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[Lunatic_Gamer]

The first GTA 6 trailer is here and we are blown away by what is being teased. The GTA 6 tech is an evolution of the Rage engine used in Red Dead Redemption 2 and today we take a GTA 6 deep dive into each frame to tell you what we think and why we’re so excited about Grand Theft Auto 6.The GTA 6 release date is 2025 on PS5 and Xbox Series X/S.

 

[ChiefDada]

More educated insights from NX Gamer in the first 5 minutes than the entire 30+min DF "Tech" analysis.

 

[Senua]

I'm not a 30fps guy at all but I have to agree with him that it's the right move, build the game around that target and push the tech hard which will produce stunning results fidelity wise, and can always be corrected to a proper framerate in the future with PC and console upgrades.

More educated insights from NX Gamer in the first 5 minutes than the entire 30+min DF "Tech" analysis.

Yea a nice and concise video. I miss when DF did these type vids instead of the personality approach, I think they should save for for their podcast like directs. NX really needs to upgrade his mic though it sounds so weird hearing an xbox 360 headset being used on an IGN upload.

 

[Lumpyoatmeal]

The first GTA 6 trailer is here and we are blown away by what is being teased. The GTA 6 tech is an evolution of the Rage engine used in Red Dead Redemption 2 and today we take a GTA 6 deep dive into each frame to tell you what we think and why we’re so excited about Grand Theft Auto 6.The GTA 6 release date is 2025 on PS5 and Xbox Series X/S.

This analysis was dope.

It looks like GTA 6 has hurricanes in it (2:48)? God damn.

 

[sendit]

I'm not a 30fps guy at all but I have to agree with him that it's the right move, build the game around that target and push the tech hard which will produce stunning results fidelity wise, and can always be corrected to a proper framerate in the future with PC and console upgrades.

Yea a nice and concise video. I miss when DF did these type vids instead of the personality approach, I think they should save for for their podcast like directs. NX really needs to upgrade his mic though it sounds so weird hearing an xbox 360 headset being used on an IGN upload.

I would agree with targetting 30 FPS only if they did a day one PC release.

 

[Zuzu]

A good in-depth but concise analysis

 

[rodrigolfp]

build the game around that target and push the tech hard which will produce stunning results fidelity wise

Then target 15 fps. Or 7,5.

 

[Rudius]

Finally a good analysis.

 

[Senua]

Then target 15 fps. Or 7,5.

But that would be unplayable Mr rodrigolfp

 

[Zathalus]

No new information or insights sadly. More confirmation of RTGI and RT reflections though

 

[squidilix]

More educated insights from NX Gamer in the first 5 minutes than the entire 30+min DF "Tech" analysis.

True. I prefer this kind of lengh than Battaglia Show

 

[Deerock71]

Then target 15 fps. Or 7,5.

Goldeneye was amazing for the N64, as was Perfect Dark.

 

[rodrigolfp]

But that would be unplayable Mr rodrigolfp

What? Never locked games to those frame rates to see how playable they are?

 

[Diddy X]

Will wait for 2026 to play it on PC in all its full glory

 

[bitbydeath]

I would agree with targetting 30 FPS only if they did a day one PC release.

I’m still waiting on Sons of the Forest for consoles. Sometimes you gotta wait for the good stuff.

 

[Caio]

Finally a good analysis, and not that Battaglia "ego show", and yes, I won't repeat what I've already said about him.

Here we are talking about Consoles versions, and must be also considered the nature of the Game, a massive open world game with massive density of cars, people, and probably, "enterable" buildings, improved system collision and physics engine.

 

[sendit]

I’m still waiting on Sons of the Forest for consoles. Sometimes you gotta wait for the good stuff.

You aren't missing much with that game.

 

[Schmick]

It's quite simple, if you want games pushed to the limit then 30fps for console. Anything above that PC.

 

[Represent.]

I would agree with targetting 30 FPS only if they did a day one PC release.

So gimp and limit the game at 60fps just because theres no pc version?

 

[Moses85]

GTA 6 makes Spider Man 2 look like a PS4 Game

Insane, absolutely insane what Rockstar delivers

 

[ChiefDada]

GTA 6 makes Spider Man 2 look like a PS4 Game

Insane, absolutely insane what Rockstar delivers

Let's not get carried away. SM2 still has the best draw distance I've seen and even beats GTA 6 here in it's current form.

But in pretty much every other area, yes I would agree.

 

[sendit]

So gimp and limit the game at 60fps just because theres no pc version?

You're gimping fluid gameplay by limiting it to 30 FPS.

 

[Represent.]

You're gimping fluid gameplay by limiting it to 30 FPS.

You're enhancing the game by making it 30fps. Everything else is improved. 60fps is the limiting factor here, everything has to be toned down... for ... framerate

 

[sendit]

You're enhancing the game by making it 30fps. Everything else is improved. 60fps is the limiting factor here, everything has to be tones down.

Nothing is enhanced by playing a slide show.

 

[Represent.]

