Solid Samus
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IGN: Splatoon's lack of voice chat is "cheap and lazy"
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Candescence
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Friend chat would've been nice, but random chat? More trouble than it's worth. I actually enjoyed the testfire more without it, and the game is designed well enough so you don't need it for teamwork.
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PotionBleue
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I still don't understand why the console reserves HALF (1GB of 2GB) its RAM for OS while playing games.
half a moon
Banned
Compare Nintendoland to Mario, Zelda, etc. I'm sorry that their new IP is cheap but it is.
Not saying it can't be fun or isn't a good concept
Candescence
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The PS4 reserves almost half of its RAM for the OS as well, probably the same for the Xbone as well.
Jawbreaker
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You're glad there's less player choice because you don't agree with how people are voicing their opinions? That's a bit much, don't you think?
Until they add in a pre-set message for "go away, I've got this area covered," I will continue to see the game as flawed. That was seriously my biggest problem with the demo.
Voice chat would be an easy solution, but so would pre-set messages relaying tactical information to your team mates.
Voice chat would be an easy solution, but so would pre-set messages relaying tactical information to your team mates.
Nintendo isn't the best at making efficient OS's?
Well 'ol Franny isn't wrong! While Splatoon is still fun without it, voice chat should definitely be in at least as an option.
I also remember last year Nintendo as a whole was saying "we will be making more games that will further utilize the Gamepad"
Well huh...I do believe there is a mic in there, isn't it?
I also remember last year Nintendo as a whole was saying "we will be making more games that will further utilize the Gamepad"
Well huh...I do believe there is a mic in there, isn't it?
There's voice chat in WiFi trading in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, in 2006...
That was my biggest frustration as well. Customizable pre-set messages would be pretty good.
Solid Samus
Banned
It doesn't compare unfavorably and I don't know where you're getting at by claiming that anything in this game beyond its UI font has a free to play look or feel to it. Its polished and colorful with a distinct and attractive art style, its no slouch far as I can tell.
But I mean if you're telling me to compare this to Zelda and find it lacking I'm just gonna laugh it off because I'm not -yet- impressed by the way the new Zelda looks during actual gameplay.
That would actually be a somewhat decent workout around.
This summarizes my feelings to a tee.
I get Nintendo's stance to not allow Voice Chat between randoms, and with Splatoon's launch setup of quick worldwide matches, it's not necessary.
Let's hope in the August update with custom friend matches and teams, they do something about it. I should be able to talk to my consistent team of 4. Maybe the level of outcry will help that cause.
Honestly, would an OS update with party chat even be possible on WiiU? That's be a freakin' godsend.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
As great as the game felt, there were more than a few times where I feel having voice chat mid-match would help teams co-ordinate strategies better. They should give people the option of whether they find it worthwhile or not and go hyper strict with the parental controls if they're worried about kids getting sworn at by strangers, or at least let NNID friends talk.
Dougieflesh
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That nintendo kool-aid sure is strong. Baffling how people are defending not having voice chat in a multiplayer focused console game. Also what kids are nintendo protecting? Kids aren't playing Wii U it's people 25 and over mostly.
Solid Samus
Banned
What was the last modern Zelda game that had players entering their pause menu to switch items exclusively?
30yearsofhurt
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Not surprised to see some people defending this omission.
I'll just say it is non-sensical to exclude non-visual communication in a game that relies on teamwork.
I'll just say it is non-sensical to exclude non-visual communication in a game that relies on teamwork.
It makes me wonder if Nintendo might just cave in to patching voice chat just because enough people complain about it. Anyway, Producer Hisashi Nogami provided a better explanation on why Splatoon doesn't necessarily need voice chat:
"In terms of communication in games in general, there are two main types:communication about strategy and communication about feelings you have while playing at that moment. When that point is applied to this game, one interesting aspect of Splatoon is that the actions you take shooting ink can immediately be seen in the stage you're playing by yourself and other players, and conversely when you see the actions other players are taking shooting ink, it's something you can interpret immediately and then base your next actions on that and judging what that means. That's an important part of the gameplay in Splatoon."
I understand Nintendo's thinking here, and agree with it in terms of strategic omission, but at the same time, not providing voice chat with a mute option would solve this controversy and hurts no one. Nintendo may just have to bite its tongue and do what consumers ask of it even if it doesn't think it is necessary to have. Nintendo's all or nothing approach is going to certainly hurt some of this game's review scores even if it proves in the end that Splatoon can play just fine without the feature.
"In terms of communication in games in general, there are two main types:communication about strategy and communication about feelings you have while playing at that moment. When that point is applied to this game, one interesting aspect of Splatoon is that the actions you take shooting ink can immediately be seen in the stage you're playing by yourself and other players, and conversely when you see the actions other players are taking shooting ink, it's something you can interpret immediately and then base your next actions on that and judging what that means. That's an important part of the gameplay in Splatoon."
