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all signs point to a great game.
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sp0rsk said:
a busted, rickety ass sign it maybe, but it's facing in the direction of all the other signs......
Pack of Wild Rats
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Another great review, too bad Famitsu will kill its Gamerankings score.
Scottlarock
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WHY? or sould I agree with gamespot for there dead on what I feel ratings???(NOT!) which they both liked this game? dude a opinion is a freakin opinion even if done by spong or gamepro....sp0rsk said:
tsp_gatmog
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man, if only gt4 was online..
Littleberu
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Speevy said:
Or is it?
Shogmaster
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tsp_gatmog said:
And didn't shimmer like.... like.... GT4.
Scottlarock
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or if it gets a high IGN score it must suck....;.......el jacko said:
midnightguy
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if Forza2 on Xenon` Xbox360 is 60 FPS I will take a look. but not this time.
sonycowboy
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Based on my read, they seem to give the edge to
GT4: Graphics, Physics, Cars, Tracks, Features
Forza: AI, Online, Damage Modeling, Sound, Game Progression
Interestingly, they don't really talk about the control, which for my part, is probably the single most important issue. I honestly didn't expect Forza to be this good until Che started going on and on about it. The various demos weren't great and they've really pulled one out of the hat.
I wonder how it's going to sell. I'd bet > 220k first month as a first blush guess. I'll, of course, revise that as we hear more later in the month
GT4: Graphics, Physics, Cars, Tracks, Features
Forza: AI, Online, Damage Modeling, Sound, Game Progression
Interestingly, they don't really talk about the control, which for my part, is probably the single most important issue. I honestly didn't expect Forza to be this good until Che started going on and on about it. The various demos weren't great and they've really pulled one out of the hat.
I wonder how it's going to sell. I'd bet > 220k first month as a first blush guess. I'll, of course, revise that as we hear more later in the month
Graphics is purely opinion based... for me GT4 is severly lacking in graphics. The textures are just terrible, and the game is jaggy as hell.
Sound is Forza's with ease... GT4 is way off with engine sounds. Tried some of the V8 cars and they had no muscle in their sound.
Physics.... well again, surely Forza's physics are superior. It updates four times as much and feels much more realistic... this again could be a preference thing, but the handling was the thing Forza was getting most preaise for at first... and atleast you can lock on your brakes.
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Tracks and Cars quantity is GT4s obviously. Forza's tracks look nicer though IMO, the scenery and draw distance make it much nicer to look at.
Features both are feature packed. GT4 has photo mode and all the cars/tracks. Forza has online, Custom Soundtracks, Drivatar, Customisations etc.
Sound is Forza's with ease... GT4 is way off with engine sounds. Tried some of the V8 cars and they had no muscle in their sound.
Physics.... well again, surely Forza's physics are superior. It updates four times as much and feels much more realistic... this again could be a preference thing, but the handling was the thing Forza was getting most preaise for at first... and atleast you can lock on your brakes.
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Tracks and Cars quantity is GT4s obviously. Forza's tracks look nicer though IMO, the scenery and draw distance make it much nicer to look at.
Features both are feature packed. GT4 has photo mode and all the cars/tracks. Forza has online, Custom Soundtracks, Drivatar, Customisations etc.
sonycowboy said:
I would agree apart from the cars issue. Ferrari and Porsche are the car makers for me. The controls are pretty good for a controller, but i really need that speedster wheel. The dfp has spoiled me. I dont care for FF, it the control factor i am intrested in so the speedster should be fine. I am getting it for free so i cant lose either way.
I predict less than 100k sales for the first month. Kinda harsh considering how great the game is.
sonycowboy
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MarkRyan said:
Are you writing guides for either of these games?
sonycowboy
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sscrew said:
I think this is the Xfan in you trying to lower the hype and praise it when the sales are great
With Republic Commando & Splinter Cell debuting over 200k, and Fable over 600k, I think there will be a HUGE number of Xbox fans buying this game. And the thing comes out the first week of May, so it has ALL month to sell.
I honestly cant see it doing that well. In the same way the Xbox is a great console and most powerful, feature rich, its been outsold 4x over by PS2. Im sure Forza will do respectable sales, but it wont go close to breaking 2 million, and it wont sell for long. Life span it will probably only total just over 1million. Thats respectable, but the effort and quality of this game would make it a game that should sell 3 or 4 million.sonycowboy said:I think this is the Xfan in you trying to lower the hype and praise it when the sales are great
With Republic Commando & Splinter Cell debuting over 200k, and Fable over 600k, I think there will be a HUGE number of Xbox fans buying this game. And the thing comes out the first week of May, so it has ALL month to sell.
