with a 1440p monitor as that drastically reduces the amount of GPU power you'd need to power those pixels. Refresh technologies like G-Sync, FreeSync and Adaptive Sync are important too, look for monitors with a wide window of adaptive sync for the best gaming experience. Some monitors also have other convieniences like USB porst which can be nice for charging devices or plugging in peripherals.

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Game Pad
Recommended:
Xbox Series Controller
PS5 Dual Sense Controller

Value:
Xbox One Controller, PS4 Controller

Xbox Series controller is fantastic on PC if you play console style games. The Dual Sense is also a fantastic game pad and Steam has Dual Sense integration. Xbox Series controller is cheaper but Dual Sense can be worth it especially if more games take advantage of it's haptic capabilities on PC. If you already have a PS4 or Xbox One controller, there is probably no reason to upgrade. You could even use Xbox 360 and PS3 controllers if you want...

Aside from the standard KB/m, you can get various peripherals like arcade sticks, flight sticks, racing wheels and even dance pads. Good quality specialized controllers like this tend to be a bit more expensive than your standard gamepad, but can add a lot to the gaming experience.

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DLSS 3.5 Ray Reconstruction


Path Tracing


Upscaling Technology


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Overclocking is a way to get even more performance out of your components but it does require a bit of tuning to get things right as things can become unstable if you are not careful. These days, at least on Intel 12th-14th gen, it seems like a better option to try under-volting to reduce power while keeping performance the same (or better).

CPU-Z: Information on your CPU, motherboard and memory
GPU-Z: Information on your GPU and VRAM such as clocks, bandwidth, and power consumption
MSI Afterburner: overclocking utility for GPUs, works on any modern GPU from any vendor, can also be used for under-volting
HWiNFO64: detailed system information, check voltages CPU speeds, RAM speed, HDD usage, etc.

CPU & RAM Benchmarks
Cinebench2024 benchmarking tool
Y-Cruncher stress test and benchmarking tool

GPU Benchmarks
Unigine Superposition benchmarking tool
MSI Kombustor stress test and benchmarking tool

Pricing & Compatibility
PCPartPicker: Good way to see if all your components are compatible and compare prices between components aggregated from various websites.

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Youtube
Gamers Nexus
Digital Foundry

Websites
Anandtech
Techpowerup
Tom's Hardware

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Recommendations need to be updated to 5070 instead of 4070 now that they can be found at or below MSRP even in the US.
 
Sorry that I have not responded to everyone that has contributed to what I posted! It's been extremely busy.

I've decided that I might stretch the budget to 1500-1700. I've not confirmed the deal with this gentlemen(he runs a computer shop, so hes not a random person). I still want to keep it AMD, as I'm not particularly interested in NVIDIA pricing.

My wife said that she'd like to be able to play things well(by that definition, she means in 1080p/1440p) at good frame rates that are currently out, or being able to play anything that might release in the next few years to the same criteria.

She said she's not interested in it being able to do X, Y and Z fancy stuff(she means like Raytracing, etc.). She wants the games she wants to play to run well by default as she doesn't play much with settings at all.

I guess an easier way to say this is, essentially:

Where someone like me can see the value in a PS5 Pro over a base PS5, she doesn't and/or isn't interested.

"Can it play this game I want to play very well on the base unit? Okay good, next."

That make sense? Apply that concept to the PC she's looking for.

Games she plays(or wants to play), just a rough list

Minecraft(with kids)
Roblox(with kids)
Cyberpunk
Oblivion: Remastered
Skyblivion(if it ever releases)
Skyrim
Death Stranding(original game first)
Stardew Valley
Witcher III
Final Fantasy XIV(if she returns to the game again)

I know some of this list is inconsequential as it'll run on a potato, but I wanted to up the budget to give her the possibilities of doing those things, if she wanted or became inclined, or just to further future proof it.

My previous recommendations still stands, but with your expanded budget, bump it up to the 9070 XT (best graphics card AMD makes ) and the 7800X3D and she'll be golden until next console generation. Note the bundle prices may have changed a bit.


