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[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Vista SP2 is actually decent and solid.

You can repeat it until the words lose meaning, but this has never been my experience.

The fact that it has UAC makes it much more secure than XP.

Not when everyone is turning it off because it's annoying. At least 7 has the smart feature where UAC only comes up when it's not a user-made action.

 

[clav]

You can repeat it until the words lose meaning, but this has never been my experience.

Not when everyone is turning it off because it's annoying. At least 7 has the smart feature where UAC only comes up when it's not a user-made action.

Man, you are such a douschebag. "Repeat it until the words lose meaning"

Come on man. Why are you stepping on people's toes for?

Vista SP2 is excellent for what it is.

You still can't deny it has UAC. I don't know what you are doing that creates those UAC prompts in Vista.

 

[Vandiger]

Vista Ultimate (64bit) boots up quick, like 30 seconds or less. This is on my recent HTPC/Gaming build. I don't have it on wireless though, I use a bridge to connect which works well for my setup. I don't get all the Vista hate, spent a year figuring Vista was crap until I finally resolved to get it and has been my favorite MS OS since Windows 2000 (64bit).

 

[Reseil]

No. The OEM key was the sticker on the bottom. It was a successful install. Activation does not generate a different key. It's based on the product key you entered for installation.

Exactly, the install will always be successful with Vista since you can alter the product key after the install. What you experienced was the OEM key from the bottom conflicting with the media you installed from. That key was a mismatch, thus requiring you to get a manual key directly from M$ via phone activation. That key is now flagged as phone activation only now since you called it in for manual activation.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Man, you are such a douschebag. "Repeat it until the words lose meaning"

Come on man. Why are you stepping on people's toes for?

You're the one telling me how my experience with the OS has been.

You still can't deny it has UAC.

Absolutely, but I don't find it's a good feature when most of us are turning it off because it's annoying. As said, 7's UAC implementation is smarter.

 

[clav]

Exactly, the install will always be successful with Vista since you can alter the product key after the install. What you experienced was the OEM key from the bottom conflicting with the media you installed from. That key was a mismatch, thus requiring you to get a manual key directly from M$ via phone activation. That key is now flagged as phone activation only now since you called it in for manual activation.

You just told me my install was unsuccessful.

Well, the key didn't have a built-in OEM validator program to validate it as OEM. That's why I had to call.

You're the one telling me how my experience with the OS has been.

Absolutely, but I don't find it's a good feature when most of us are turning it off because it's annoying. As said, 7's UAC implementation is smarter.

As the same for everything. You're doing something wrong or I don't know. I can't change your mind about Vista as for many people already brainwashed. You're the one who stated there's no reason to defend Vista. It sucks. blah bah blah

Yes, 7's implementation is smarter, but the reasons to turn off UAC in Vista just seem really trivial and stupid.

 

[Ultimo hombre]

The best tip is upgrade to Windows 7.

 

[captive]

Alternatively, the power management settings may be turning off your wireless connection to save power.

You could try this:

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Wi...cf-0698-41ba-b014-ea0a2eb8d0a81033.mspx#EYJAC

Or perhaps some of the crap that came bundled in with the laptop is messing up your shit.

I came in to suggest this. I have two fresh installs of Vista ultimate 64 on a laptop and desktop, both times power options were set by default to balanced instead of best performance.

 

[clav]

The best tip is upgrade to Windows 7.

It would be a smoother experience for the OP to start from Vista and do an upgrade unless you want the OP to do another reinstall for 7600 after he installs 7 7100 over.

 

[MultiCore]

Probably should have upgraded to Leopard. If the cost is too prohibitive, then at least upgrade to XP. Vista is dogshit.

Incognito
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(Today, 10:06 PM)

This just isn't true. Vista is not a poor OS.

 

[Erebus]

I'm a zealous supporter of XP but after trying Vista on my new PC and seeing how good it runs, I don't think I'll ever go back again.

OP, reinstall Vista or stick with XP if the problem persists, even though I'm sure that your problem isn't solely Vista's fault.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

This just isn't true. Vista is not a poor OS.

But it IS a memory hogging whore.