Nothing is enhanced by playing a slide show.

Its only a slideshow if your eyesight is worse than a rock

 

[Moses85]

Nothing is enhanced by playing a slide show.

 

[sendit]

Its only a slideshow if your eyesight is worse than a rock

Good one.

 

[Represent.]

Good one.

"slideshow"

 

[sendit]

"slideshow"

Funny that you think a gif cut from a youtube video is Represent. of actual gameplay.

 

[Represent.]

Funny that you think a gif cut from youtube video is Represent. of actual gameplay.

Show me one video of gameplay on YT where 30fps looks like a "slideshow"

any game. you cant. because it doesnt

 

[sendit]

Show me one video of gameplay on YT where 30fps looks like a "slideshow"

any game. you cant. because it doesnt

Lol at you taking slide show literally.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Looking amazing while running at 30fps is still running at a shitty 30fps.

 

[Represent.]

Lol at you taking slide show literally.

Its perfectly smooth. 30fps will make GTA6 a better game.

Im glad R* doesn't listen to you framerate warriors. We'd be getting another PS4 tier game at 60fps and you'd all eat it up.

 

[clintar]

Looking amazing while running at 30fps is still running at a shitty 30fps.

And looking amazing.

 

[sendit]

I'm wondering why people get upset when others ask for an un-compromised game play experience with a day 1 PC release.

 

[Hunnybun]

Its only a slideshow if your eyesight is worse than a rock

There's no need to be so strident about this. Plenty of us think 30fps looks shit because of how choppy it is. I'm one of them. Smooth motion is a component of visual fidelity, no matter how much you want to deny it.

Personally I'm not insistent on 60; 40fps seems mostly fine to me, tbh. But I don't like 30 at all, and the only reason is because to me it looks terrible. You just happen to be lucky that you're not able to appreciate the difference.

 

[sendit]

There's no need to be so strident about this. Plenty of us think 30fps looks shit because of how choppy it is. I'm one of them. Smooth motion is a component of visual fidelity, no matter how much you want to deny it.

Personally I'm not insistent on 60; 40fps seems mostly fine to me, tbh. But I don't like 30 at all, and the only reason is because to me it looks terrible. You just happen to be lucky that you're not able to appreciate the difference.

Agreed. 40 FPS with VRR is a good compromise for consoles. I would have binned Spider Man 2 if it didn't have that option. 30 FPS is rough in that game.

 

[Hunnybun]

Agreed. 40 FPS with VRR is a good compromise for consoles. I would have binned Spider Man 2 if it didn't have that option. 30 FPS is rough in that game.

Is the performance mode no good on that then? Not got round to it yet.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Some 30 fps games do look choppy while others don’t. Why?

 

[Luipadre]

Some 30 fps games do look choppy while others don’t. Why?

framepacing and the quality of motion blur

 

[lughnasadh123]

And looking amazing.

Let's hope there's an option for us all to chose from to best suit our own personal needs.

 

[Sid Of Bee]

Then target 15 fps. Or 7,5.

There was a time.....

 

[ReBurn]

I think NXG is kind of falling into the same trap DF did. I get being hyped about what was rendered for the trailer. It looks really nice. But I don't know that we've seen anything that indicates that gameplay is actually going to run at the same quality as what are obviously cutscenes strung together. It may be a bit too soon to be singing the praises of what this version of RAGE brings to the table in terms of in-game visuals. In-engine vs. in-game are often different. I really hope it's this quality, though.

 

[Senua]

I think NXG is kind of falling into the same trap DF did. I get being hyped about what was rendered for the trailer. It looks really nice. But I don't know that we've seen anything that indicates that gameplay is actually going to run at the same quality as what are obviously cutscenes strung together. It may be a bit too soon to be singing the praises of what this version of RAGE brings to the table in terms of in-game visuals. In-engine vs. in-game are often different. I really hope it's this quality, though.

Rockstar's track record speaks for itself in that regard

 

[Tchu-Espresso]

Its only a slideshow if your eyesight is worse than a rock

Or if you own an OLED.

 

[Represent.]

Or if you own an OLED.

I own an OLED, its super smooth

 

[Bojji]

GTA 6 makes Spider Man 2 look like a PS4 Game

Insane, absolutely insane what Rockstar delivers

Massive difference in lighting quality.

Rtgi or path tracing will be a standard next gen with good IQ and performance.

I'm personally surprised that GTA6 is using two RT techniques, it's very expensive on those consoles but if they can pull it off with visual quality shown in the trailer and stable performance then hats off to rockstar.

 

[Schmendrick]

I own an OLED, its super smooth

You recommend stuff like HDR vivid modes with input lag from hell and colour profiles an acid junkie could barely imagine and think it's fine, your opinion is therefore by default invalid.

 

[solidus12]

True. I prefer this kind of lengh than Battaglia Show

Battaglia is so unlikable.

 

[Tchu-Espresso]

I own an OLED, its super smooth

No it’s not. You are not fooling anyone with that bullshit.