Strange, here are the links to the direct products. You'd need to add them to Newegg's builder tool to get the full discounted price. BTW looks like better sales today, I didn't see some of these deals last night so the landscape changed. In fact you can get a 9600X for cheaper than that 7600X and today you get a free 512 GB SSD with the 9600X, and 16GB of RAM with that motherboard. The extra SSD is kind of small but more storage can only help, though I'm not sure how useful that RAM configuration would be - better off with 2 dimms of 32GB to avoid compatibility/stability issues.

Newegg PC Builder Component List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X - Ryzen 5 9000 Series Granite Ridge (Zen 5) 6-Core 3.9 GHz - Socket AM5 65W - Radeon Graphics Processor - 100-100001405WOF ($179.99)
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI AM5 LGA 1718 AMD B650 M-ATX, DDR5, PCIe 4.0 M.2, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5GbE LAN ($139.99)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model CMH32GX5M2E6000C36 ($94.99)
Graphics Cards: SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB GDDR6 PCI Express 5.0 x16 ATX Graphics Card 11350-03-20G ($379.99)
Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series RM850e 850 W ATX 3.1 Compatible Cybenetics Gold Full Modular Power Supply ($119.99)
Storage: WD_BLACK 2TB SN850X NVMe Internal Gaming SSD Solid State Drive - Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280, Up to 7,300 MB/s - WDS200T2X0E ($164.99)
Total: $1,010.94
*Prices are subject to change and exclude shipping, handling, and taxes.
Generated by Newegg PC Builder 2025-06-21 11:03:21 AM



And as for the optional upgrades I mentioned if you have some headroom, in place of the 9600X and/or 9060 XT. They won't be better in terms of price/performance, but might be worth considering. The CPU would last a very long time, and the GPU would have a more noticeable impact in games.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - Ryzen 7 7000 Series Zen 4 8-Core 4.2 GHz - Socket AM5 120W - AMD Radeon Graphics Desktop Processor - 100-100000910WOF ($359.99)
Note: Does not come with the free 512GB SSD, if you care about that.

Graphics Cards: ASRock Challenger Radeon RX 9070 16GB GDDR6 PCI Express 5.0 x16 Graphics Card RX9070 CL 16G ($599.99)
 
My 5070ti purchase: you're all welcome

Only 4% CU increase for 5070 super, no change for the others except increased power limits. The VRAM headroom would be nice, but below 4K/non-VR there probably won't be a meaningful performance increase. These seem like the cards they actually wanted Blackwell to be, prior to the rushed launch.

18GB 5070 super
24GB 5070 ti super
24GB 5080 super
 
Pretty sure my ASRock mobo just fried my ryzen CPU. Not 100% sure, as it's a 9500f and not a 9800x3d but the symptoms are similar. Everything was installed correctly and it had been running just fine for about 3 weeks. Le sigh. I think I'm gonna get a 9600x and a MSI tomahawk to replace them with
 
My 5070ti purchase: you're all welcome

Only 4% CU increase for 5070 super, no change for the others except increased power limits. The VRAM headroom would be nice, but below 4K/non-VR there probably won't be a meaningful performance increase. These seem like the cards they actually wanted Blackwell to be, prior to the rushed launch.

18GB 5070 super
24GB 5070 ti super
24GB 5080 super

Oh that puts a hold on my build, i probably wait until the supers releases then i really want that more v-ram for sure.
 
Since I got a qhd 165hz oled my 2yo 4070 has gone from "enough" to "spend hours in Settings in each game". Would it be a good idea to sell it and get a 9070XT or should I weather until nvidias next gen refresh?
 
Hi all, my old pair of Turtle beach 450 wireless headset needs replacing (i snapped transmitter on accident)
I was happy with the audio and mic etc on these
What would be a good replacement? Budget would be around UK £100, will be looking for deals on prime day. So far it seems Turtle beach stealth 600 gen 3, HyperX cloud 3 seem to be best bets.
 
For those running AMD Ryzens, particularly with the 3D cache what type of operating and load temps are you experiencing/happy with?

Since setting up my new system - my first ever AMD workstation - in a SilverStone desktop case with Noctua NH-L9a-AM5 and just two large case fans drawing in at the CPU - in these hot British Wimbledon weather - I've been keeping the system relatively quiet and getting between 48degs and 55degs at OS idle, up to about 65degs with advert infested/auto video websites in Chrome needing more fan speed and noise, and upto about 70deg with Minecraft doing a full workout, which all feels like 20-25 degs above my old Xeon E5-2697-v2 in similar situations managed causing me to throttle the CPU back to 3Ghz in the windows power profile - unless doing a heavy workload.

