Sonic the Hedgehog 2 not being there is crazy. The hype that game brought worldwide says they really didn't take any of their own criteria seriously. There was a reason the day of release was called Sonic 2sday.
An argument could be made for Sonic the Hedgehog 1 as it was the game that made the Megadrive/Genesis and thus Sega the success it was back in the day. But Sonic Adventure? Really? What historical impact did that have compared to literally creating the company's mascot and turning him into a world wide cultural phenomena?
Number 5 : Sonic CD
Number 9 : Street of Rage 2
And now we're takking.
No DAYTONA USA, the best selling arcade of all time?
Sonic Adventure over Sonic CD?
Shenmue???
Fucking walking simulator copied by you know who 20yrs later.
Sonic Adventure shouldn't get a sniff in a Sega top ten!
Not played Shenmue so cannot comment there but Miku???? MIKU!?!? She isn't even a legit SEGA IP but a license!!
Surprised to see Sonic Adventure on there.
it seems that this list is based off Japanese taste, they most likely like Adventure over any of the classic games, and they seem to love Shenmue and Hatsune Miku, with the latter being a cultural icon in Japan, hence they put those games and didn't put the games that appealed more to westerners like Streets of Rage or Classic Sonic, as those probably didn't do well in Japan. with the possible exception of Phantasy Star.Shenmue is fucking trash-tier. Sonic Adventure over Sonic 2? Project Diva garbage over like... Space Channel 5? No Phantasy Star of any sort?!!
Sonic Adventure is the very first real 3D Sonic game, the one that introduced RPG-esque hub worlds, a bigger emphasis on story, a more realistic world with humans, multiple characters with multiple gameplay styles, and the incredibly indepth Tamagotchi-esque pet simulator, the Chao GardenSonic 2 is better. I don't even know what Sonic Adventure is. I stopped playing after Sonic & Knuckles because it seemed like they were trying too hard to make Sonic cool.
Probably needs Ecco the Dolphin on that list.
I realise I'm slightly LTTP with this as this was published a few weeks ago now but couldn't see any threads on it and was interested to get NeoGAF's thoughts. IGN Japan's top 10 Sega games of all time:
Notes on the selection:
- Shenmue
- Yakuza 0
- Virtua Fighter 4
- Nights into Dreams
- Sonic Adventure
- Valkyria Chronicles
- Jet Set Radio
- Sakura Wars 4
- Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA
- Out Run
- Eligibility: any game ever developed or published by SEGA, regardless of platform.
- Factors considered included historical impact, innovation and quality.
- In the case of a game series, only one title from the series could be selected.
- Titles by Atlus, a subsidiary of SEGA, were excluded.
I can say that Sonic 2 was the reason I begged my Mom for a Genesis for Christmas back in the day. Saw it running on a kiosk in a store and was blown away by what I was seeing.if you go by Quality and Cultural impact, Sonic 2 IS BY FAR the highest on the list for Sega. that game literally launched the MegaDrive into orbit, you could debate Sonic 1 did, but I think Sonic 2 was by far the most popular one and solidified it as an IP
BS list, this is one of the worst game ever made!1. Shenmue
I can say that Sonic 2 was the reason I begged my Mom for a Genesis for Christmas back in the day. Saw it running on a kiosk in a store and was blown away by what I was seeing.
idk, i like SA1 unironically, the game is way better than most people give it credit to, and was well regarded at it's time, hell it's still well regarded in Japan it seems, although i woudn't call it a top 10 best sega games, i still think it's up there. although Sonic 3 & Knuckles deserved the spot more than any other Sonic game.FUUUCK no! Sonic Adventure is pure trash. it can be enjoyed the way The Room can be enjoyed, as a sarcastic "look how fuckign shit this is lol" way. Its absolute lack of any quality outweighs its cultural impact imo
Hastune Miku? what?... no!
if you go by Quality and Cultural impact, Sonic 2 IS BY FAR the highest on the list for Sega. that game literally launched the MegaDrive into orbit, you could debate Sonic 1 did, but I think Sonic 2 was by far the most popular one and solidified it as an IP
Shenmue is the exact opposite of a walking simulator. Or if it is, then all games where the character has his feet touching the ground is a walking simulator.Shenmue???
Fucking walking simulator copied by you know who 20yrs later.
Both lists are pretty agreeable with .I realise I'm slightly LTTP with this as this was published a few weeks ago now but couldn't see any threads on it and was interested to get NeoGAF's thoughts. IGN Japan's top 10 Sega games of all time:
Notes on the selection:
- Shenmue
- Yakuza 0
- Virtua Fighter 4
- Nights into Dreams
- Sonic Adventure
- Valkyria Chronicles
- Jet Set Radio
- Sakura Wars 4
- Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA
- Out Run
- Eligibility: any game ever developed or published by SEGA, regardless of platform.
- Factors considered included historical impact, innovation and quality.
- In the case of a game series, only one title from the series could be selected.
- Titles by Atlus, a subsidiary of SEGA, were excluded.
No.1 is going to be the most controversial I feel since Shenmue is so divisive. I personally think the first two games are both masterpieces but 1 is much more of a flawed masterpiece. 2 is the real pinnacle of the series. It's unfortunate that so few people have played Shenmue 2 and most people think exclusively of the first game or the third game when they think of the franchise. Sonic Adventure ahead of all the Mega Drive Sonics and Sonic Mania is a bit of weird choice for their Sonic game as well. I'm personally not a fan of either of the Sonic Adventure games even though I completed both of them as a kid several times but I think the second one is the better of the two.
A bit dissapointed not to see any Panzer Dragoon games in the list either as there are 3 games in that series- Zwei, Saga and Orta- that can all lay a reasonable claim to being amongst the best games of all time in their respective genres (rail shooters and JRPGs respectively). Then again I suppose it is a fairly niche series so it's not unexpected. The lack of Streets of Rage, Shinobi or Golden Axe will probably come as a bigger surprise to Western readers given how huge those games were over here and how much Sega has been hammering their legacy with all those Genesis compilation re-releases.
Overall, I feel that they seem to have weighted historical impact and innovation more heavily than quality. There's a lot of games here which are the first in their respective series but were superseded by superior sequels (Shenmue, Sonic Adventure, Jet Set Radio, Outrun). My own list is much more geared towards raw quality. Do you have a personal top 10? Here's mine (limiting myself to Sega developed games only):
1) Panzer Dragoon Saga
2) Shenmue II
3) Yakuza 0
4) Jet Set Radio Future
5) Panzer Dragoon Orta
6) Sonic 3 & Knuckles
7) Outrun 2/2006/Coast to Coast
8) Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution
9) Nights into Dreams
10) Streets of Rage 2