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IGN: PS3 is much more powerful than Xenon
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robertsan21
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why is IGN saying that its to soon to release a new console?
man one moment they are like" wow cant wait for the next gen" and when they get what they want they go" oh its to soon for next gen, PS2 is doing just fine" fucking idiots!
all i say is bring it on!
i want next gen games now!
man one moment they are like" wow cant wait for the next gen" and when they get what they want they go" oh its to soon for next gen, PS2 is doing just fine" fucking idiots!
all i say is bring it on!
i want next gen games now!
I think it's safe to assume PS3 will be more powerful than Xbox2, but I wouldn't put too much weight into Matt's specific numbers.
There doesn't have to be a "revolutionary" difference in power for there to a tangible or quanitifiable one, at least on paper. Obviously it won't be "revolutionary superior" - there'd need to be a generation gap or more between them for that to be the case.
But yeah, I can't wait till we actually get the specs and can finally come to some definite conclusions (if that's possible...I remember lots of debate for a long time after official specs were released for the systems last time around!).
There doesn't have to be a "revolutionary" difference in power for there to a tangible or quanitifiable one, at least on paper. Obviously it won't be "revolutionary superior" - there'd need to be a generation gap or more between them for that to be the case.
But yeah, I can't wait till we actually get the specs and can finally come to some definite conclusions (if that's possible...I remember lots of debate for a long time after official specs were released for the systems last time around!).
Go Go Ackman! said:
To do pre-emptive damage control on the Xenon.
I mean they did the same thing with the Dreamcast where they went on and on about stuff that never happened and the hype did serious damage to the Dreamcast. I knew SO many people who wanted to buy a Dreamcast but they waited because the "PS2 was going to be better".
Not saying that MS will drop out like Sega but anybody who launches before a Sony console is going to have to deal with this stupid hype shit.
Mrbob said:
Hehe, yeah. For those that missed it, he said Nintendo was a non-factor. I think he thinks that if he goads Nintendo enough, they'll come round to his way of thinking, or something, without realising they don't particularly care for his opinion :lol And they seem, thusfar, to be making more sense with regard to next gen anyway.
I think the general point is that, as long as there are a few strong titles for any system, it's going to be fine. I'm not one to really bash systems, but if you take away the Halo franchise for the Xbox, you're not left with a particularly strong system. The same can be said for any other console. If anything, the Xbox has proven that if you have a few amazing games, you can make nine million variations of kabuki warriors and you're still going to compete in the console wars.
Just make good, sellable games and your system will do fine. It's really simple, actually. DC was ahead of its time, and while that is a good counterpoint, I don't know that it really fits here.
Bah, this is all just semantics and posturing. The point is this: regardless of specs, if devs make good games, the systems will probably sell. I don't think it's a far fetch to assume that the sales will look next gen like they do this gen (sony, ms, nintendo). Especially as most people have a system now (what is it, like 1 in 2 or 3 homes in the US has a console?) and will naturally want to get the next variant if it's backwards compatible. The average consumer won't know jack shit about BluRay or SuperMegaNuclearDVD or anything like that. They'll know the games, and the names.
Plus, lets not kid anyone... I think if Squenix isn't making games involving full real life interactive holograms by Final Fantasy fourteen, then there will be a mass revolt, so the PS3 NEEDS to have better graphics.
Just make good, sellable games and your system will do fine. It's really simple, actually. DC was ahead of its time, and while that is a good counterpoint, I don't know that it really fits here.
Bah, this is all just semantics and posturing. The point is this: regardless of specs, if devs make good games, the systems will probably sell. I don't think it's a far fetch to assume that the sales will look next gen like they do this gen (sony, ms, nintendo). Especially as most people have a system now (what is it, like 1 in 2 or 3 homes in the US has a console?) and will naturally want to get the next variant if it's backwards compatible. The average consumer won't know jack shit about BluRay or SuperMegaNuclearDVD or anything like that. They'll know the games, and the names.
Plus, lets not kid anyone... I think if Squenix isn't making games involving full real life interactive holograms by Final Fantasy fourteen, then there will be a mass revolt, so the PS3 NEEDS to have better graphics.
Actually, that whole article is pointless.
This generation has seen a rise in power by western developers in North America. Looking at the sales of western developed published Xbox/PS2 games they are nearly 50/50 in sales. This was mentioned in the article and really is the only point to be made. With that kind of sales success on Xbox you know western developers will get behind Xbox 360 and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't become the lead platform for all western published games. I think it is more important for Xbox 360 to be released in Europe this year. Xbox 360 will get a boatload of sales in NA but it would be good if Europe sales could get a boost. Japan is a wild card.
This generation has seen a rise in power by western developers in North America. Looking at the sales of western developed published Xbox/PS2 games they are nearly 50/50 in sales. This was mentioned in the article and really is the only point to be made. With that kind of sales success on Xbox you know western developers will get behind Xbox 360 and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't become the lead platform for all western published games. I think it is more important for Xbox 360 to be released in Europe this year. Xbox 360 will get a boatload of sales in NA but it would be good if Europe sales could get a boost. Japan is a wild card.
They aren't that far apart. The only one with a bigger gap is Madden. Having said that, the Xbox version still pushed over one million units sold.
Let me ask you this.
