IGN/NXGamer: Nintendo Switch N64 Emulator: Is it Really That Bad? - Performance Review
TheGodfather07
Member
Yes it is considering the price Nintendo are charging for it. If they threw it in at no extra cost, it wouldn't be as much of a big deal but they want to over charge for that shit?
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Their YouTube video announcement was like a 1:10 ratio of likes to dislikes. Their user base is fucked, as people will still buy and subscribe, cause it's the only place you can get the games.... Make a PC release, and there would be a big end to that bs.
SlimeGooGoo
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nkarafo
Member
That's a load of bull.
The Switch is more than capable to emulate the console in HLE. The original Wii is, what, 5 times less powerful? Yet the same games on Wii VC had less issues and input lag. I could emulate most N64 games with less issues 15 years ago, on a Pentium 4 + Geforce 4 Ti, using PJ64 and the old Glide64 plugin (not even GlideN64).
It's not like they try to emulate the most demanding or too complex to figure out N64 games... Something like Rogue Squadron, Battle for Naboo, Indiana Jones, Perfect Dark and Conker require more grunt from the host system, even in HLE mode. But those games aren't in the service. Or in any other service before that. But things like Mario 64 and Zelda should be easy enough to emulate on the Switch.
I mean, even all the above aside, i'm pretty sure N64 emulation is much better on the very same Switch hardware, using RetroArch and Mupen64plus-next...
In conclusion, it's not the hardware at fault here, it's just good old incompetence.
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mcjmetroid
Member
Without watching the video... Yes... Yes it is. It should be able to run the games better than the original hardware no excuses.
NXGamer
Member
I just have too much on at moment to even look at it and never got review code. Maybe a later catch-up on, I did see a thread with my name in it, so guessed something had gone wrong somewhere ;-)
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I think your forgetting that the Switch uses mobile artitecture, how are the N64 emulators for mid range mobiles doing these days? That's what you need to be looking at.
People tend to put alot of weight on clock speeds, without looking at anything below that surface level. There's a reason desktops still use lower speed desktop CPU's and not mobile processors, even when the mobile processor have higher clock speeds.
However this problem will be largely down to Nintendo being lazy and not developing an emulator that works around those limitations.
Physiognomonics
Member
Nice video but I think at the end you should have talked about the much better 3DS and gamecube versions.
The real problem is that Nintendo just chose the easiest way (cheaper) way to emulate those games on Switch. I mean, they are selling 17fps and 20fps (with downgraded fog) Zelda in 2021 when they previously sold Zelda 64 on weaker gamecube (perfect emulation) and 3DS (much weaker hardware with improved QoL) at 30fps?
Those Switch games are a scam. But after their awful Mario compilation, it was expected.
The real problem is that Nintendo just chose the easiest way (cheaper) way to emulate those games on Switch. I mean, they are selling 17fps and 20fps (with downgraded fog) Zelda in 2021 when they previously sold Zelda 64 on weaker gamecube (perfect emulation) and 3DS (much weaker hardware with improved QoL) at 30fps?
Those Switch games are a scam. But after their awful Mario compilation, it was expected.
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nkarafo
Member
Keep in mind, Retroarch and mupen64 exist for the Switch and it's better than Nintendo's own offering on the same system.
Georges Chiellins
Member
Is the tegra less powerful than whatever was in the wii?
The MVG video on this issue (second one) is much better than whatever nonsense IGN put together.
The MVG video on this issue (second one) is much better than whatever nonsense IGN put together.
SidViscous
Member
it's a very early emulator, the bizzare choice of games and omissions are an indicator of low compatibility.
I wonder if there was an N64 mini being considered originally which might explain why this emulator seems really bare bones
I wonder if there was an N64 mini being considered originally which might explain why this emulator seems really bare bones
The 3DS game was a port. Not emulated.
nkarafo
Member
The Tegra should be even more powerful than a XBOX 360.
Which means several times more powerful than the Wii and more than powerful enough to emulate a N64. Especially in HLE mode, it should be able to handle the latest Mupen and GlideN64 code with ease.
There's no way around it. Nintendo is just using crappy software for this.
Apologizes for the company that made the hardware for their shitty emulation... can't take this guy seriously anymore on Nintendo stuff, only judges 2 games out of the 9 games available.
As other's have said, Nintendo has full access to all the information an emulation creator could ever need/want. To make shitty emulation in 2021 is pathetic, especially at this cost.
As other's have said, Nintendo has full access to all the information an emulation creator could ever need/want. To make shitty emulation in 2021 is pathetic, especially at this cost.
chaseroni
Member
I am playing the same games with better performance on a hacked switch with no system level tweaks.
LazyParrot
Member
There is absolutely no way a Switch is too slow to properly emulate N64 games.
Jesus well that really makes the NXGamer guy one of the worst Nintendo Apologists.
I am playing the same games with better performance on a hacked switch with no system level tweaks.
It even makes his cherry picking of the games more suspect.
NXGamer played himself and soiled his reputation.
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I am sorry but WHAT?
If PSP, a 2004 hardware can emulate PS1 almost perfectly in the year of 2007, then how in the hell a 2017 released Switch can't perfectly emulate N64 in the year of 2021?
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chaseroni
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Even more dumb considering the Wii has better N64 emulation. Big oof on the reporting hereI am sorry but WHAT?
If PSP, a 2004 hardware can emulate PS1 almost perfectly in the year of 2007, then how in the hell a 2017 released Switch can't perfectly emulate N64 in the year of 2021?
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TheDuskwalker
Member
Not to mention Mario 64 already had a emulation on Switch, on I think the same emulator, that performed a bit better.
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