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TheWiicast said:
I'm "married". Committed to one person. We're best friends, partners, worst enemies and in love. We are also Men. Men are not monogamous creatures... especially in pairs. We've watched countless relationships shattered by "cheating" when in reality it's just instinct for men. We understand, that as a couple, we're emotionally dedicated to one another and we make love. We don't fuck. We fuck boys from the bar because that's what they're there for. The idea of only having sex with one person is purely religious in origin, which neither of us are.
Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy and just reinforcing a negative stereotype? I can't imagine that your sampling for this observation is reflective of the whole at all. Of course, that's not to say that it can't be healthy for you and your partner, especially since you seem to understand each other.
 
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i_am_ben said:
didn't you recently do a bareback film?
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I'm having flashbacks to that episode of Six Feet Under when David
goes bareback once and gets an STD.
(Minor season two(?) spoilers) Gay men, well gay couples, alway make me think of Six Feet Under. <3 Keith and David.
 
Roto13 said:
Sweeping generalizations about men are not speaking for one's self.

Far more qualified men have made the same assertions. It's a biological drive. Whether you choose to ignore it or not, it's part of what makes up the male being.
 
ninj4junpei said:
Gay men, well gay couples, alway make me think of Six Feet Under. <3 Keith and David.

I wasn't going to say anything but fucking same here, just because they're married and in an open relationship too, I guess.
 
Go WiiCast. Good comeback.

As how you should feel? Breach of trust, at most. Probably wouldn't go near that dude again.
 
Blair said:
You are a fucking shit poster.


REEEEAL TAAAALK


-fuck it, slamming that idiot on ignore, waste of my eyes reading some thread shitters rubbish

I'm Commander Sai-kun, and "Shitposter" is one of my favorite terms on the internet.
 
Came here to check out the thread and left pretty annoyed at that one dude who said an insulting opinion and absolutely refuses to discuss it in a forum.

What kind of shit is that? I didn't know what a bad poster truly was until today.
 
krypt0nian said:
Far more qualified men have made the same assertions. It's a biological drive. Whether you choose to ignore it or not, it's part of what makes up the male being.
More qualified men? The hell are you talking about? Again, perhaps there are different types of men, and the difference may lie in biology, psychology, or in both. But don't sweep monogamous men in with you bunch. I understand that some people don't care for monogamy, but don't pretend like that's everyone for some unknown misguided reason.
 
msv said:
More qualified men? The hell are you talking about? Again, perhaps there are different types of men, and the difference may lie in biology, psychology, or in both. But don't sweep monogamous men in with you bunch. I understand that some people don't care for monogamy, but don't pretend like that's everyone for some unknown misguided reason.


Monogamous men deny this urge.
 
krypt0nian said:
Monogamous men deny this urge.
You don't see how this is presumptuous? And what urge are you talking about? Of course you can be attracted to other people, but there's also an urge to be monogamous, which is far greater. But going by your strange stance on this, I presume you have no such urge? I don't get why you so badly need it to be a biological thing, something that's the same for everyone? Just face it, people differ.
 
ninj4junpei said:
Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy and just reinforcing a negative stereotype?
It isn't when you extend it to women. Neither men nor women are naturally monogamous, monogamy is socially constructed.
 
Neo C. said:
It isn't when you extend it to women. Neither men nor women are naturally monogamous, monogamy is socially constructed.
How did you verify this hypothesis? People here need to stop talking out of their ass.
 
t-storm said:
Agreed. OP sounds extremely misguided.

Misguided because he doesn't follow societal norms? He knows who he is and what he wants. He has defined his relationship to his partner. it's a free world and he's an adult. He can do whatever he wants.

Just because he doesn't subscribe to your notions of what is an acceptable lifestyle doesn't make him wrong.
 
Rocket Punch said:
Misguided because he doesn't follow societal norms? He knows who he is and what he wants. He has defined his relationship to his partner. it's a free world and he's an adult. He can do whatever he wants.

Just because he doesn't subscribe to your notions of what is an acceptable lifestyle doesn't make him wrong.
I think he was referring to the OP's sweeping generalizations, which is exactly what you're complaining about.
 
I'm sure there are men out there who submit to their biological urges and have sex with thousands of other men every month, but saying that any man who doesn't do that is fooling himself is fucking odd. There are probably more men out there happy in monogamous relationships than there are men out there who are feeling bad because they don't know they should be having polyrelational sex. Speak for yourselves.
 