And im not an Xfan, i love my PS2 just as much for reasons such as GTA SA
If its a great game, your only hurting yourself by caring what system its on.AlphaSnake
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Wait...the review pretty much says that the graphics are just above average. Yet, they still give the visuals a 9? WTF?!
sonycowboy
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sscrew said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Sorry, that's the sales whore in me laughing. Only 1 series for the Xbox has ever sold over 2M in the US and that's Halo. Only 4 games have sold over 2M worldwide, Halo, Halo 2, Splinter Cell, & GTA
ouble Pack.So saying that it ~should sell 3-4M isn't realistic for ANY Xbox title not called Halo, no matter what. That being said, I expect it to sell quite well.
Im referring to what a game of this quality should be selling. If it where on PS2 and named Gran Turismo what it would be selling. I said i think this thing will be lucky to break 1 million, with 2 million being a maximum.... and in all honesty, this game is of higher quality than Halo 2 was.sonycowboy said::lol :lol :lol :lol
Sorry, that's the sales whore in me laughing. Only 1 series for the Xbox has ever sold over 2M in the US and that's Halo. Only 4 games have sold over 2M worldwide, Halo, Halo 2, Splinter Cell, & GTA
So saying that it ~should sell 3-4M isn't realistic for ANY Xbox title not called Halo, no matter what. That being said, I expect it to sell quite well.
Its all about a name. Not the quality, not how good it reviews. The name and how its marketed. Thats why i dont think it will sell well. I think it should be selling 3/4 million, it will be lucky to do a quarter of it... its in a similar situation to Fable, only this is better than expected, not worse.
Ryudo, MGS has been pretty reluctant to port their console games to the PC. Even worse, at this point it would be a hard sell being that the XBOX 360 is just right around the corner. I would imagine if they had launched a PC version, say a month or two later than the XBOX version, that it would make a nice advertisement for what we might be looking forward to on the XBOX 360. Another advantage would be expanding 'mindshare'. You get the game out to as many eyeballs as possible and even more so if you're going do a Forza 360. The more familiar people are with the game, especially if it's a game of forza's calibre, the greater the possiblity of sales success for it's sequel. Also, considering most of the work is already done on the game, adding optimisation for video cards and FF wheel support isn't that much more work is it? Unfortunately, MGS will shoot down this proposal rather quickly though. Right after they threaten to shoot me for making this proposal. :lol
No it doesnt have aproblem with it, but Forza's is easily much better... and someone posted a link with a physics comparison and it said Forza calculates its physics at 240fps while GT4 does it at 60fps.Gek54 said:
For me, Forza's strengths far outweight GT4's. Most reviews agree. Not saying GT4 is a bad game, just that Forza is a better game. My reasons for this opinion are right their. Reviews say the same thing. Not necissarily for the same reasons however. Regardless of platform or framerate. The textures go a great length to making it look nicer than GT4 on a HDTV, the sounds are brilliant, the handling is brilliant, The AI is great (a bit dirty at times lol), the online play is their, new features like Drivatar, and suggested line etc. Cars which to me appeal more (i love my ferraris).
Why is that so hard to accept?
If GT4 doesn't have a problem with draw distance then how can Forza be better? GT4 actually does have a teency bit of pop-in on two or three courses. The whole physics calculation rate is pretty retarded to argue about, as it doesn't matter--play the game, judge the way it plays.sscrew said:
Dirty isn't really the right word. It's more retarded, just like GT4 AI. Except Forza AI is less predictable and more dangerous.
Suggested line is definitely a cool feature. More games need to have it for training purposes. Unfortunately, there's no alternative in Forza like GT4's rally-style gear indicators for turns, which feel a lot less like training wheels and still lets you race a course you haven't 100% memorized (i.e. the Nurb).
And I just realized that Forza really doesn't have any production BMW cars (they're all full-on race cars). BMW M3 is my favorite car in GT4
AlphaSnake
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GT4's physics calculations were never confirmed by anyone. Rather, a made up number was just thrown out by some magazine and believed. Polyphony, never once, disclosed an actual calculation point. So the whole 240 vs. 60 debate is pretty stupid.
Just because their is no problem with something, doesnt mean it isnt able to be made betterMarkRyan said:
And i am judging the way it plays, but proof such as i think that it handles better is kinda silly when the exact same can be said for the other game. Or Mario Kart etc. Forza feels better for reasons i mentioned (cars actually lock up, proper use of applying breaks, can go all out and lose traction, or partial break and still make turns etc). IGN had a nice review about it.Also, if you crash into a wall, phsyics say your car damages :lol Forza does, GT4 dont :lol LOL <--- Thats a joke, i dont honestly see it that way. But as far as my opinion goes, Forza handles and reacts like a dream. Feels so much more accurate. Although i did do up an old Stingray which output 1200+ torque and would refuse to drive in a straight line due to never having traction.