belmarduk
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Have you ever had to sit next to a morbidly obese person on a plane?
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If we can shame COVIDIOTS then we can shame Fatties.
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Have you ever had to sit next to a morbidly obese person on a plane?
Thirty7ven
Banned
There's no need to shame people.
Just don't enable them, that's all. It ain't hard, and if you think this is hard then you yourself need to do some introspection because there are unresolved matters there.
What did you do when that happened to you?
Just don't enable them, that's all. It ain't hard, and if you think this is hard then you yourself need to do some introspection because there are unresolved matters there.
What did you do when that happened to you?
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DunDunDunpachi
Banned
I'm past the shame tactic. I'm either extending a helping hand to enable them to achieve what they cannot on their own, or I'm grinning ear-to-ear and ignoring them.
belmarduk
Member
I felt very violated as they oozed into my personal space. It was a long flight, too.
highrider
Banned
We can only effectively change people around us by the personification of physical fitness in ourselves. Through the daily application of the self discipline it takes to be fit, there is a mental healing that takes place that is much more important than the aesthetic rewards of a better physique. When we have multitudes of these people we begin to create an environment where fitness is something everyone has a reason to be inspired to do. We create assets out of what we’re once liabilities because we inspire each other.
Most people fall victim to their vices in some form at some point in their lives. I’m a believer in tough love. Some people can’t do it without being pushed hard. They can develop the skills and self discipline but everyone needs an outside force with some level of influence to show them the way. For me it was the military, it helped me a lot being around responsible men who wouldn’t put up with any bullshit from me. In basic training they have a platoon when you get to the reception station of guys that weren’t able to pass the minimum physical tests for push ups and running so they were placed on hold and just smoked all day by drill instructors until they lost weight or got strong enough. Most were overweight but some were just skinny guys that never played sports. I genuinely felt bad for them. They could only eat a few things in the mess hall and they had like two minutes getting screamed at while they tried to wolf their food down, only to be made to do push ups right after, half of them would just throw up. It had a 100% success rate though lol.
Most people fall victim to their vices in some form at some point in their lives. I’m a believer in tough love. Some people can’t do it without being pushed hard. They can develop the skills and self discipline but everyone needs an outside force with some level of influence to show them the way. For me it was the military, it helped me a lot being around responsible men who wouldn’t put up with any bullshit from me. In basic training they have a platoon when you get to the reception station of guys that weren’t able to pass the minimum physical tests for push ups and running so they were placed on hold and just smoked all day by drill instructors until they lost weight or got strong enough. Most were overweight but some were just skinny guys that never played sports. I genuinely felt bad for them. They could only eat a few things in the mess hall and they had like two minutes getting screamed at while they tried to wolf their food down, only to be made to do push ups right after, half of them would just throw up. It had a 100% success rate though lol.
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DeepBreath87
Banned
I love all the people in here saying being fat only effects the fat person. That's bullshit, plain and simple. Being fat, and i'm not talking an extra 20lbs, I'm talking +50lbs overweight, effects everyone in your life. You think its fun watching someone who slowing destroying their body and doing nothing about it? You don't think being around someone who is struggling more and more to function because they're carrying around twice the weight they should doesn't have a negative impact on those around them? For a significantly fat person to say that it only effects them is the most entitled shit I can think of.
Being obese is very similar to being a drug addict or alcoholic. They have a problem that is negatively effecting not only their health but the lives of those around them. Instead of being honest about it and doing what it takes, they either wallow in self pity/denial or lash out at those around them. Look, I can have sympathy for somebody who struggles with their weight the same way I have sympathy for a heroin addict. But I have no patience for people that try and play the "being fat only effects me" crap.
Its different than COVID, sure. But its a more pervasive problem and if you add up the years lost to obesity to those lost by COVID, you're going to have a mountain next to a pebble.
Being obese is very similar to being a drug addict or alcoholic. They have a problem that is negatively effecting not only their health but the lives of those around them. Instead of being honest about it and doing what it takes, they either wallow in self pity/denial or lash out at those around them. Look, I can have sympathy for somebody who struggles with their weight the same way I have sympathy for a heroin addict. But I have no patience for people that try and play the "being fat only effects me" crap.
Its different than COVID, sure. But its a more pervasive problem and if you add up the years lost to obesity to those lost by COVID, you're going to have a mountain next to a pebble.
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mickaus
Member
I mostly agree but sometimes when cash is tight and fast food has some deals it is better value to go for the fast food, such as pizza. I do think that with a bit of practice it is easy and cheap to make healthy meals but sadly a lot of people don’t get creative with food and take simpler options instead.