Is this expected temp range? Or is my mobo needing voltage tweaks to run the CPU cooler?
 
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For those running AMD Ryzens, particularly with the 3D cache what type of operating and load temps are you experiencing/happy with?

Since setting up my new system - my first ever AMD workstation - in a SilverStone desktop case with Noctua NH-L9a-AM5 and just two large case fans drawing in at the CPU - in these hot British Wimbledon weather - I've been keeping the system relatively quiet and getting between 48degs and 55degs at OS idle, up to about 65degs with advert infested/auto video websites in Chrome needing more fan speed and noise, and upto about 70deg with Minecraft doing a full workout, which all feels like 20-25 degs above my old Xeon E5-2697-v2 in similar situations managed causing me to throttle the CPU back to 3Ghz in the windows power profile - unless doing a heavy workload.

Is this expected temp range? Or is my mobo needing voltage tweaks to run the CPU cooler?

I undervolted mine 9800x3d, pretty sure u can do it with any amd chip. Temps went from 90c to 70c at max stressed. Maybe that works for you.

 
Anyway, as my 4080 laptop died, and had to be send in for repairs i would be without a PC for a good month, so i decided to invest back into a PC again.

Made the following:

- 64gb DDR5 6000mhz
- Palit 5080 RTX
- 9800x3d.
- Noctua D15 ( next generation version of it )
- gigabyte x870 gaming x wifi 7
- some 100 euro case ( biggest mistake i made saving on the dam case, holy shit installing the pc was a nightmare )
- 1200 3.1 power supply.
- I still had SSD's from my laptop so i put them over to the new pc because they where still selling for total of 400 euro's if i needed to rebuy them.

All with all happy with it but some complains about it.

1) 9800x3d

-) I miss intel e-cores, no matter how far i pushed my laptop which had a 12900hx, the e cores would keep my second and 3rd screen if i wanted twitch on it on the side smooth. the 9800x3d in battlefield 2042 almost maxes all cores out which makes a stream lag. I had my doubts about 8 cores being enough and sadly it isn't. I hope AMD pushes more cores in there next cpu on the same ccp or whatever they call it so i can upgrade towards that in the future.

-) Stock the CPU gets really really hot, i saw it hit 90c multiple times at shader compilation as 95c is the cut off spot its just way to hot for my liking. Luckily a undervolt which is easy to do on AMD motherboards it seems like, cut that temp to 70c So that's how i am running it at this point which solved that issue.

2) gigabyte x870 gaming x wifi 7.

Nice motherboard overal, but there seems to be a bug in the bios with secure boot where it doesn't activate, u gotta toggle it on and off to get it enabled, u gotta do this for every bios update sadly. Minor problem so not much to complain about. Other then that it does what it needs to do.

3) noctua D15 ( next generation version of it )

Terrible, installing was easy, but performance is uff. The two coolers make a awful sound at 55+ seems like more people are comping with that problem which results in me having to cap the fans out at 50% of its speed to not sit with that awful noise. It's a 150 euro air cooler so i have no clue how they fucked this up so badly and its not like u can send the dam cooler in for repairs because your pc will be a dud at this point. I bought the cooler for its noise and this is the result. pretty pissed about it.


All with all a nice upgrade over the 4080 laptop which is a 4070 desktop gpu. Still i am sometimes surprised that at lower resolutions the performance gain isn't even that high over the 4080 laptop. But at higher resolutions it shines a bit better. Still solid so far.
 
Anyway, as my 4080 laptop died, and had to be send in for repairs i would be without a PC for a good month, so i decided to invest back into a PC again.

Made the following:

- 64gb DDR5 6000mhz
- Palit 5080 RTX
- 9800x3d.
- Noctua D15 ( next generation version of it )
- gigabyte x870 gaming x wifi 7
- some 100 euro case ( biggest mistake i made saving on the dam case, holy shit installing the pc was a nightmare )
- 1200 3.1 power supply.
- I still had SSD's from my laptop so i put them over to the new pc because they where still selling for total of 400 euro's if i needed to rebuy them.

