"Quick! Reroute all power to the forward deflector shields!"
IGN: Splatoon's lack of voice chat is "cheap and lazy"
- Thread starter Oddduck
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"Quick! Reroute all power to the forward deflector shields!"
We just want stupid to stop being such. Even if it's to no avail.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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KazenY2J
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It's ridiculous at this point, any other developer/publisher would've got a bigger backlash from any of this.
Gucci Messiah
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Anytime somebody questions Nintendo's decisions = complaining
This is what some people actually believe guys
Competitive players are always pushing the limits of what would be considered "intended" play in almost every platform. Be it third party chat programs on pc even when voice comms are included to specialized equipment like custom controllers to in-game strategies/exploits that become part of 'standard competitive play'.
I hope Splatoon does attract a competitive core. It will be healthy for the game's potential as a franchise.
Uno Venova
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That really puts things into perspective. Wow.
RoboGeorgeForeman
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Every group of fanboys are fucking ridiculous. Also why lump all those issues together with this one? I absolutely can't stand Nintendo's region locking, their online infrastructure, and I think locking content behind Amiibos is absolutely stupid yet I don't give two shits about there not being voice chat in this game.
Yeah, but giving a list of things "Nintendo fans" or "people" defend certainly gives the impression that you're lumping everyone together. I'm not bothered by the lack of voice chat in Splatoon but I'm not a fan of Nintendo's Youtube policy. So I'm pretty sure there were *different* people that "defended" Nintendo decisions you thought were bad. This was the obvious problem with your previous post but I couldn't bother to make an issue. Now that you called out someone else, I couldn't resist.
autoduelist
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You do know there is a difference between an opinion piece representing the opinion of one person and a product rollout of a major corporation which represents the collective decisions of dozens of people, right?
Of particular note, one is just an article a small group of people will read. The other is a bought and paid for product that people will be actually using.
Not to mention, anyone is free to criticize either.
Easy, because it makes you miss out on simple fun. Life isn't about getting everything you want, otherwise you will always be disappointed. Us discussing on a thread is not going to change anything, but just have you all waste breath. Iam no defending I think it's stupid splatoon does not have voice chat, but I will still love the game because I have accepted it's shorcomings and postive sides. That's the difference from immaturity and maturity.
Not necessarily. Bungie's boneheaded decision to not include voice chat in Destiny was met with a similar amount of justification on the part of the fans.
At least there though there were system options to somewhat circumvent it.
Neither do I. I don't want anyone to assume Nintendo should get a free pass.
They are a company which does SO MANY THINGS wrong, but so does every other company and every other human.
It's like people who go "Oh, Nintendo is so backwards"...Nintendo ain't backwards, just some of their staff are.
I just fear that people will complain and shut this game down and it will bomb because reviews will be like "No Voice Chat! 6.9!" and people will browse and be like "Yup, another dud from Nintendo with a new ip...hey, when's the last time Nintendo made a new ip which was good?".
I don't see how that has anything to do with my post.
The people who will play competitively with their own group will, probably, be people who use the matchmaking update that comes out in August. No shit will you be expecting people to be more co-ordinated, they've got their own squad going.
Psycho_Mantis
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Pretty much. Some people just can't accept that their favourite company has made a mistake let alone numerous ones.
Zombie James
Banned
Oh man...
Omega Kirby
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Again I freaking ask, can voice chat be patched in?
Gucci Messiah
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Basically your argument is that we should shut up and accept whatever scraps Nintendo throws at our feet because discussing their faults on a message board dedicated to video games is immature.
This might be the worst post I've ever read on neogaf.
Maybe, maybe not. We'll see when party matchmaking gets patched.
I think bungie (deservedly) got it even worse for their complete lack of social features in a game they marketed as a social game.
People just tend to ignore or forget these kinds of things if it wasn't something they were invested in.
It has varying usability depending on how people respond. Taking high ground with a charger can ley you coat a large area, and pop any enemies, and if they are the vengeful type theyll waste time and come right back to you instead of covering ground. Hook a couple and you can have a devastating win. Its more fantastic if its near a base, and you can keep em from advancing.
If not then you can just teleport to any ally near an area that needs some paint once you are done coating.
It probably can. I'm kind of expecting it to be in the matchmaking update. Kind of wouldn't make sense otherwise.
Gonzo The Great
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I didn't use the term "Nintendo fans" once. Since I too am a Nintendo fan, that would mean I share the same views, which I don't.
You actually typed out these words and then hit enter.
Sure you can't always get what you want but Nintendo leaving voice chat out is leaving being served with a burger that only has half a bun. You'd obviously expect a full bun from a burger, no? That is how some people feel.
True. I edited my post. But since you only listed Nintendo issues the implication was clear.
KirbYuuYuu
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I think it's a sign that a topic discussed a month ago before this article has run its course.
