If Black Women Said The Stuff White Men Say

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E92 M3

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Well, I'm not going to tell black people what they can or can't do with that incredibly powerful word that was used to mark their place in society. You can.

I don't tell anyone what they can or can't do. My point was from a societal perspective. Rap and hiphop is quite the popular music genre and the overuse of the n-word is enabling to white people that think it's okay to say. Doesn't mean they're racist.
 

mantidor

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Context is everything, I guess I'm naive like that because I saw that phrase in another context.

Equal to stereotype of "blacks being fantastic lovers" or something to that nature. In my personal experience, I've had non-black girls want to see if it was true as if it was some dare from their sorority during pledge week or some shit.

This is for instance pretty crappy. I wouldn't be offended though but it would be very uncomfortable.

Well when you are telling that to the black girl you are dating as the situation in the video parodies, then it comes across as saying being black is the main factor for the good sex. Otherwise why would you ever share that the best sex you've had was with another person, who just happened to be black too?

Saying it to another woman as a pick line is also pretty tasteless. Pickup lines tend to be tasteless though.

There's quite a few problematic stereotypes about black people and sex.

There's way too much stereotypes about sex in the first place.

What does her skin color have to do with how good the sex is?

OH RIGHT. NOTHING.

But maybe the guy likes black women more? This is no different than people who like certain hair colors.



I honestly saw "best sex I had was with someone black" in the context of friends chatting about their experiencies, in the same line as "best sex was with a short girl" or "best sex I had was in college", more like a description of the person or event rather than attempt to generalize a whole group of people. Of course blurting the phrase out of the blue or to strangers would be weird and uncomfortable.
 

ishibear

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Well excuse me for sharing an amusing experience I had in an apparently super serious thread about a fucking Buzzfeed video

You're excused.

That was never my intent. Look at my post history. I'm no damned racist and I hate racism. My son is mixed, and I grew up in a white (gasp) family that didnt put up with that shit.

I never called you racist... chill out already.

Instead of being so defensive, you should be receptive. You might learn something.
 

Stet

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It makes the "If" not accurate. He's saying black women do say those things to white guys.. so the parody is failing a bit as it's not recognizing reality.

I'm not sure if it's the video that's failing to recognizing reality.
 
Is it really wrong to simply be referencing someone else's use of the word though? Talking about how someone else said nigger doesn't make you racist.

Bragging about how you told someone saying a certain thing wasn't cool is kinda like going up to a woman and saying "One of my friends made a joke about raping dem bitches and I said that wasn't cool because rape is bad" and then expecting to get some sort of credit for it.

It's like "Congratulations! You possess the basic empathy of a normal human being. Do you want a fucking prize?"
 
I don't tell anyone what they can or can't do. My point was from a societal perspective. Rap and hiphop is quite the popular music genre and the overuse of the n-word is enabling to white people that think it's okay to say. Doesn't mean they're racist.
For some of them, yes, it does. They were just waiting for the excuse. Rap shouldn't change because some white people can be ignorant.
 
Well, I'm not going to tell black people what they can or can't do with that incredibly powerful word that was used to mark their place in society. You can.

This is what I wish white people I've argued with would understand. I don't know why on like 4 occasions some of my white associates have started an argument on why black people shouldn't say "nigga" as if their opinion even matters. Let us decide whether or not we should say the word. I don't understand why they feel so strongly about it anyway.
 

Enzom21

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Black and white people shouldn't use the n-word. Otherwise it sends false messages.

No, black people can decide whether or not they want to use the word. If black people don't want other black people using then they are free tell them not to. No one else can.

I don't tell anyone what they can or can't do. My point was from a societal perspective. Rap and hiphop is quite the popular music genre and the overuse of the n-word is enabling to white people that think it's okay to say. Doesn't mean they're racist.
No only idiots or the willfully ignorant don't know they shouldn't use it if they're not black. I have also found that people(particularly white people) who listen to hip hop and say "nigga", are usually the first people to call a black person a "nigger" if that black person does something they don't like.
 
Yes. Every single comment in that video has been made to both of my sisters throughout their entire lives. And the instant new people I meet start to feel comfortable around me, comments like these start to trickle out.

"So I've always wondered......"

"So, can I ask....."

"So, don't be offended, but....."

Multiple white girls I've dated have said exact quotes from that video:

"So, do you think black girls would be mad at you for dating me?"

"Usually when I date black guys, they're not REAL black guys, they're clean, like not ghetto black, you know?"

And in my experience, and the experiences of people I know/family, it is by and large a white thing to ask these questions. Other races just don't seem to give a fuck.

"I don't think id ever date black guys but if I ever did, it'd have to be someone not ghetto. Unlike most black guys out there!"
 
There is a thread about the subtle racism that black people still face. In this case, black women that get told all sorts of vaguely racist stuff - "blah blah jungle fever blah blah."