All with all happy with it but some complains about it.

1) 9800x3d

-) I miss intel e-cores, no matter how far i pushed my laptop which had a 12900hx, the e cores would keep my second and 3rd screen if i wanted twitch on it on the side smooth. the 9800x3d in battlefield 2042 almost maxes all cores out which makes a stream lag. I had my doubts about 8 cores being enough and sadly it isn't. I hope AMD pushes more cores in there next cpu on the same ccp or whatever they call it so i can upgrade towards that in the future.

-) Stock the CPU gets really really hot, i saw it hit 90c multiple times at shader compilation as 95c is the cut off spot its just way to hot for my liking. Luckily a undervolt which is easy to do on AMD motherboards it seems like, cut that temp to 70c So that's how i am running it at this point which solved that issue.

2) gigabyte x870 gaming x wifi 7.

Nice motherboard overal, but there seems to be a bug in the bios with secure boot where it doesn't activate, u gotta toggle it on and off to get it enabled, u gotta do this for every bios update sadly. Minor problem so not much to complain about. Other then that it does what it needs to do.

3) noctua D15 ( next generation version of it )

Terrible, installing was easy, but performance is uff. The two coolers make a awful sound at 55+ seems like more people are comping with that problem which results in me having to cap the fans out at 50% of its speed to not sit with that awful noise. It's a 150 euro air cooler so i have no clue how they fucked this up so badly and its not like u can send the dam cooler in for repairs because your pc will be a dud at this point. I bought the cooler for its noise and this is the result. pretty pissed about it.


All with all a nice upgrade over the 4080 laptop which is a 4070 desktop gpu. Still i am sometimes surprised that at lower resolutions the performance gain isn't even that high over the 4080 laptop. But at higher resolutions it shines a bit better. Still solid so far.
Cheers for the info on the under volting, that gives me some points of reference even if I suspect my choice of Windows Security settings probably are incompatible with using AMD Master, or will fail to boot if I go the bios direct route.

We have the same motherboard and CPU, and I'm running a tiny air cooler compared to yours, so I would re-paste and reseat your cooler, mapping out their airflow directions, with the case fans too and double check there's no colourless sticker on the underside of the heatsink plate or that the cooler is being tightly drawn onto the CPU because running that warm at load without an under volt with a far more effective cooler just seems too high IMO and I would even recheck which fan headers the Noctua's fans are using, so as to make sure it is CPU and CPU OPT, might also be worth checking the 3 PSU leads powering the board aren't on the same ring as the GPU PCIE power cables driving your beefy GPU, in case you are getting sporadic dips on for the ATX power.

I did update my bios from stock using Gigabytes GCC app - think it is now on version 6, but haven't manually downloaded and installed the latest one via UEFI as it requires- and I don't have the toggling secure boot issue you described, but I have only updated the bios once before I got round to upgrading to Win 11, so may experience it on next bios update through GCC.

Noise wise with fans, I'm working the case fans harder by getting them to move based on CPU temps and as the added fan is the quietest, followed by the CPU fan I'm using them in stair mode, with them doing their highest quiet value unless the CPU jumps above 76degs - which it doesn't - and have then set the preinstalled lounder SilverStone fan to a hardly audible 1100RPM with it only rising if the CPU ever hits 80degs, so if those Noctua CPU fans are noisy at 1500RPM then maybe find their sweet spot and mostly lock them there and use the case fans to do more of the cooling work quietly up until 76 or 80 degs would be my strategy.
 
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Help. I need a new pc, mine is getting worse and worse as the weeks go by. I used to have a mate build them but we both moved in opposite directions from our home city. I can't build one myself as the pet filled environment would make assembly a chore, and I might eat the paste instead of applying it.

It's going to have to be some supplier from Amazon and I know it won't be as good as I could get manually making it but when looking on there, they allow for some customization of parts but whenever I check each bit the internet tells me they are the worst thing ever, even if it's rival brands of graphics cards so I'm lost.

Looking to spend £1000 (pounds not dollars) at most. I don't need anything super awesome just enough to be AI proof for the next few years and play stuff to a decent level if I get back into gaming away from the Switch 2.