It's also a thread about a Nintendo game. Of course a list of Nintendo things would be posted here.
thisisvlad
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Maybe, just maybe, these aren't excuses but explanations for the design decisions that were made. Maybe there's more to the story than Nintendo is teh silly. There's actually a logical path of cause and effect that arrived at such a point.
So these explanations should be analyzed; as well as the mindset of the people reacting to them.
Defense force or not, if there's a shortage of Amiibos, Id like to know why it has happened. (To be fair underestimating demand is only a part of the overall picture; but you get my point)
That's a good strategy. As a roller I would often hide behind things in squid form if an enemy got too close. Tilting the stick slightly also helps too as it conceals your movement. It's definitely more of a support weapon in Turf Wars allowing others to do more heavy duty stuff. But watching Amano play sniper in two matches I can see alternative play methods. His accuracy is crazy high too with gyro https://youtu.be/PjpcbDmDSEA?t=1h8s
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Oop!
Welp, Its immature to want options now, and totally mature to take what someone gives to you with no opinions whatsoever.
Time to re-enroll in elementary school.
Louis Cyphre
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So talking about why a game in 2015 that has teams does not have voice chat on a game forum is immature but coming to the same forum to say that we should not always expect standard features is being mature?
Hibiki Kurosawa
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And Disney.
But it's a post about things "people" defend not a post about the Nintendo game.
And the poster has claimed that the "people" referred to are not Nintendo fans because that term wasn't used.
Please.
I'm just cutting past the BS here.
Yea I stand by it because that is my opinion on this message board. And I have express my small thoughts on the situation so now ima out of this thread to preoccupy myself with other stuff. Bye guys
Zen_Arcade
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This doesn't make any sense. You don't have to interact with other people during a silent movie. The chatting function in a video game is not the same as a silent movie. They are not even close to serving the same purpose. This isn't even close to being a good analogy.
If they held an Olympics for mental gymnastics, you would probably win the Gold with that post.
This thread is seriously incredible. The number of contortions people can make to justify their ability to stay mum or not care about this problem is truly extraordinary. It just goes to show how varied the human mind is. And how stubborn!
We're immature, we're complaining not criticizing, we haven't played the game, or we have played it but don't understand it, think of the war zone, it's for kids only not adults, it's like a playground you can't complain when you hit your head on the slide, think of the parents
Just remarkable.
Gonzo The Great
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This thread is about Nintendo. I'm not going to deflect and start ragging on Sony and Microsoft for all the stupid decisions (of which there are many) they've made over the years.
I won't defend any one of those points but I'm all for Nintendo's Youtube stance.
Lol yeah some try to make it seem like this defense force is actually bigger than it really is
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Thank you for that response. It's great to know you can communicate with others when the time is right isn't it?
Yes but the squad using third party communication will always exceed competitive groups not using voice chat (as the game was originally meant to be played).
This is why the whole "no chat" feature is a big issue in the first place.
Well be consistent and don't deflect to what "people" say about amiibo or youtube either...
The thread is about Splatoon voice chat.
Yes, but it is still common to refer to newspapers as one entity and see the opinion as a whole. I just need to mention the name Daily Mail and a certain image is conjured up. Usually because you have a company culture that's going to attract like minded individuals. We all see IGN and IGNorant™, Kotaku as slow and Polygon as... well I don't think anyone looks at them anymore. It's not unfair to lump all their staff under one umbrella. Heck people often treat all of GAF like a hivemind.
Night Angel
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The very definition of maturity, right here.
Newtype-001
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KirbYuuYuu
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Even though it is not specifically for this type of game, trying to dredge up other companies mistakes that were defended would've instead, sounded like a desperate attempt to defend Nintendo, which would be the opposite of what Gonzo has done in this topic.
Not to mention it's other people who use Nintendo fans more often than Gonzo has. Unfortunately for you, "Nintendo fans" is a very direct. "Some People" is a vague term in comparison.
R_thanatos
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no no no no , ignoring the possibility of new strategies is not a misplaced concern.. you're just stuck in one way to play and ignore what might happens if player could talk and formulate strategies on the fly by talking to each other.
Hey i'm not saying that i'm godly at splatoon, i'm far from it .. but if your answer is "get good" to those wanting voice chat , then you're as deluded as me.
Also i didn't implying ANYTHINg about killing, i said that this was a game about territory control , there are a number of things that make splattoon different BUT , like any other game, new strategies and new behavior will happen , It would have been much easier for this game if there was voice chat
" i don't need voice chat because i already have all the info i want" << that's not the point ..
Actually, now that I think about it: Why did Oddduck create this thread (and then ran away never to reply to it)?
Why are we even arguing over something that we argued about 2 months ago about?
We shouldn't have threads about people's opinions if we already have a thread about these exact thoughts.
Why are we even arguing over something that we argued about 2 months ago about?
We shouldn't have threads about people's opinions if we already have a thread about these exact thoughts.