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Iggy Azalea: Why Didn't Eminem get the same backlash from the Grammys?
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interactivemonodrama
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watsky is pretty good though
toastyToast
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grammys being bullshit is something people tend to forget for 2 weeks out of the year. 25 years of aint shit and still going strong
You can't respond to that with "Not today Satan." and post another pile of shit.Not today Satan.
Pinko Marx
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iggy stans are weird.
Angelus Errare
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Separate the artist from their work. Banks is shit but that album is amazing.
Maybe not complete shit but very underwhelming *shrug* def not hip hop aoty 2014
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Critics and User Score agree that the album is good. You're dismissed.
Your hip hop aoty 2014 bombed commercially and didnt even break 80 on MC. FOH
Pinko Marx
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Critics and User Score agree that the album is good. You're dismissed.
You should be smart enough to know that popular opinion isn't much of an argument on the quality of a creative work.
The quality of the album is not made by sales. Most of the good shit is not mainstream but what would you know about that?
But where are the lies here?
andthebeatgoeson
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It's just the culture. Iggy can't help herself. I'm sure if she did country or pop, she wouldn't be this racist.
Off the top of my head, RTJ2 and Pinata are better. Sit your five dollar ass down. The album is outclassed commercially and critically by other albums in 2014 so it doesnt deserve hip hop aoty 2014. If you think I'm mainstream fixated you've clearly never seen me post about music.The quality of the album is not made by sales. Most of the good shit is not mainstream but what would you know about that?
Have I said anything negative about those albums tho? Take some chai tea and calm down.
Henry Kelly and TV:AM. Not really something I expected to turn up on GAF!
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I said this in the grammys thread. Eminem actively puts homophobic and misogynistic language in his songs and says he's allowed because that's his ~thing~ but noooo as long as Iffy doesn't win the tumblr tweens are happy.
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His albums and songs still sell a lot and continue to win awards without significant backlash. The GP definitely doesn't harbor as much hate for him as they do for Oggy.
theignoramus
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I fucks with "If Youre Reading This Its Too Late". And the dude's talent with the hook game cant even be overstated, some of his singles stand out as legitimately good pieces of music. So what if he doesnt come with complex bars and intricate rhyme patterns. I dont need that from every MC in the game. And frankly, I like that the guy doesnt come across as a self righteous ass in his music, unlike say some of his industry peers.
Junior Mint
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Iggy fans strike me as the type who also believe that Macklemore is the only rapper with something to say.
Autotune, man. It needs to die. Every one of his songs sounds the same because of his nasal voice. Some of the beats are really good, but then he starts rapping and I have to turn it off.
Well said.
Wtf does that have to do with this thread?
Most of the shit she's tweeted would be classified as racist/homophobic in Australia too.
DonasaurusRex
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She has always been a joke but now shes just a sad joke. What is really really sad however is how few people actually take the time to acknowledge how sad of a joke she is, she can't be serious.
Hero Prinny
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Ooh shit I don't keep up with Grammy's or none of that shit but I would've never guess she was nominated for best rap album. If someone would've told me that yesterday I would've laughed and said "good one". She's a doodoo rapper, she has some nice songs I guess but nothing I'd put on my iPod or anything
That is why I stan for the Migos
Yeah, he earned his way up like the rest.
bengraven
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I personally don't like her music, but I have to admit that yes, if she's really as good as people think she is, she deserves her nod.
I also am not a fan of her personality, but that should have nothing to do with her music AND Eminem himself has a shitty personality, a rapper I do in fact like quite a bit.
That's pretty much exactly it. It's "acceptable" for Minaj to do her thing because "ain't that little black girl cute?" But we don't want our precious white daughters doing that!
I also am not a fan of her personality, but that should have nothing to do with her music AND Eminem himself has a shitty personality, a rapper I do in fact like quite a bit.
That's pretty much exactly it. It's "acceptable" for Minaj to do her thing because "ain't that little black girl cute?" But we don't want our precious white daughters doing that!
Em got backlash. Twitter/social media just wasn't a thing back when he was coming up. You'd better believe certain people resented a white rapper winning an award over well-respected black artists, they just didn't have the open channel to express it back then. People hated on Macklemore when he took the win over Kendrick, like it was his fault he won or something.
Some of the criticism Iggy gets is valid. Everything about her is manufactured, forced. She's really boring live. She's not very bright to compare herself to Em. But she certainly gets way too much hate for being a white female.
Some of the criticism Iggy gets is valid. Everything about her is manufactured, forced. She's really boring live. She's not very bright to compare herself to Em. But she certainly gets way too much hate for being a white female.
theignoramus
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She's not a fucking victim, her gimmick got her money and fame she wouldnt have had doing electro pop. "Way too much hate"? From a vocal, small minority? She got nominated for a grammy and her shit got a ton of radio play. She hasnt been attacked by the mainstream press. She hasnt been fucked over financially. She's reaped the rewards of being a white female rapper.
While is true that being a white female rapper amplifies the hate she gets you can't deny that at the end of the day people hate her because even with all of the above she expects the respect of her peers because she is a white female and not because her talent.
theignoramus
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Yeah, theyre people who dont fuck with hip hop outside of a random Eminem album or a couple radio singles. Yet they feel qualified to weigh in on the state of the genre.