I don't need a keyboard, monitor or any of that stuff just the PC in a case. Can anyone help me avoid buying some overpriced turd? I know they probably all are when buying a premade one but thought I'd ask.
 
Is there really no one on here that can recommend which processor to get with which graphics card and how much vram to look for?

Guess the DF threads really are just for console warring.
 
Is there really no one on here that can recommend which processor to get with which graphics card and how much vram to look for?

Guess the DF threads really are just for console warring.
I'd wager that being a dick because you haven't had a reply within 14 hours isn't the motivator you think it is.

I've had some excellent help in this thread.
 
So I've got all my pc parts now and hoping they are all decent to do what I want.

One thing holding me back from cracking it all open though is the cost of what I've bought and is it really going to be a big step up from my PS5 really?

I'm hoping it will be a noticeable upgrade but not 100% convinced....
 
So I've got all my pc parts now and hoping they are all decent to do what I want.

One thing holding me back from cracking it all open though is the cost of what I've bought and is it really going to be a big step up from my PS5 really?

I'm hoping it will be a noticeable upgrade but not 100% convinced....
I'd love to give you some assurance…but you leave out many crucial details
 
I'd wager that being a dick because you haven't had a reply within 14 hours isn't the motivator you think it is.

I've had some excellent help in this thread.
Really? I see lots of unanswered queries and a few people posting their own specs. This unhelpful exchange is the most traffic this thread has seen in months.
 
Is there really no one on here that can recommend which processor to get with which graphics card and how much vram to look for?

Guess the DF threads really are just for console warring.
I did have a look at https://www.awd-it.co.uk/ for you - I used a decade ago for a pre-oveclocked i7,mobo, RAM and Cooler bundle and was going to reply yesterday with advice of increasing your budget by £150-200.

The effective prebuild tax stopping you getting something at a Ryzen 5 7xxx with six or eight cores - meaning DDR5 rather than DDR4 for a Ryzen 5 5xxx - with a 12GB RTX 5070/ti, but with a caveat of needing to source your own retail boxed sealed Windows 10 pro with usb stick media (£40-£30) off ebay, but wanted to wait and see if anyone made a better recommendation first for your budget, maybe at a RTX 5060 level.
 
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I'd love to give you some assurance…but you leave out many crucial details
Haha good point

CPU is a 7600x
GPU is Sapphire Pulse 9070xt
1 tb Kingston SSD
Crucial ddr5 32gb RAM
Asus Rog strix B650E-I motherboard
Coolermaster max V2 with built in cooler and 850w power supply

I'm hoping for 60fps for everything minimum at 1440p
 
I did have a look at https://www.awd-it.co.uk/ for you - I used a decade ago for a pre-oveclocked i7,mobo, RAM and Cooler bundle and was going to reply yesterday with advice of increasing your budget by £150-200.

The effective prebuild tax stopping you getting something at a Ryzen 5 7xxx with six or eight cores - meaning DDR5 rather than DDR4 for a Ryzen 5 5xxx - with a 12GB RTX 5070/ti, but with a caveat of needing to source your own retail boxed sealed Windows 10 pro with usb stick media (£40-£30) off ebay, but wanted to wait and see if anyone made a better recommendation first for your budget, maybe at a RTX 5060 level.
I could up the price if it's going to last years.

On Amazon they have this

CyberPowerPC Luxe Gaming PC - Intel Core i9-12900KF, Nvidia RTX 5070 Ti 16GB, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, 750W 80+ PSU, Wi-Fi, Liquid Cooling, Windows 11, Ark RGB


But then you can change the intel for various AMD Ryzen 7's and that's where I'm getting confused. I don't know what combo is best and googling is no help as it's all 1* "trash" no doubt wirtten by fanboys not actual owners.
 
Haha good point

CPU is a 7600x
GPU is Sapphire Pulse 9070xt
1 tb Kingston SSD
Crucial ddr5 32gb RAM
Asus Rog strix B650E-I motherboard
Coolermaster max V2 with built in cooler and 850w power supply

I'm hoping for 60fps for everything minimum at 1440p
Bro…that system will blow the fucking hinges off the PS5. 1440p/60 is low for that system. On many games you'll get around 120-240.

