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According to a screenshot making its rounds on some forums, Microsoft's answer to Mozilla's Firefox, Internet Explorer 7, might be in its alpha stage. The about IE shows a build of 0719, and another screenshot shows what appears to be tabbed browsing. No mention of a leak yet, but if these screenshots are confirmed to be real, then a leak is definitely inevitable.

http://www.flexbeta.net/main/comments.php?catid=1&shownews=13097

 

[Saki]

This is allllllll I need
http://www.getfirefox.com/

 

[Boomer]

where is the tabbed browsing? i've never used firefox

edit: nevermind i see

 

[Hitokage]

That could also be something somebody made up in Firefox with a little XUL knowhow.

 

[aoi tsuki]

Given the recent number of fakes posted on the gaming forum, i'm calling fake until we get the actual alpha.

 

[sefskillz]

That could also be something somebody made up in Firefox with a little XUL knowhow.

I did a report for my web technologies class a few years ago called XUL (zool) is cool. Yea. That's all.

 

[scorcho]

those pictures have been floating around almost all the beta news sites the last few weeks and more than several have substantiated them as being real. i personally don't care if they're fakes, official mock-ups or the real thing however. microsoft already stated that IE 7.0 will have tabs and tighter integration into msn, and that's what the release pictures show to a T.

 

[tedtropy]

Nice to see even Microsoft indirectly admitt Firefox is a surperior browser. That said, I suspect I'll be sticking with Firefox for awhile to come...

 

[pestul]

Well isn't that innovation for you..

 

[xnipx]

Hey guys firefox didnt invent tabbed browsing......thanks goodbye

 

[pestul]

Hey guys firefox didnt invent tabbed browsing......thanks goodbye

MS has openly criticized tabbed browsing in the past.. thanks goodbye.

 

[retardboy]

Nice to see even Microsoft indirectly admitt Firefox is a surperior browser. That said, I suspect I'll be sticking with Firefox for awhile to come...

How so? There are many browers with tabs. Even IE has tabs if you want to download a 3rd party program. MS even said they didn't wanna put tabs in IE because there are so many 3rd party companies that released tabs for IE and you could just download those so what's the point?

 

[God's Hand]

MS has been using tabs in a lot of their apps, including Excel, Access, and many others. So stop with the B.S. about innovation here.

 

[scorcho]

tabs are an innovative way to browse. firefox didn't start the trend. firefox is the most popular browser not based on IE to popularize a tabbed interface for web browsing. IE 7.0 will have tabs to compete. the end.

 

[hobbitx]

What about security and functionality, will I be able to also customize them with pretty sparkly skins as well?

 

[tedtropy]

How so? There are many browers with tabs. Even IE has tabs if you want to download a 3rd party program. MS even said they didn't wanna put tabs in IE because there are so many 3rd party companies that released tabs for IE and you could just download those so what's the point?

And yet...it's a prominent feature of its upcoming browser. And Microsoft recommending a third-party alternative to something? I have a hard time buying that one, but if you say so.

 

[CaptainABAB]

From the IE blog...

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/05/16/417732.aspx

Yes, IE7 has tabs.

In general, I think tabs are a great idea. I liked them a lot in Office dialogs and in Excel in the early 90's. (I used to work on Office, and I admit we almost added tabs to Word at one point.) I like them in Visual Studio. I think, as an industry, we have a ways to go in refining the experience, consistency, and value of tabs.

The main goal for tabs in our beta release is to make sure our implementation delivers on compatibility and security. The variety of IE configurations and add-ins across the Internet is tremendous. We want feedback on how it works with add-ins that you run (or have written), with the sites that you visit, and with the line of business applications, accessibility tools, management and development tools that you run. We’ve also looked closely at reported vulnerabilities in other implementations of tabbed browsing. We’re looking forward to feedback from the security community as well.

The tabbed browsing experience in the upcoming IE7 beta is pretty basic. Expect additional end-user functionality to come in after the beta.

You can browse with tabs with IE6 (and some earlier IE versions) today in a few different ways. Several third parties, like Maxthon, have built browser experiences with tabs on top of the IE platform. Several third parties have built toolbars to provide tabs within IE as well. MSN’s recently released toolbar will also be providing support for tabs within IE when they update it in the coming months.

I think all of these are great! They demonstrate how extensible the IE platform is. They also provide tabbed browsing in IE on top of Windows versions (like Win98) that IE7 will not support.

Some people have asked why we didn’t put tabs in IE sooner. Initially, we had some concerns around complexity and consistency… will it confuse users more than it benefits them? Is it confusing if IE has tabs, but other core parts of the Windows experience, like Windows Media Player or the shell, don’t have tabs? I think we made the wrong decision here initially, and we’re making the right one now. I’d like to ask you to post a comment with your favorite or most critical IE add-ins… we want to make sure IE7 works great with them.

