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AtomicShroom
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SuperPac said:
I've seen games that ran at 15fps a month away from Gold, and turned out a smooth 30fps. So gaining 5 fps is nothing.
m0dus said:Alot of negatvity/LOLAMIRITE-ing in this thread. . . . funny, where were all these concerned critics when the NBA 2K6 shots got posted? caught in traffic? :lol
negative spin of ANY kind at teh Gaf really can bring out the trolls
i dunno about the rest of the trolls, but i was in there saying the game looked good.
this however, is sweet sweet vindication.
m0dus said:Alot of negatvity/LOLAMIRITE-ing in this thread. . . . funny, where were all these concerned critics when the NBA 2K6 shots got posted? caught in traffic? :lol
negative spin of ANY kind at teh Gaf really can bring out the trolls
Rare + Perfect Dark Zero + Bad Impressions + no more beta kits = recipe for disaster :lol
m0dus said:Alot of negatvity/LOLAMIRITE-ing in this thread. . . . funny, where were all these concerned critics when the NBA 2K6 shots got posted? caught in traffic? :lol
negative spin of ANY kind at teh Gaf really can bring out the trolls
I honestly hadn't even bothered to look for NBA 2K6 shots until just now. I don't care about that crap.
Rare, however, is always good for a laugh.
Bullshit. You should know by now that the way you write code for the CPU cores greatly affects the speed of the game. If you don't perfectly optimize the code for the 3 cores it can slow a game down to a crawl. I don't think it's a case that PDZ is so graphically intensive that the Xbox 360 can't handle it. I think it's a matter of getting the code right. If they were complaining about the framerate and saying it was sluggish in 32-player multiplayer then I might believe that the engine was taxing the system, but they're saying the framerate is 25fps in single player.quetz67 said:
I must say that this is a bit of deja vu though. The original Perfect Dark was notorious for it's poor framerate. In that case though I think the game was simply throwing more at the N64 than it could handle.
NBA2k6 looks fantastic, Gears of War looks fantastic, Project Gotham Racing 3 look fantastic. There's plenty of 360 games that look truly next-gen and look to offer some quality gameplay. So no one should feel the need to counteract every negative thing said about a game that legitimately has problems.
PDZ is one crazy ride, though. Looks good one moment, looks terrible another, sounds like a dream to play then, buzzin' downward. I don't know which way to look at the moment!
PDZ is one crazy ride, though. Looks good one moment, looks terrible another, sounds like a dream to play then, buzzin' downward. I don't know which way to look at the moment!
No he doesn't.IJoel said:
IGN said:
Wall Guy represented bad graphics. If the graphics have much improved then why would you say that "Wall Guy Lives?"
Amir0x said:
I disagree. I don't think it's been a crazy ride. The graphics and framerate started out horrible on the alpha kits, now on the final hardware the graphics have improved drastically but the framerate is still a problem. That's not crazy at all, that's what happens to a lot of games.
Dr_Cogent said:
as far as first (2nd) person shooters go, i agree. gr3 looks awesome, especially in motion with its purdy grain filters, animation, lighting and HOT explosions.
i just think people enjoy bashing rare games.
OMG the first site with hands on says it may not be AAA! end of the world, game looks like utter shit, el-oh-el, etc
It is almost boring how some guys fall for stupid jokes.---- said:
But seriously, downgrading graphics is a common way to improve framerates. Sure there are other way to get a better framerate, especially when the game obviously doesnt use much of the machines power. But have you ever thought about the fact that messing with mult-core code weeks before release may introduce some really, really nasty bugs?
Dr_Cogent said:
heh, no i agree completely. with the amount of time both pd0 and kameo have had, they should be very complete and full games.
but they are launch titles for a rushed (as in, devs havent had final kits for long) next-gen console. both titles look good to great. certainly better then a lot of other launch titles.
First of all I don't think they need to downgrade PDZ's graphics to get it running smoothly at 30fps. Second of all I don't know that this game is weeks away from release. Nobody has ever guaranteed that it was going to be a launch game.quetz67 said:
In fact people have been saying for weeks now that it is probably not going to make launch. I'm sure once this is confirmed the trolls will act like the sky is falling and say there are no good games at the Xbox 360 launch. :lol
All I know is I'd be a lot more worried about this game if they were saying that the graphics were still bad. Right now PDZ is in the same position that PGR3 is in. Good graphics, bad framerate. And the solution isn't that they have to downgrade the graphics. Anyone who thinks that any of these launch games are pushing the Xbox 360 hardware is just being stupid.
This is a bit disapointing. the recent video leaks impressed me. I love the art style and the lighting, plus the game just looks fun. Hopefully they won't hesitate to delay if they need to, because it sounds like this has a lot of potential. In the leaked video, i couldn't see any problems with the framerate. It actually looked very smooth so this is surprising news. I guess the low quality of the video was hiding something?
sableholic
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appears nobody noticed bishops post. sounds like hes going to say pdz is looking good and own some trolls
Looking at the total number of high quality games that are bought for an average system launch, the Xbox 360 at least matches the current generation consoles and perhaps surpasses them.
Do you guys even remember what launched with the Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2?
Xbox was Halo, Amped, and PGR.
Gamecube was friggin' Super Monkey Ball, Luigi's Mansion, and Rogue Leader.
PS2 was what, SSX, Ridge Racer, and Madden?
Tell me that you don't think the 360 loses to any of these launches... I mean, unless of course you consider Halo to be the "If I own this I don't need another game." title, which is dumb IMO.
Do you guys even remember what launched with the Xbox, Gamecube, and PS2?
Xbox was Halo, Amped, and PGR.
Gamecube was friggin' Super Monkey Ball, Luigi's Mansion, and Rogue Leader.
PS2 was what, SSX, Ridge Racer, and Madden?
Tell me that you don't think the 360 loses to any of these launches... I mean, unless of course you consider Halo to be the "If I own this I don't need another game." title, which is dumb IMO.
op_ivy said:
It just seems way too early to tell in a case like this. I mean, it's been all over the map since day one. I refuse to commit my money to a game that could be a total trainwreck. At least with CoD2, I have a good idea of what I'm in for. It seems like the safe fps choice from the launch lineup.
erikevrhrd
Junior Member
Kameo went through the same bs and has turned out amazing and definitely next-gen. Obviously there are different teams involved and the PD0 team = not so good.
Kabuki Waq
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back off sporky prine would never play the spin game.