I understand Nintendo's thinking here, and agree with it in terms of strategic omission, but at the same time, not providing voice chat with a mute option would solve this controversy and hurts no one. Nintendo may just have to bite its tongue and do what consumers ask of it even if it doesn't think it is necessary to have. Nintendo's all or nothing approach is going to certainly hurt some of this game's review scores even if it proves in the end that Splatoon can play just fine without the feature.
Why wouldn't it be possible?
Oh I see what you meant. The last one would be Skyward Sword, since everything after that had dual screen functionality either on the 3DS or the WiiU.
But pssuing to equip gear is pretty normal in games, even today... so long as they aren't on the 3DS or WiiU, then its abnormal.
Candescence
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"Cheap" does not come to mind when playing Splatoon. You must have very high standards, mate, because Splatoon looks as good if not better than Mario 3D World, which was sublime.
I'm pretty sure the messages can be customized, it's just that you can't do that in the demo. I mean. there's literally four slots on the d-pad for them, and the demo uses just two.
There's no netcode to worry about and they take great pains to make sure you're only trading with a friend.
Given that both Smash and MK8 don't support voice chat in-game (like, not in menus), I'm led to believe that the lack of voice chat is either a weakness of the Wii U or a strange policy of Nintendo.
In any case, I don't really mind. I can see how voice chat could be fun but I've played many multiplayer games without chat before and it's fine. The demo played great to me too. I didn't look at the pre-defined messages but I feel like those could be enough.
In any case, I don't really mind. I can see how voice chat could be fun but I've played many multiplayer games without chat before and it's fine. The demo played great to me too. I didn't look at the pre-defined messages but I feel like those could be enough.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Eh, stuff like 3DWorld and Mario Kart 8 almost definitely has more kids than adults playing it. I'd just go stricter on parental controls actual adults can easily disable rather than making the decision for everyone.
half a moon
Banned
Maybe it looks nintendoland cheap to me on stream. I didn't get a chance to fire up my wii u to play.
Far as we're aware, this actually exists.
Solid Samus
Banned
If you're being legit then check out some screens. Might not change your mind on the art style itself but technically this game doesn't seem like it was just slapped together.
But I mean IMO Nintyland didn't either, sometimes anyway
GTA has this wonderful feature that lets you mute everyone but your friends and/or crew or just turn off chat entirely. And then those who don't want to listen to randoms or anyone can and those who do want to use voice can too. Magical, right? Not sure why nintendo can't do that or has something against allowing that.
Nintendoland has a fantastic attention to detail with varying unique art styles cohesive to each attraction. You're intentionally being obstinate and unfair on this matter because you're forced to interpret a franchise you're unfamiliar with.
8BitsAtATime
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I wonder what happened to Swapnote? Hmmmm...Nintendo has its reason for playing it safe
I think their OS's do much more in the background. Microsoft has that nifty snap functionality and both consoles have suspend and resume. I know with the Wii U you can basically just access the e-shop and the web browser but not much else unfortunately.
Brutalitops
Banned
It's a Nintendo game. It's lucky Splatoon has the online elements it does.
This is one area I look forward to Nintendo aligning with Sony and Microsoft.
This is one area I look forward to Nintendo aligning with Sony and Microsoft.
StarStabbedMoon
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This thread has long since derailed from voicing opinions into simply calling any resemblance of defense "wrong" mixed in with completely off-topic complaints about the RAM used for the Wii U OS and Splatoon being a Sunset Overdrive clone.
I generally prefer more options but the critics are quickly changing my mind.
Triggerhappytel
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I'm amazed people are trying to defend and justify this. There should be at least the option for party chat or friend chat, rather than nothing at all.
velvet_nitemare
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Parental controls. Default off. Voice chat limited to only between friends. Party chat.
Those consoles will reduce their OS footprint overtime. Look at PS3 for instance.
SinCityAssassin
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I'd be fine for the option of voice chat for other people, but I prefer my online battles in relative verbal silence.
velvet_nitemare
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What about chatting with friends? Because you can't do that either.
who is 'you'? lol
I mean be honest...what's your beef against the 'OPTION' to have voice chat/mute? I can't think of a single good reason other than it's my favorite company I must defend their policies no matter how ancient they may be or some bs like that. It's a basic feature. And Nintendo should be looking to 'expand' it's current audience. And this is definitely not the right way to do so.
I swear there's a defense force for everything on Gaf
Does the Wii U not have a party chat function? Not an owner so I wouldn't know.
velvet_nitemare
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Nope.