Come fall 2006, which version of Madden 2007 do you think will sell more copies? The PS3 version with its limited userbase or the expanding Xbox 360 version which is in its second year.
Let me ask you this.
Come fall 2006, which version of Madden 2007 do you think will sell more copies? The PS3 version with its limited userbase or the expanding Xbox 360 version which is in its second year.
If a system's capabilities are what makes it successful, then the Neo Geo should've killed the SNES and Genesis. Sega was the market leader with for a few years even with the slighty more powerful SNES on store shelves and it was because the Genesis had lots and lots of good games. It's been said before, but it really is the games that count.
Pimpwerx said:
How is it funny? Everybody gets the joke by now. I think his beef with it is when people post just that and nothing meaningful. The point is to make worthwhile contributions to a discussion. Saying LOL LATEST INTERNET TREND PHRASE and nothing else doesn't qualify. The again, that's just my theory...
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Let me remind yout that being a "lead" plaform hasn't really done much for multiplatform games on PS2. It's not like more often than not those games don't end up being somewhat visually better on Xbox. Except for games that are built around PS2 controller, like SSX series or NBA Street, there's hardy something to be 'proud' of in being a lead platform, now that even EA offers online on XB and PS2. Or either way for that matter. Those games end up looking so simillar, it really makes no difference what's lead and what's not.
They do get to 2:1 ratio or even more.
I'll answer your question with another question. Will Madden sell more on PS3+PS2 or XB2+XB?
Someone needs to list western developed/published sales because the gap is closing and many titles sell nearly 50/50 nowadays. I'm too lazy to do one though. We need someone like SonyCowboy or Jarrod who can take the time to do a list.
Sales for Madden series -this gen- peaked last year. PS2 sales will go down. 2005 was down over 2004 and that is with the drop to 30 bucks early in the game too. The Xbox version is up in sales year over year while the PS2 version is down. When sports gamers see next gen Madden at E3 it is going to make another hit to Madden 2006 PS2/Xbox sales.
I can foresee Xbox 360 transitioning to the platform of choice for sports gamers by releasing early and getting a nice size userbase. Madden on PS3 is not going to oustsell the Xbox 360 version 3 to 1 (3 million for Madden 2005 PS2 versus 1 million for Madden 2005 Xbox). I think sales next year for Madden 2007 will be fairly even between PS3/PS2 and Xbox360/Xbox. The bulk of the Madden 2007 Playstation sales will come from the PS2 version while the bulk of the Madden 2007 Xbox sales come from the Xbox 360 version. I think both the PS2 and Xbox 360 version will be able to eclipse two million in sales, with neither hitting three. While the Xbox version will probably do around 300,000-500,000 and the PS3 version limited by hardware userbase, which means the PS3 version will probably also be around 500,000 or so.
Sales for Madden series -this gen- peaked last year. PS2 sales will go down. 2005 was down over 2004 and that is with the drop to 30 bucks early in the game too. The Xbox version is up in sales year over year while the PS2 version is down. When sports gamers see next gen Madden at E3 it is going to make another hit to Madden 2006 PS2/Xbox sales.
I can foresee Xbox 360 transitioning to the platform of choice for sports gamers by releasing early and getting a nice size userbase. Madden on PS3 is not going to oustsell the Xbox 360 version 3 to 1 (3 million for Madden 2005 PS2 versus 1 million for Madden 2005 Xbox). I think sales next year for Madden 2007 will be fairly even between PS3/PS2 and Xbox360/Xbox. The bulk of the Madden 2007 Playstation sales will come from the PS2 version while the bulk of the Madden 2007 Xbox sales come from the Xbox 360 version. I think both the PS2 and Xbox 360 version will be able to eclipse two million in sales, with neither hitting three. While the Xbox version will probably do around 300,000-500,000 and the PS3 version limited by hardware userbase, which means the PS3 version will probably also be around 500,000 or so.
CrimsonSkies
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Could happen but I don't understand the need for it since the Xbox 2 has been stated by Microsoft to target a Teraflop of power. If they are lying that's another argument. But hey they did state that number.
While I think this is silly and juvenile, serving to fuel even more arguments between fanboys, the PS3 will be more powerful than the Xbox360 -- by a sizable margin.
They're separated by far more than 6 months, no matter the gap in their respective release to market.
Stated this before. Look for the outcome to be unchanged from this gen. In fact, due to Nintendo learning from past mistakes, the gap may diminish some.
They're separated by far more than 6 months, no matter the gap in their respective release to market.
Stated this before. Look for the outcome to be unchanged from this gen. In fact, due to Nintendo learning from past mistakes, the gap may diminish some.
peedi said:
Sales have NEVER been the same from one generation to the next, for any company.
Sony has sold more this generation than they did last generation.
Nintendo has sold less this generation than they sold last generation.
And if logic holds up, Microsoft will sell significantly more next generation than they did during this one.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Wow, you really have some axe to grind. Where were you saying that in the DS threads with Nanostray or NFS:U, where people went on and on how impressive those games look on DS.
Speevy said:
Why should Microsoft sell significantly more? Because the Xbox180 will be first to market? That really helped the Dreamcast.
It's completely ASTOUNDING how oblivious -- or incorrigibly blind -- your ilk is to the lure of the Playstation brand. You keep thinking Microsoft is going to reap 40 million next gen, if that's what tides you over.