So, when someone comes in this thread and goes, "oh but let me tell you the time a black person did this to me," especially looking at the OP's post - (two minorities face this, wait let's think about it) - then yes. It's really odd. Video is from buzzfeed- so what? Does that suddenly mean racism is not a problem?

& pulling the whole "but I have a mixed baby" is even more confusing. First of all, the "I have a black friend and even black girlfriends" reminds me a lot of the "I can say 'nigga' because I have a black friend" card. Even if that isn't your intention, surely of all people, since you hate racism, you may be able to understand why going "black people do this too" can sound an awful like trying to justify that it's okay to do this. EVEN IF, to you, it's just an "amusing story," - yeah it's amusing, sorry you got sexually harassed btw, but putting it in this thread just sounds a lot like saying #notallX.

I get you may have reacted defensively because you didn't mean to come off as racist, but surely you understand the whole #notall-whatever- hashtag and its intent, right?

Argh. Quit attributing things to me. I never said I didnt understand these strange hashtag movements. Hell, I never even said anything about it at all. I understand what you and others are saying.

Half the time I resist the urge to come into these threads, but my line of thinking was that someone shared a humorous story, I'll share mine. Admittedly, I got defensive. I should've stuck to my rule of staying out of these threads. I do much better face to face than over the internet.

Understand, like most adults, if I have something on my mind, I will come out and say it.

Edit: Apologies for the derail. Back to regularly scheduled programming.
 

Opiate

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Yes. Every single comment in that video has been made to both of my sisters throughout their entire lives. And the instant new people I meet start to feel comfortable around me, comments like these start to trickle out.

"So I've always wondered......"

"So, can I ask....."

"So, don't be offended, but....."

Multiple white girls I've dated have said exact quotes from that video:

"So, do you think black girls would be mad at you for dating me?"

"Usually when I date black guys, they're not REAL black guys, they're clean, like not ghetto black, you know?"

And in my experience, and the experiences of people I know/family, it is by and large a white thing to ask these questions. Other races just don't seem to give a fuck.

So why do you feel it is white people who care, and not other people? Honest question.
 

Enzom21

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This is what I wish white people I've argued with would understand. I don't know why on like 4 occasions some of my white associates have started an argument on why black people shouldn't say "nigga" as if their opinion even matters. Let us decide whether or not we should say the word. I don't understand why they feel so strongly about it anyway.

White privilege is the reason, conditional use is unfair or some shit like that. I find those who complain about it the most are racists who want to be able to call black people niggers free of consequence.
 

ishibear

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There's way too much stereotypes about sex in the first place.

There's too many stereotypes about sex for whom tho? I'll tell you who: women and minorities.

Blacks are supposed to be "animals" in bed. Stereotype by the same people who enslaved and treated us like "animals".

Asians are supposed to be submissive, and let's not even get into the horrible insults against Asian men and their penises.

And there's plenty sexual fetishes for women (of all races).

Do you know why? Because we are a hivemind, and these stereotypes are to dehumanize us and hold us to the same value as objects.



But maybe the guy likes black women more? This is no different than people who like certain hair colors.

I honestly saw "best sex I had was with someone black" in the context of friends chatting about their experiencies, in the same line as "best sex was with a short girl" or "best sex I had was in college", more like a description of the person or event rather than attempt to generalize a whole group of people. Of course blurting the phrase out of the blue or to strangers would be weird and uncomfortable.

A hair color is a characteristic not solidified to one specific race/ethnicity.

And feeling the need to attribute sexual satisfaction to someone's race is awful. What was that person's name? You could say it was with someone from college and that would be a world different from singling out their race.
 
A black girl once tried to chat me up in a club. She said “you’re cute, do you come in black?”
I said no.
She said “do you want to?”

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Unbounded

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There's too many stereotypes about sex for whom tho? I'll tell you who: women and minorities.

Blacks are supposed to be "animals" in bed. Stereotype by the same people who enslaved and treated us like "animals".

Asians are supposed to be submissive, and let's not even get into the horrible insults against Asian men and their penises.

And there's plenty sexual fetishes for women (of all races).

Do you know why? Because we are a hivemind, and these stereotypes are to dehumanize us and hold us to the same value as objects.
I've heard stereotypes about white people being boring in bed, so there's that.

A hair color is a characteristic not solidified to one specific race/ethnicity.

Uh, I'm black and I'm pretty sure my hair only comes in a few very limited colors and types.

Unless you're talking about hair modification, anyway.

And feeling the need to attribute sexual satisfaction to someone's race is awful. What was that person's name? You could say it was with someone from college and that would be a world different from singling out their race.

People get off to who/what they get off to. No need to shame them for that.
 

Foggy

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Lost it at "prairie fever".

Is the whole beautiful bi-racial baby thing a "white people say" instance? I've heard it enough from all different races so I figured it was just a universal thing.
 
I feel there should be an "American" qualifier in front of "White Men". I've never seen or heard of anyone saying that in Canada. I've only experienced this through Hollywood films.
 

Infinite

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Lost it at "prairie fever".