PhoenixDark said:
I can't possibly imagine non-monogamous ones lasting longer though, even in cases like the OP's where both people agree to terms.
It's ridicolous to compare them. Polygomous relationships don't neccesarily try to last by definition.

EDIT: Shit. I meant poly. Disregard.
 
krypt0nian said:
Monogamous men deny this urge.

That's like saying we deny the urge to bash people's heads in with sticks and throw faeces at each other when threatened. Totally moronic over-simplification of some aspect of biology you heard about.
 
msv said:
I think he was referring to the OP's sweeping generalizations, which is exactly what you're complaining about.

Oh please, you can delude yourself all you want but you can't take away from the fact that we are evolved animals and no matter how much social construct you are fed a human being, males in particular have a natural tendency towards diversity of sex partners.

That people define their relationship as monogamous is a decision not based on nature but nurture. ie society and religion.This is clearly evident in the natural kingdom from which we come from.
 
PhoenixDark said:
I can't possibly imagine non-monogamous ones lasting longer though, even in cases like the OP's where both people agree to terms.

I know plenty that have and plenty that have failed.

Monogamous and Non.
 
Rocket Punch said:
Oh please, you can delude yourself all you want but you can't take away from the fact that we are evolved animals and no matter how much social construct you are fed a human being, males in particular have a natural tendency towards diversity of sex partners.

That people define their relationship as monogamous is a decision not based on nature but nurture. ie society and religion.This is clearly evident in the natural kingdom from which we come from.
The fuck, are you really serious here?

Here:
Misguided because he doesn't follow societal norms? He knows who he is and what he wants. He has defined his relationship to his partner. it's a free world and he's an adult. He can do whatever he wants.

Just because he doesn't subscribe to your notions of what is an acceptable lifestyle doesn't make him wrong.
You're complaining about someone you think is complaining about his lifestyle. And now you're complaining about people who prefer a monogamous lifestyle? Sod off you fricking hypocrite.

And your hypothesis that monogamy is based on nurture not nature has no grounds whatsoever. So kindly fuck off with your nonsensical gibberish. Geez, is it really that much of an issue to you if you someone prefers monogamy? Bunch of Freudians in here thinking they can extrapolate their self-analysis to the rest of the population.
 
msv said:
The fuck, are you really serious here?

Here:

You're complaining about someone you think is complaining about his lifestyle. And now you're complaining about people who prefer a monogamous lifestyle? Sod off you fricking hypocrite.

And your hypothesis that monogamy is based on nurture not nature has no grounds whatsoever. So kindly fuck off with your nonsensical gibberish. Geez, is it really that much of an issue to you if you someone prefers monogamy? Bunch of Freudians in here thinking they can extrapolate their self-analysis to the rest of the population.

Wow you sure told me with your insults. Go back and re-read before you start talking nonsense lil boy. I didn't complain about anything. Are you hearing voices too?
 
Rocket Punch said:
Wow you sure told me with your insults. Go back and re-read before you start talking nonsense lil boy.
I called you out on a couple of things, prove me wrong and I'll apologize.
 
Zenith said:
That's like saying we deny the urge to bash people's heads in with sticks and throw faeces at each other when threatened. Totally moronic over-simplification of some aspect of biology you heard about.

It is an over-simplification, and almost seems to look down upon monogamous relationships from an evolutionary perceptive - although I certainly don't want to put words in Krytonian's mouth here. I don't agree it's "moronic" though, it's just an opinion I disagree with

The ability to resist primal urges separates humans from other animals. Society and norms have a lot to do with this yes, but I just don't get the argument that man should throw these things out the window and do whatever. If applied beyond relationships, that would determine we should act violent, fearful, selfish, etc. I don't think those things appeal to us today. And neither do non-monogamous relationships, at least for a vast majority of people.
 
msv said:
I called you out on a couple of things, prove me wrong and I'll apologize.

I think you're confused and I don't have the inclination to "prove" anything. Relationships are what you make them to be. You cannot be wrong about what you decide what your relationship should be.

I wasn't telling people how to live their lives. I was merely stating that judging how other choose to define their relationships is foolish and narrow-minded.
 
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