Banning console ID would screw used console buyers.
I spent $420 just in online access this generation
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Banning console ID would screw used console buyers.
Goldenroad
Member
Hetty bro
I've spent like $50 a month on my internet access for the last 10 years or so, so I don't even want to think about what that adds up to.
I've spent like $50 a month on my internet access for the last 10 years or so, so I don't even want to think about what that adds up to.
I spent $4000 on my last car.
Beermeister
Banned
$0. Good times.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
What stops the people from buying headsets on PSN?
Why couldn't they have just purchased a blutooth headset for 7 dollars beforehand?
Exactly.
I played Dark Arisen a few weeks ago. I'm wondering what I should play online besides the usual NHL, FIFA. And... There's no rednecks on those games, but if I played Madden...
Well I don't agree with a perm ban, maybe a 2 week slap on the wrist.
Grinchy
Banned
In that analogy, Xbox Live would be like a monthly fee that allowed you to open your door for guests.
Xbones "improved" service would be the equivalent of a search of your house once every 24 hours, by whoever sold the house and handed over the keys year ago.
Neuromancer
Member
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. If MS is spending money to build, maintain and improve a service I think it's fairly reasonable to charge for it. Obviously it'd be really nice if it were free, but then again lots of things would be free in a perfect world and aren't: electricity, water, health care, etc.
Thug Waffle
Member
It comes out to a game a year. To me, that's a decent enough price. Could be worse.
XBox: $0 - Had Gold for a month free from GTAIV; didn't see the value proposition. Only thing it would have given me is online play in deathmatch stuff, and FIFA (where people can't play football anyway)
PS3: $25 : Signed up last year to PS+; one of the best decisions; and one of the best things about this gen. Only regret is I didn't do it a lot earlier.
Because people like you pay $420 to have it?
PS3: $25 : Signed up last year to PS+; one of the best decisions; and one of the best things about this gen. Only regret is I didn't do it a lot earlier.
Because people like you pay $420 to have it?
Grinchy
Banned
And Kinect would be like a mentally retarded butler who only understood specific requests and then carried them out sluggishly.
POWERSPHERE
Member
The problem is it's now a proven, successful model. One that i'm hoping won't be more intrinsically linked into the general function of the new console, but probably will.
I remember saying that when ps3 launched. Got called a fanboy lol.
I've always thought they should give you a free month when you buy a new game. That way you get more people to buy new games and buy more frequently.
SolidusDave
Member
This was actually my line of thought back then.
That and getting a "free" blu-ray player within a console.
No one really wanted to consider this argument though. Still don't know why so many people accepted paying for what is mostly the lifting of artificial restrictions placed on the free users. I guess now that PS+ gets more positive talk, Gold looks less great (even though they are basically two different things anyway).
Its not hard to find them. The $20 deal I mentioned was posted on this very forum. A place like Cheapassgamer is another great resource for finding this stuff. The most I spent on a one year Xbox Live subscription was $45 back in early 2010.
People seem to forget that someone has to pay for that online infrastructure one way or the other. On PS3, its up to the developers and publishers to pay for all the servers since there's subscription no fees to cover them (and PS+ doesn't help with this since its basically a game rental program, those "free" games on really not free). On PC, people have to either rent servers, or spend money making their own servers for their games.
On Xbox Live, while companies (such as EA) run their own servers, many other games do not. They link to Xbox Live servers so people can keep playing those games online. I sincerely doubt I would still be able to play older titles such as Senko No Ronde or Perfect Dark Zero online if Xbox Live was free.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I've never paid for live and never will.
Before my xbox broke I got 2 free months with halo 3 I think and another month with gta4 (I think, could have been another game)
But I've never had gold outside of that.
I still feel dirty for even buying a 360 to begin with
Before my xbox broke I got 2 free months with halo 3 I think and another month with gta4 (I think, could have been another game)
But I've never had gold outside of that.
I still feel dirty for even buying a 360 to begin with
Live was the primary reason I never bought an Xbox 360. In fact, that was the reason I bought a Playstation 3 even way back in 2007. After all this time, I haven't any regrets regarding that decision.
There are a myriad of reasons I'll be avoiding the One.
There are a myriad of reasons I'll be avoiding the One.
What servers? Xbox Live is an authentication service and then for online gaming, you connect to someone else's xbox who is the "server". Microsoft is not providing you a server-client multiplayer game service. They're facilitating a centralized ecosystem where gamers connect to each other where one Xbox is the server and the other Xboxes are the hosts. EA has just made it so they can shut down the player's ability to connect to each other for multiplayer on their games when they have reached the ripe old age of 18 months.
Freezie KO
Banned
I hope Sony and Nintendo keep online multiplayer free.
MGS MetallicA
Banned
I can't believe how some people can't see how much of a COMPLETE RIPOFF Live is, the sad part is that some people actually think it's "worth it".
I'd kinda understand if MS went out of their way and offered dedicated servers for games, but most games run online MP via P2P!!