Vista turned me into a Mac owner. That's how much it pissed me off. I shouldn't have to almost double the power of my PC (which barely did anything more than web browse 80% of the time) to run a new OS.

When I buy an iMac later in the year, I might install 7 on it. My brother is using 7 right now and it runs magnificently.

 

[Reseil]

You just told me my install was unsuccessful.

My mistake, I assumed you meant that you installed the OS with a standard install disc and successfully activated it with an OEM key without having to call for manual activation, which is not possible. Just make sure that for any future reinstalls, they can expect to have to call India for activation.

My whole point was that you can't mix and match OEM keys with standard install discs natively.

 

[MojoRisin]

http://www.linuxmint.com

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

But it IS a memory hogging whore.

Vista turned me into a Mac owner. That's how much it pissed me off. I shouldn't have to almost double the power of my PC (which barely did anything more than web browse 80% of the time) to run a new OS.

When I buy an iMac later in the year, I might install 7 on it. My brother is using 7 right now and it runs magnificently.

*yawn* cry me a river....

 

[Ranger X]

Are you on a 32 bit or 63 bit Vista?

My Core7 and Vista Home premium 64 are incredibly nice friends. It runs ridiculously good. Better than the 32 bit XP Home premium I had just before.

.

 

[Mar]

I tried to use Vista for the first time ever a few weeks ago. When my brother in law asked me to fix something on his laptop.

It was the single worst OS experience I have ever had in my 20 years of using computers professionally and casually.

I couldn't find anything I was looking for, it was slow, and it was completely unintuitive. I hadn't even had any beers at that point either. Then again, maybe that was the problem.

 

[Diablos]

My first two days of having Vista haven't been too good. It runs pretty fast but there are times when my internet connection completely gets futzed and I"m unable to use any browsers (yet im's work).

There are other problems, but so far, that's the big one.

I hear that disabling or uninstalling some third party programs can go a long way, but I'm not seeing too many programs that could interfere with my OS. Then again, Asus packaged a bunch of shit in this I don't care about.

I haven't found anything that's helping me out. My internet just randomly drops. I've googled this problem and it seems like it's had its share of problems in the past but I can't find a concrete way to fix it.

Thankfully I get a free Windows 7 upgrade when it drops, but still, I'm going to have to settle for Vista until then. Collective GAF, what's the best way to make Vista not suck? So far I've installed all the updates I think.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx

Why not use that for now?

 

[clav]

But it IS a memory hogging whore.

Vista turned me into a Mac owner. That's how much it pissed me off. I shouldn't have to almost double the power of my PC (which barely did anything more than web browse 80% of the time) to run a new OS.

When I buy an iMac later in the year, I might install 7 on it. My brother is using 7 right now and it runs magnificently.

lol, Mac is a resource hog, too! This thing crawls on a Dell Mini 9. It slows with 512 MB of RAM, and you need at least 2GB to run it smoothly. Plus, the installation is bloated and fat filled with drivers you don't need.

More than half of my hard drive space is consumed from OS X's native install.

Vista hogs resources for prefetching. Mac does this, too!

I have a desktop at home running an AMD Athlon XP 2800+ with 1 GB of PC3200 RAM on Vista. This thing runs Vista just fine. It doesn't even have SSE2!

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I bought Vista Ultimate x64 along when I built my computer back in December. I liked the OS, but it definitely has its problems. I just upgraded to Windows 7 RC last night and it is great. So far everything have been much more responsive, although I haven't done much extensive testing. However, it seems to be the general consensus that Window 7 is superior to Vista in every way.

Just go ahead and download the Windows 7 RC from Microsoft's website. Use Daemon Tools, MagicISO or some other virtual disk drive program to mount the ISO and install it via the upgrade option. It might take a while if you have a large HDD that is pretty full, but you shouldn't have any problems.

You won't be able to download the Windows 7 RC from Microsoft after August, 5th or something and I think they will stop giving out trial keys, so go ahead and get it now even if you won't install it for a while.

If you plan on getting Windows 7 when it comes out then there is absolutely no reason for you to stick with Vista. Go for it!

 

[giga]

lol, Mac is a resource hog, too! This thing crawls on a Dell Mini 9. It slows with 512 MB of RAM, and you need at least 2GB to run it smoothly. Plus, the installation is bloated and fat filled with drivers you don't need.