I don't think she's a victim, either. And yeah, there's only so much sympathizing you can do with a person who's still taking home millions upon millions of dollars for what she does.
But I think it's pretty obvious at this point that a lot of the hate she gets is amplified because she's a woman. I mean, when Pitbull and Flo-rida were polluting the airwaves with that rancid Dance Pop shit they tried to call Hip-Hop, the worst they got was people trashing them for their shitty songs and, in Pitbull's case, selling out. But nobody accused them of literally killing Hip-Hop like what Iggy gets. And really, I'd say that she's no worse (or any more "manufactured") than those two.
And let's not pretend that Hip-Hop and the Hip-Hop community doesn't have a general problem accepting female MCs. Even the good ones.
n00bsauce87
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We did question why Eminem won the award, but not for those reasons. It was unanimous that it was a bad album. But for him it's not culture appropriation. He's lived it. Unless everything we've seen about his life is a lie. He's opened up about his life in his songs, about his girlfriend, his daughter, and his spats with his mom and even the legal system back in his early days. All of that went in on the wax. He's an open book.
Iggy has done none of that. That could be a marketing decision that radio hits should be the name of the game with the debut album. I can't blame her because she had songs go no. 1 on the billboards. Her singles have probably been downloaded over a million times. Great job. But the persona you put out when you are not behind the mic is very snobbish and holier than thou. At times, fake and others full of faux outrage. Most of all, you think you are better than the culture you are currently in.
Iggy Azalea Slams Q-Tip's Hip Hop History Lesson: Twitter Rants About Azealia Banks Interview Backlash
She just doesn't have any respect for the culture, that's why people don't respect her
I haven't heard any female UK (grime) rappers being called out from disrespect. The one that sticks out is Lady Sovereign when she was active. There was no buzz about disrespect nor culture appropriating hip hop
Iggy has done none of that. That could be a marketing decision that radio hits should be the name of the game with the debut album. I can't blame her because she had songs go no. 1 on the billboards. Her singles have probably been downloaded over a million times. Great job. But the persona you put out when you are not behind the mic is very snobbish and holier than thou. At times, fake and others full of faux outrage. Most of all, you think you are better than the culture you are currently in.
Iggy Azalea Slams Q-Tip's Hip Hop History Lesson: Twitter Rants About Azealia Banks Interview Backlash
She just doesn't have any respect for the culture, that's why people don't respect her
I haven't heard any female UK (grime) rappers being called out from disrespect. The one that sticks out is Lady Sovereign when she was active. There was no buzz about disrespect nor culture appropriating hip hop
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Em got alot of she for being white and on top of HipHop for a while, but the fact that he's actually a great at what he does negates most of the bullshit crits, and he's mostly respected in the HH community.
But Iggy's work just haven't been that good, yes its tough for women to get love in HH at all levels, and Im positive alot of the hate she gets are sex n race based but musically, her work's been mostly trash and the fact that the mainstream powers that be are trying to "legitimize" her made the backlash even worst.
But Iggy's work just haven't been that good, yes its tough for women to get love in HH at all levels, and Im positive alot of the hate she gets are sex n race based but musically, her work's been mostly trash and the fact that the mainstream powers that be are trying to "legitimize" her made the backlash even worst.
WHAT?! She went after Q-Tip for educating her?
I love hip hop and I still learned new things from his history lesson. I appreciated a little bit more context around the genre.
Ridiculous. She has contempt for the entire culture and yet still makes bank on it. Despicable.
Kenshin001
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Actually for him it is cultural appropriation since he has never been black. He is a culture appropriating, misogynist, homophobic white man. Whether he is good or not does not change that fact.
Compared to other female rap artists in 2014 her output pretty much shits on the others.
I think the point n00bsauce was making is that he grew up in a majority black neighborhood. How can he appropriate a culture if he has truly lived it? Is skin color really that large of a qualifier?
Prime crotch
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Em was about that life, and he has proven his worth. His newest albums though, they iffy at best.
n00bsauce87
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I offered a reason why it's not cultural appropriating. He maybe be misogynist and homophobic (like a lot of rappers today unfortunately) but being cultural appropriating doesn't necessarily stop at skin pigmentation; contrary to popular belief but it's true.
I'd argue Riff Raff would be more of an example of that. You have MGK, Yelawolf, Asher Roth, Lady Sovereign, Macklemore (I think he's corny, but he has done a lot of work and is a legitimate rapper that the hip hop community doesn't deny) and Beastie Boys (GOAT group). Yes you can be white and a rapper and a good to great rapper. Just saying because one is white, therefore cultural appropriation is a cop out reason. There's no explanation behind it.
The best example of cultural appropriation I could probably use is Keith Urban, an Australian who is doing american country like a pro. But as it turns out, he's been doing country music in Australia back in the 80s and continued to do so when he moved to Tennessee in the 90s. That has been his life. So it's not really cultural appropriation.
EDIT: Iggy Azalea - Runaway Slave Master (Video) It's nitpicking, but either her or her ghostwriter is aware of the politics surrounding her when that wrote that line.
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