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[Gonzito]

raytracing is useless

Now say this without crying

 

[GudOlRub]

The 3600 is the closest to the 4800S performance wise, hence why Alex uses it I reckon.
Of course 100% parity is pretty much impossible, but it's better to low ball the performance figures so that if games perform better on consoles they are positively surprised rather than using a more powerful CPU that sets false expectations and then have a bunch of rabid idiots screaming in your ears because in your analysis it looked like performance was going to be better than what it is.

 

[Bojji]

right!
So they indeed make a lot out of it.

For sure api is more efficient than DX12 (I'm not sure about vulcan) but in the case of DD2 other things could be involved like infamous Capcom drm's, just awful pc port etc. NXG computer also underperfoms for some reason according to other youtuber.

There are only few games with known CPU related drops on consoles so it's really hard to compare performance like for like with cpu's.

 

[delishcaek]

The RT reflections look kinda bad when driving around at native 1440p, tons of noise and blurry as well, DLSS makes it worse as base res is lower. I get best results when I play native 4k with DSR or use the image scaling option set to 2x at 1440p (so 5k res). Hope this will be further improved with GTA6, because this has got to be one of the best RT implementations so far. Hope RDR2 gets the same love further down the line.

I kinda want to replay GTA5 now, I haven't touched it in like 7 years or so (except for testing the RT patch on console a couple years ago).

 

[ChiefDada]

It's 3700 with gutted cache, lower clock and few other cuts.

And not encumbered by asset decompression. Which is critical for GTA. You lot always forget that bit.

 

[yogaflame]

Off topic: Yes raytracing looks good, but still, not a necessity. To be honest, for me I dont like the trend that Ray tracing really matters , which influencers or video game journalist or vloggers portrays important and conditions our mind, because its expensive and it really takes a hit on resources which affects the most important aspect of a game which are frame rate, physics, and IQ. I rather have good IQ,excellent physics and good frame rate than Raytracing. Personally, moving forward, I learned not to be hung up with raytracing features whether it's on a powerful console/pc or not.

 

[Gaiff]

Tsk tsk Alex still using the Ryzen 3600 to determine the potential of the PS5/Pro as if it hasn't consistently outperformed PC counterpart.

It hasn't to any significant degree. If it runs really badly on PC, then it's unlikely to be good on consoles. Can it be better? Sure, but not by enough to get you out of the woods.

 

[Moses85]

needs a remake

ND

 

[Bojji]

And not encumbered by asset decompression. Which is critical for GTA. You lot always forget that bit.

TBH I really forgot about that.

Hardware decompression can explain PS5 CPU performing better in some games (could be the reason for DD2 as well) but it's not used in all games.

 

[Thebonehead]

What's the loading time like with this patch

It was minutes befoere when i last tried

 

[Kilau]

Now say this without crying

All of you so serious lol.

 

[Bojji]

What's the loading time like with this patch

It was minutes befoere when i last tried

Counted this on 5800X3D:

Vs. PS5

This is main menu to gameplay.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

This game has some insane CPU issues on PC. But they did optimization on consoles:

PS5 Pro wins with 5600X (that is better better cpu than 3600).

Don't use DD2 as a guide, it's literally the one game in existence that makes the console chips appear bizarrely performant next to mid range PC CPUs.

I'm afraid that on average the 5600x is substantially more capable even than the PS5 Pro CPU, which I believe is about as on par with the 3700x (a chip while was a minor improvement over the 3600).

 

[Lysandros]

The 3600 is the closest to the 4800S performance wise, hence why Alex uses it I reckon.
Of course 100% parity is pretty much impossible, but it's better to low ball the performance figures so that if games perform better on consoles they are positively surprised rather than using a more powerful CPU that sets false expectations and then have a bunch of rabid idiots screaming in your ears because in your analysis it looked like performance was going to be better than what it is.

3600 is still quite a bit faster than 4800 S in a fair number of cases there. While allowed to boost significantly higher than on consoles at that. This only emphasizes the advantages of the console environment when it comes to CPU performance.

 

[Puscifer]

Whoever says that raytracing is useless is a complete ignorant

I just say constantly it depends. There's games without RT that lighting artist composed that I'm impressed with still.

 

[awwr999999]

This game had enough rereleases. GTA4 would be a good candidate for a remake...

Rockstar shouldn't remake any of their games and PlayStation has far too many remakes as it is.
PlayStation needs to add HW PS1/2 BC to the PS6 and just allow studios to rerelease all of their games with simple modernizations.
Rereleasing PS1/2 games with DualSense functionality would allow studios to generate passive income from their PS1/2 games while focusing their resources on making new games.
Studios could do what they want with PS3 games but many have already been ported or remade for x86 PS.

 

[consoul]

Polygons were a mistake.

 

[roosnam1980]

got to say the performance is very impressive on a ryzen 3600 with an rx6600 , mostly 60fps with every raytracing setting enabled and on high , raster settings on ultra
some dips here and there but im sure framegen would fix it
ps5 version underperforms in comparison