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[Boogie]

I don't want to start World War Three here, but you didn't read my post. The Islmaic government's didn't do anything in Afganistan or Chehnya or Iraq. It was the Jihadi's. A world war doesn't have to involve nations. Paramilitary groups and terrorists can cause more damage, death and destruction than any government. Look at Rwanda, Cambodia and the Sudan. Look at the current front in the war on terror, Iraq. Roving bands of resistance fighters are killing tens of people everyday. And I highly doubt it's going to end come Jan. 30. A large majority of these people came from outside Iraq. Why? Because they felt they had been called to arms in defence of Islam and one of her most holy areas. What will happen if Bush get a idea in his puny head that Iran had nukes, or Syria has Anthrax. How do you think the people there will feel? How would you feel,if you saw your neighbour country and religious brothers attacked?

No, Terrorists can't cause more destruction than a government. International terrorism is not a truly serious global threat (that is, it does not truly threaten the societies of "the West" despite what George W. Bush would have people believe).

Look at Cambodia? Sudan? These are the actions of goverments (or government supported groups). World Wars involve states. States are still the predominant actors in world politics [/second year International Relations textbook].

A few thousand insurgents in Iraq killing a couple American troops per day is not a threat to global stability.

 

[android]

(or government supported groups).

Sorry that was what I was trying to convey. Those who don't annouce themselves as commbatants, like America, Britain, China do. It was tied into my lower protion of the post. And Cambodia is the only one of the three that doesn't really fit. Rwanda and the Sudan are nothing more than roving bands of thugs killing anyone they want. Chopping arms off infants so they can't hold gun in the future. I don't care if they're governments support them or give them they're orders, they are not soliders. It's not two army clashing on a field, with tanks, artillery and soliders in trenches.

 

[Boogie]

Okay, fine, but that's not what we're arguing about. This topic was about the possibility of WWIII. You can't just go off on a tangent about internal conflicts because you can't support the previous ideas you brought up, and then act like I've misunderstood you all along.

 

[android]

You can't just go off on a tangent about internal conflicts because you can't support the previous ideas you brought up, and then act like I've misunderstood you all along.

Yes I can. I'm taking my ball and going home.

As I said I was just throwing out examples. I was just listing people who quite frankly despise each other. I personally don't think it will happen. I was proven wrong. Thanks. I still think this world is a sh*thole and is no better shape than being in a world war.

then act like I've misunderstood you all along

I meant I didn't express myself properly. I didn't mean it was your fault for not understanding.

 

[Boogie]

I meant I didn't express myself properly. I didn't mean it was your fault for not understanding.

Okay, no worries.

 

[Guileless]

Democracies not fighting each other (historically) is not a theory, it's verifiable fact. It made an impression on me in an international conflict class, becaue everything else we looked at was highly theoretical. That was the only conclusion anyone in the field could state with a clear factual basis. People still argue about why that is so, but the underlying fact itself is unassailable.

And I did read recently that for the first time in history, a majority of the world's people live under consensual governments. I think it was Fareed Zakaria's column in Newsweek. At any rate, I didn't just make it up.

Most of the world do not live in democracies -- not even close. That was my point.

Not even close? How do you figure? I don't see how you can't count India; they have had several peaceful transfers of power where the ruling party lost an election.