DeepBreath87
Banned
You can eat fast food if you watch your portions. 1 Mcdouble doesn't ruin a diet. But skip the fries and soda. Its not complicated. Sure you won't get all the satisfaction a Big Mac and large fry provides, but not feeling like shit because you're carrying around an extra person everywhere you go is worth it.
Faenrir
Member
nush
Member
No, but there was a rather large somewhat portly Russian guy sitting in the row in front of me. I was sitting next to this terribly arrogant self important Hong Kongese boss and his PA who boarded super late then claimed I was taking up too much space with my bag under the seat in front. He decided to "Accidentally" elbow me as he sat down. I let it pass becuse getting into a fight/argument on a plane about to take off is a super bad idea.
Anyway as this was a long haul flight said large Russian mans seat was broken and would not decline when he wanted to sleep. I so kindly offered to swap seats with him so my asshole Hong Kong boss would be crushed by sweaty Russian lard for the remainder of the flight.
She looks worse and at least he is funny. (Not that she isn't a walking joke.)Come on, don't hate, she's so sexy...
Hmm ok, she does look like Benny Hills...
Fbh
Member
Not exactly the same since obesity isn't contagious by proximity.
I don't really agree with the "shaming fat people" angle, but I do think the whole fat acceptance movement is stupid and dangerous. People who are fat by choice (the vast majority of them) should be treated the same as smokers or heavy drinkers
I don't really agree with the "shaming fat people" angle, but I do think the whole fat acceptance movement is stupid and dangerous. People who are fat by choice (the vast majority of them) should be treated the same as smokers or heavy drinkers
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cryptoadam
Banned
So this is fine.
But someone who is 300LBS loading up their cart with sodas and snacks, knowing that they are more likely to wind up in the hospital and then in the ICU and then dead is not ok.
Ya someone who is fat isn't going to "kill me" by giving me the virus, but they are going to cost me tons of money on taxes, and make my politicians think this virus kills 99% of the people it infects instead of 99.95% surviving it.
Get rid of fatties and we have a way better chance of getting through this virus with herd immunity and getting back to work.
I am pretty sure that one of the reasons the US 45-65 age bracket is getting hit harder than other places is because 40% of the US is obese. Look at Asian countries with their low death counts. Masks and skinny people. Heck Japan with the oldest population in the world, barely any testing or lock downs and their population isn't dropping like flies. And outside of some sick JAV fetish porn you probably have a hard time finding a fatty in Japan. China/SK/Singapore/HK/Taiwan, lack of fatties.
And FYI Obesity kills 2.8 million people a year. Thats going to be a lot more than CV.
Flying Toaster
Member
I believe there are categories of fat people. Those with health problems, those with depression, those that don't care.
The third bracket are usually out there proud killing themselves and wishing the rest of the world accepted their bad decisions. Ones with health issues such as physical or mental from my experience either try and fail and continue down that path or cannot for some severe reason attempt to get better without starvation and a ton of medications. I won't ever shame a person like that but if they ask for help and are trying then bounce back to old ways I still would try to help if they ask. Being aware of an issue shows acknowledgment of wanting to fix it. A lot of our health issues in the world stem from bad diet, lack of activity and then that leads to mental health issues and those feed into more physical health issues. It bothers me that there is a push to not address fat as unhealthy . That does not help anyone especially those that are obese that don't have to be.
There are other issues such as easily available not shitty foods but that is a whole entire other conversation and honestly at the end of the day is not an excuse if one is aware of what is bad and good for them in the long term.
The third bracket are usually out there proud killing themselves and wishing the rest of the world accepted their bad decisions. Ones with health issues such as physical or mental from my experience either try and fail and continue down that path or cannot for some severe reason attempt to get better without starvation and a ton of medications. I won't ever shame a person like that but if they ask for help and are trying then bounce back to old ways I still would try to help if they ask. Being aware of an issue shows acknowledgment of wanting to fix it. A lot of our health issues in the world stem from bad diet, lack of activity and then that leads to mental health issues and those feed into more physical health issues. It bothers me that there is a push to not address fat as unhealthy . That does not help anyone especially those that are obese that don't have to be.
There are other issues such as easily available not shitty foods but that is a whole entire other conversation and honestly at the end of the day is not an excuse if one is aware of what is bad and good for them in the long term.
Richard Packer
Gold Member
Come on, don't hate, she's so sexy...
Hmm ok, she does look like Benny Hills...
Wtf. Her face is too small for her head.
Stouffers
Banned
She ain’t doing too bad. Someone gave her a pearl necklace.
mcjmetroid
Member
A fatidiot