I love giving gamers great news!
 
I could up the price if it's going to last years.

On Amazon they have this

CyberPowerPC Luxe Gaming PC - Intel Core i9-12900KF, Nvidia RTX 5070 Ti 16GB, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, 750W 80+ PSU, Wi-Fi, Liquid Cooling, Windows 11, Ark RGB


But then you can change the intel for various AMD Ryzen 7's and that's where I'm getting confused. I don't know what combo is best and googling is no help as it's all 1* "trash" no doubt wirtten by fanboys not actual owners.
As a gaming or mid to high-end platform Intel has been losing most of us by moving away from doing chips with identical cores(symmetrical) and now only do a mix of traditional power cpu cores called P-cores and low power, repetitive worker efficiency cores called e-cores, (an asymmetrical CPU) and can't lock down a socket to reuse across multiple chip gens, unlike AMD that are all P-core chips and have done well through the AM4/AM5 socket bridging. That system you are looking at is already on a dead architecture.

Intel also had a disaster with their chips and mobo chipsets reliability in recent years further making a case for the superior performing AMD Ryzens. I've bought Intel forever, and my latest build is my first build with an AMD CPU.

Personally I would look to go AM5 with at least the previous model Ryzen 7600x as mentioned above and pair with a Nvidia RTX (5060 or better) or AMD 9070 or better if AI is important.
 
Bro…that system will blow the fucking hinges off the PS5. 1440p/60 is low for that system. On many games you'll get around 120-240.

I love giving gamers great news!
Really? Are those frames at 1440p as well?

That's awesome if true thanks man!

I'll be connecting it to my Samsung TV as well - that won't impact it too much will it?
 
Really? Are those frames at 1440p as well?

That's awesome if true thanks man!

I'll be connecting it to my Samsung TV as well - that won't impact it too much will it?
Depends on if it's an HDMI 2.1 TV.

And yes at 1440p you can easily expect many games to run well over 60 fps.

The only time you may not get above 60 is if you enable demanding ray tracing like path tracing.

The 9070XT can now handle RT at 1440p above 60 fps in many cases.
 
Depends on if it's an HDMI 2.1 TV.

And yes at 1440p you can easily expect many games to run well over 60 fps.

The only time you may not get above 60 is if you enable demanding ray tracing like path tracing.

The 9070XT can now handle RT at 1440p above 60 fps in many cases.
Yeah it's a 2.1 TV so should be all good - dumb question though...does the TV hdmi cable go in the GPU connection or the Motherboard connector?

Not fussed about ray tracing - will always take performance over that.
 
As a gaming or mid to high-end platform Intel has been losing most of us by moving away from doing chips with identical cores(symmetrical) and now only do a mix of traditional power cpu cores called P-cores and low power, repetitive worker efficiency cores called e-cores, (an asymmetrical CPU) and can't lock down a socket to reuse across multiple chip gens, unlike AMD that are all P-core chips and have done well through the AM4/AM5 socket bridging. That system you are looking at is already on a dead architecture.

Intel also had a disaster with their chips and mobo chipsets reliability in recent years further making a case for the superior performing AMD Ryzens. I've bought Intel forever, and my latest build is my first build with an AMD CPU.

Personally I would look to go AM5 with at least the previous model Ryzen 7600x as mentioned above and pair with a Nvidia RTX (5060 or better) or AMD 9070 or better if AI is important.
Everything I can find seems to have a B650 but that's outdated apparently?
 
Depends on the processor you get. Which Ryzen are you looking at? Do you have links for PC builds that interest you?
I'm lost and going round and round in circles here.

Whichever Ryzen processor and and Nvidia card is the "best" I can get for £1,500ish. But on Amazon most don't say what the motherboard is, just a vague AM4 or AM5 in the product description.
 
I'm lost and going round and round in circles here.

Whichever Ryzen processor and and Nvidia card is the "best" I can get for £1,500ish. But on Amazon most don't say what the motherboard is, just a vague AM4 or AM5 in the product description.
You sure you don't want to build your own? It is way easier than you think, especially with AMD processors. You can get so much more bang for your buck, or quack for your quid, in the UK.

UK PC Part Picker
 
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I'm lost and going round and round in circles here.