Dean
posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 1:31 AM

 

[bionic77]

Just another prime example of how good competition is for the consumer.

 

[Bigfonzie]

I wont get this, why do what they want you to do.


Firefox for life!

 

[maharg]

I use firefox and I still say fuck tabs.

 

[Diablos]

Fuck IE. I've been using Mandriva Linux 10.2 for a couple days and it's so much better than Windows.

Firefox > Mozilla > Opera > Netscape > DOS browser > IE.

 

[Joe]

once IE goes to tabbed browsing im switching from firefox back to IE.

 

[Diablos]

once IE goes to tabbed browsing im switching from firefox back to IE.

You better hope it can block as many popups and magically stop installing 10 ActiveX apps behind your back over the course of an hour of browsing.

 

[Tommie Hu$tle]

once IE goes to tabbed browsing im switching from firefox back to IE.

No thanks extensions make the world go round.

 

[MIMIC]

Nice to see even Microsoft indirectly admitt Firefox is a surperior browser. That said, I suspect I'll be sticking with Firefox for awhile to come...

Superior browser? Doesn't java ass-rape firefox users or something?

 

[Diablos]

Superior browser? Doesn't java ass-rape firefox users or something?

Browsing a forum that happens to have an ad which then happens to open 10 pop up windows which then instantly install spyware apps tends to rape IE users a lot more.

 

[Ryudo]

You better hope it can block as many popups and magically stop installing 10 ActiveX apps behind your back over the course of an hour of browsing.

Well stop fucking visiting warez and crack sites.

 

[MIMIC]

Browsing a forum that happens to have an ad which then happens to open 10 pop up windows which then instantly install spyware apps tends to rape IE users a lot more.

Must be an interesting forum.

SP2 blocks pop-ups anyway.

 

[demi]

Sweet, IE hasn't let me down yet.

 

[Diablos]

Must be an interesting forum.

SP2 blocks pop-ups anyway.

Not nearly as well as Firefox does.
You don't need to go to Warez and pr0n sites to get spyware, kids!

 

[MIMIC]

If Firefox was as popular as IE is, it would be in the same position.

And as its popularity grows, so does its security exploits.

 

[Diablos]

Not when it's open source and new revisions of the browser are made on a constant basis.

 

[MIMIC]

That doesn't discourage the people from trying to break into it.

 

[Diablos]

That doesn't discourage the people from trying to break into it.

Sure it does. The Firefox development community responds to security leaks faster than MS ever will with IE.

 

[MIMIC]

Sure it does. The Firefox development community responds to security leaks faster than MS ever will with IE.

That's contradictory. Them having to respond frequently to security leaks means that people are and will continue to find exploits.

 

[Diablos]

That's contradictory. Them having to respond frequently to security leaks means that people are and will continue to find exploits.

They typically will find an exploit before it becomes well-known. It's more often than not the opposite with MS.

Besides, you the user should not care how it's done, just that it IS and is readily avaiable to YOU on a constant basis. You aren't going to win this argument, MIMIC. Sorry.

 

[MIMIC]

They typically will find an exploit before it becomes well-known. It's more often than not the opposite with MS.

Besides, you the user should not care how it's done, just that it IS and is readily avaiable to YOU on a constant basis. You aren't going to win this argument, MIMIC. Sorry.

My argument is that people won't stop trying to break into Firefox. You're saying that that isn't true, which is fundamentally incorrect. That's like saying that people are intimidated by U.S. security and won't ever try to hack into the Pentagon's computer.

That just simply isn't true. People are ALWAYS going to try and find vulnerabilities in EVERYTHING. Firefox isn't an exception.

 

[Pellham]

Popups are virtually gone with Norton Internet Security and SP2 installed. I don't even get ads on say, yahoo.com anymore. :lol I use IE because of compatibility since FireFox can't open every website there is.

 

[Malakhov]

I used to hate tabbed browsing but now I can't live without it but tabbed browsing in IE won't make me go back to it, it needs to be a hella faster than what it is now because Firefox is so fast with some tweaks it isn't even funny.

 

[retardboy]

I honestly, can't see a speed difference between firefox and IE. If anything, I'd say IE is faster. I, however, use firefox as my default because of tabs.

 

[Malakhov]

Diablos: How is mandriva for linux newbs like me? Is it as user friendly as I can run the install from a cd and that's it? I'd like to try and install it with a dual boot.

 

[MIMIC]

Popups are virtually gone with Norton Internet Security and SP2 installed. I don't even get ads on say, yahoo.com anymore. :lol I use IE because of compatibility since FireFox can't open every website there is.

Same here...pop-ups and ads are nonexisntent with Norton Internet Security.