Is the whole beautiful bi-racial baby thing a "white people say" instance? I've heard it enough from all different races so I figured it was just a universal thing.

I've only heard it said in reference to interracial couples that have a black or afro-latin@ person in it. I don't doubt your experiences however.
 

Foggy

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I've only heard it said in reference to interracial couples that have a black or afro-latin@ person in it. I don't doubt your experiences however.

My girlfriend and her family(Korean) always talk about how beautiful White-Asian babies are and past coworkers(black and latino) have mentioned how much they think bi-racial kids are beautiful. Who knows, but I know I'd be extraordinarily creeped out if someone sprung that on me on a first date.
 

Infinite

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My girlfriend and her family(Korean) always talk about how beautiful White-Asian babies are and past coworkers(black and latino) have mentioned how much they think bi-racial kids are beautiful. Who knows, but I know I'd be extraordinarily creeped out if someone sprung that on me on a first date.

Yeah, I would be too.
 

Samara

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Lost it at "prairie fever".

Is the whole beautiful bi-racial baby thing a "white people say" instance? I've heard it enough from all different races so I figured it was just a universal thing.


My bf told me that...and I didn't even answer back. What the hell does this even mean?! As if all biracial babies come lightskinned with curly hair. Or thats whats considered pretty for a black person.


'do black men all have bigger penises?', 'you're all so feisty', 'you dont sound ghetto', 'i love brown skin, its like chocolate, but you're not that dark, you know like blue black'
 
It is a joke the references the phrase "jungle fever."
I got the reference. But I don't associate white people with prairies. I'm from Iowa which had extensive prairies at one time. And of course the prairies here were originally inhabited by Native Americans. So "prairie fever" evokes the notion of lusting after a Native American for me.

But then associating black people with jungles doesn't really make sense either I suppose.
 

Infinite

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I got the reference. But I don't associate white people with prairies. I'm from Iowa which had extensive prairies at one time. And of course the prairies here were originally inhabited by Native Americans. So "prairie fever" evokes the notion of lusting after a Native American for me.

But then associating black people with jungles doesn't really make sense either I suppose.

Right.
 

terrisus

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Re: The "Do you come in black?" line, it reminds me of:

"You look attractive. Do you have Italian in you?"
"No."
"Would you like to?"
 

ishibear

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I've heard stereotypes about white people being boring in bed, so there's that.

This is the first I've ever heard that...



Uh, I'm black and I'm pretty sure my hair only comes in a few very limited colors and types.

Unless you're talking about hair modification, anyway.

Black, brown, red, and blonde. Black people can have each of these hair colors. I'm a natural redhead (well, it looks orange to me lol), and I'm black.


People get off to who/what they get off to. No need to shame them for that.

You shouldn't be proud of someone seeing you as nothing more than a colored person to be conquered for their sexual gratification. You're human, you don't deserve that.
 
I wonder what the world would be like if everyone just answered uncomfortable questions of honest curiosity instead of complaining about them.

It's painfully obvious that Caucasians that speak like this to other ethnicities don't really know anyone of those ethnicities on a personal level to know the answers to these dumb questions. It also ignores that so many non-white people ask the same stuff to other non-whites that aren't the same ethnicity they are.

Building relationships- true lasting ones, will be what tears down these awkward walls and allows everyone to have deeper more honest discussions and both reflect upon themselves and truly change if necessary.

Thank you.
 

Unbounded

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This is the first I've ever heard that...

Really? They even made a quick joke in the last buzzfeed video about this sort of thing. =\

Black, brown, red, and blonde. Black people can have each of these hair colors. I'm a natural redhead (well, it looks orange to me lol), and I'm black.

You mean Dark brown, brown, light brown, and super light brown?

Unless I'm missing something out of the numerous people I've seen throughout my entire life, I've never seen any black person with a hair color that couldn't be classified (within reason) under a shade of brown.

Blonde would absolutely astonish me, since the only times I've ever seen that is in some sort of image where it was purposefully dyed by the person in question.

You shouldn't be proud of someone seeing you as nothing more than a colored person to be conquered for their sexual gratification. You're human, you don't deserve that.

Uh, I'm not saying you should. That's up to the individual. I'm saying there's no reason to shit on people for liking what they like when it comes to sex. Not every sexual experience is some sort of huge deal where you actually care about the person beyond what they look like.
 
Re: The "Do you come in black?" line, it reminds me of:

"You look attractive. Do you have Italian in you?"
"No."
"Would you like to?"

Nah man It'd go like:

"You look cute. Do you like Italian meats?"
*puzzled* "No, why?"
"Would you like to sample the sausage?"
 

Infinite

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I wonder what the world would be like if everyone just answered uncomfortable questions of honest curiosity instead of complaining about them.

If your "honest curiosity" makes another feel uncomfortable and can't be answered with out that person giving you a history lesson on why it's not okay to ask that then maybe you should rethink asking it.

Also can we all stop using Caucasian to mean white? It's a pet peeve of mine and I been considering making a thread about it
 
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