Whichever Ryzen processor and and Nvidia card is the "best" I can get for £1,500ish. But on Amazon most don't say what the motherboard is, just a vague AM4 or AM5 in the product description.

Definitely use pc part picker. Probably something like Nvidia 5070 and a Ryzen 9600x.
 
Is a 5090 safe if you use a 3.1 power supply or is it better to go with a lesser gpu? I hear that amd is not good with vr.
In theory yes, but unless you plan to power limit, you need to get at least a 1000W gold PSU. Melting connectors do happen, but they are rare. Not non-existent, but rare.

You can get by with 850W is you use an AMD CPU. They consume FAR LESS power than Intel CPUs.
 
The GPU....

I'm not gonna lie....that question worries me.
Hey, it is my very first time building and using a PC!:messenger_tears_of_joy: I did google it afterwards as well.

My PC is built now and seems to be working OK shockingly! Had a nightmare day and night yesterday.

Ran Cinebench today and CPU temps looked good so hopefully that will be all OK.

Installed and setting up Playnite now - got Steam, Gog and Epic linked but Xbox (not surprisingly...) wont authenticate and work.

Might actually get to play a game at some point....
 
Hey, it is my very first time building and using a PC!:messenger_tears_of_joy: I did google it afterwards as well.

My PC is built now and seems to be working OK shockingly! Had a nightmare day and night yesterday.

Ran Cinebench today and CPU temps looked good so hopefully that will be all OK.

Installed and setting up Playnite now - got Steam, Gog and Epic linked but Xbox (not surprisingly...) wont authenticate and work.

Might actually get to play a game at some point....
A tip for configuring games:
  1. PC Gaming Wiki
  2. Steam Guides (filter by setup and configuration)

Between both you should be able to pick up little tips and ways to either optimise settings or make QoL changes like skipping annoying menus.

Be skeptical of Steam guides' performance tweaks though, they can contain outdated/unhelpful info. I tend to look for the most recent postings and avoid ones that look like someone trying to get a game running on a potato from the 1920s.
 
Fucking Pcie lane bifurcation…had to reinstall all my M2's to get Pcie 5.0 16x for my gpu grrr
I think the MSI X670E/X870E godlike, MSI X670E Ace, and Asrock X870E Nova are the only boards where you don't have to compromise with the gen5 lanes for PCIe and NVMe slots.
 
As an update, it looks like it wasn't my CPU that was fried, my mobo just shat the bed one month in. I'm not sure why or what happened, but I'm just gonna get a new one. Anyone have any recs that are similar in function and price to the steel legend b650 that, erm, aren't the steel legend b650?
 
As an update, it looks like it wasn't my CPU that was fried, my mobo just shat the bed one month in. I'm not sure why or what happened, but I'm just gonna get a new one. Anyone have any recs that are similar in function and price to the steel legend b650 that, erm, aren't the steel legend b650?
What about the b850 Steel Legend?
 
Is Pcie 5.0 16x even necessary for a GPU? Any real world advantages?

I mean I'm running a 650e board but I never really got all the techno babble.
 
Is Pcie 5.0 16x even necessary for a GPU? Any real world advantages?

I mean I'm running a 650e board but I never really got all the techno babble.
Others maybe have more detailed insight but my understanding is that even a 5090 isn't hamstrung by 4.0. Don't worry about it.
 
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Is Pcie 5.0 16x even necessary for a GPU? Any real world advantages?

I mean I'm running a 650e board but I never really got all the techno babble.
The advantage of 5.0 is that if I install some m.2 nvme drives that need bandwidth (or other add-in cards), I can drop the GPU down to 5.0 x8 instead of x16 and still be totally fine. 5.0 less you do the same with less lanes since the bandwidth doubles with every pcie generation.

With SSDs the higher bandwidth means you can run faster drives (whether the faster speed matters for most is another story), but in general the main benefit is being able to use less lanes than before.
 
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As an update, it looks like it wasn't my CPU that was fried, my mobo just shat the bed one month in. I'm not sure why or what happened, but I'm just gonna get a new one. Anyone have any recs that are similar in function and price to the steel legend b650 that, erm, aren't the steel legend b650?
MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi has been rock solid for me
 
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