PS4 will have no more processing/OS issues making the online experience even better like introducing the cross chat, PSN will at least match Live while being completely free, PS+ is such a bargain and is completely optional, Gotta Love Sony today.
I'd kinda understand if MS went out of their way and offered dedicated servers for games, but most games run online MP via P2P!!
PS4 will have no more processing/OS issues making the online experience even better like introducing the cross chat, PSN will at least match Live while being completely free, PS+ is such a bargain and is completely optional, Gotta Love Sony today.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Could never pay for online but Microsoft has a grip on that market and it's kinda understandable why people continue to do so.
jadedm17
Member
You're doing it wrong, there's deals all the time. I pay $45ish a year, so $315 tops. I'd say I spent about $250, and do I regret it? My time playing Gears and Halo online say NO. Worth every cent*.
*Mostly. Fuck you Gears 2 matchmaking and glitchfest nonsense.
I play shooters so I HATE the dualshock with the fire of a thousands suns. (Love the 360 pad. Love my PS portables.)
Also I've spent too many times using my roommates PS3 or the 60GB PS3 I owned briefly only to have to suffer a painfully slow mandatory update to play a game or be unable to watch a blu ray. Given most of these situations are years old but I got sick of not being able to do things with the PS3s in my life.
Note : PS3 gave me Journey, so I do have love, just not enough to pay for the system. Looks like its time for me to build a PC.
*Mostly. Fuck you Gears 2 matchmaking and glitchfest nonsense.
I play shooters so I HATE the dualshock with the fire of a thousands suns. (Love the 360 pad. Love my PS portables.)
Also I've spent too many times using my roommates PS3 or the 60GB PS3 I owned briefly only to have to suffer a painfully slow mandatory update to play a game or be unable to watch a blu ray. Given most of these situations are years old but I got sick of not being able to do things with the PS3s in my life.
Note : PS3 gave me Journey, so I do have love, just not enough to pay for the system. Looks like its time for me to build a PC.
Had a grip. With zero games from this gen playable on the next, they really dropped the ball in ensuring people continue with their platform. Now there's nothing lost if we all jump ship to a different console maker next gen. Backward compatibility could have been key in ensuring repeat customers. But with nothing but a gamertag tieing you to next gen on the same platform, that's not really enough.
MGS MetallicA
Banned
Controller is a preference and there are ways to play using your 360 pad without any lag on the PS3 btw. I personally prefer the DS by far.
Microsoft announcing Live as a free service is what they need to FINALLY get some positive feedback for the Xbone, but since it's M$ after all that won't happen in a million years, they want to give you a POS console and charge you on top of that yearly fees to play it online, SO MUCH FAIL.
You lost tbh
It was 16 bucks on psn with all dlc a couple weeks ago
Didn't you get banned?
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
420?!?!?!?
I'm sure that's no coincidence, YOU POTHEAD!
;P
I'm sure that's no coincidence, YOU POTHEAD!
;P
Deified Data
Banned
$0. Feels good.
NorthernAvengeR
Banned
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I think i spent $40 for 14 months plus i got like 3months +1 months free with my 360. I am most likely won't resubscribe considering none of my friends are barely on anymore. It started being like that after Halo 4 came out. We used to play Reach/Halo 3 at least 3 times a week now ever since the Halo 4 debacle its being like once every month or two.
MS killed the only reason there ever was to even sub to Xbox Live.
MS killed the only reason there ever was to even sub to Xbox Live.
MaxwellGT2000
Member
I have never spent a dime on online access other than my ISP, and now with Xbox One coming out hot off the heels of the success of fooling people into paying twice for online access, I'm actually quite proud of that fact.
Holy shit, assuming that is over 8 years, or worse, 18 cents a day. Do you know how many children in Africa you could have saved? Not that it I somehow think
you care about, but a half dozen kids would have been well fed.
But I hate to imagine that video subscriptions is where your love for the poor ends.
Lets say you bought ten games a year at full price for 4800 dollars over the last 8 years. Your contribution to Ea, activision, ms and Sony, well none of that money went to a good place, p. good to know you cared.
you care about, but a half dozen kids would have been well fed.
But I hate to imagine that video subscriptions is where your love for the poor ends.
Lets say you bought ten games a year at full price for 4800 dollars over the last 8 years. Your contribution to Ea, activision, ms and Sony, well none of that money went to a good place, p. good to know you cared.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
This right here is what I will walk over. not the DRM, not the other bullshit. I realized XBL was a ripoff after 1 year, switched consoles, and it saved me a bit of money in the long-term. VF5 vanilla 360 exclusive was the only reason I got a 360 in the first place.
If Sony tries to make me pay the XBL idiot tax next-gen, I'm done with Sony.
Yes, Xbox Live is a service, but it still has to run on servers. Those servers have to manage all the people running on the service. Yes, a lot of games run on Peer-to-Peer and Listen Server connections, but something still has to direct those connections accordingly.
I spent 100 for Gold family and I almost never used it.
I won't make that BIG mistake again.