More than half of my hard drive space is consumed from OS X's native install.

Vista hogs resources for prefetching. Mac does this, too!

I have a desktop at home running an AMD Athlon XP 2800+ with 1 GB of PC3200 RAM on Vista. This thing runs Vista just fine. It doesn't even have SSE2!

It runs smoothly with 1gb. You can easily untick the drivers you don't want installed in the installation, reducing the size down to 6gb. Tut tut.

 

[clav]

It runs smoothly with 1gb. You can easily untick the drivers you don't want installed in the installation, reducing the size down to 6gb. Tut tut.

Doesn't explain why there have to be all variants of broadcom, chipsets, sound, video drivers, etc. on there.

 

[giga]

Doesn't explain why there have to be all variants of broadcom, chipsets, sound, video drivers, etc. on there.

Because not all Macs have the same components? Removing all video drivers save for your specific one won't save much space either way.

 

[Rentahamster]

I bought Vista Ultimate x64 along when I built my computer back in December. I liked the OS, but it definitely has its problems.

Really? I haven't had any significant problems with Vista 64.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Really? I haven't had any significant problems with Vista 64.

Don't get me wrong, I never had any significant difficulties with Vista. There were just certain things about the UI and occasionally the performance that were kind of annoying. There were plenty of such things in XP as well, though. I like Vista a lot, but from the few hours I have spent with Windows 7 so far I doubt I will ever want to go back.

 

[Vyer]

Damn, I bet Himuro was hoping for something other than 'reinstall Vista' as the solution on his two day old computer. :lol

Maybe ASUS packed in some bit of software that's causing him problems...maybe a reset of IE (if that's what he's using)...

 

[Proc]

My recommendation is to try and land a 64 bit disc and install it with whatever cd key you have. Then disable uac and the sidebar crap.

 

[Windu]

vista is fine, it's the people that are bullshit. there, i said it.

Get your common sense out of here! It has no place in this thread.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

After fixing computers all day and all long, I blame the customers more than the OS really, the OS doesn't go scott free, but the negative hype gets grating more than anything simply because people don't know what they are doing really.

"Well, yeah of course that old software isn't going to work on this brand new Vista machine!"

Most Vista brand new decent spec machines are 3GB and over (if it's 64-bit, of course there is compatibility issues, devs have been dragging their feet with 64-bit and I'm disappointed MS just didn't make Windows 7 64-bit standard) and just get rid of any software you don't need, you can turn off the annoying UAC, it's there to help the less uninformed for permission, seeing as how much crap people get infected with, I guess it's a wash.

 

[VPhys]

7

Make no mistake.

 

[Dilly]

Never had any problems with Vista whatsoever since release, runs more stable than XP. UAC is turned off though, couldn't be bothered with it.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I love how easy it is to adjust UAC settings in Windows 7. After upgrading last night and immediately getting a bunch of permission pop-ups I was happy to see that I could simply click on a button and be brought to a screen that allowed me to adjust what circumstances permission is asked or to simply disable UAC.

I remember having to jump through some hoops to disable UAC in Vista (although I'm sure it is simple if you know what you are doing).

 

[dLMN8R]

Turn off network power saving stuff. Problem solved. Thread closed.

 

[BlueTsunami]

I haven't even noticed UAC on Windows 7 at its default settings. It only appears for installations and starting programs that aren't too UAC friendly (which I don't use a lot of). I can appreciate what its doing though (As far as security).

 

[itxaka]

Talking about UAC, anyone knows if you can grant permissions to a program so it executes with administrative rigths without asking every time?

Stupid Sims game won't work properly if not launched with admin rigths

 

[CrookedRain]

Seriously, if you just got yourself a new laptop with bloatware installed, it makes a world of difference if you do a clean install of Vista. If the laptop manufacturer did not provide you with some way of doing a clean install of Vista, see if you can get someone to loan you a copy of Vista. It DOES NOT have to be an OEM version for you to activate it. Here's all you need to do:

1) Download Activation Backup and Restore

2) Extract the zip and run "activation_backup.exe". This will backup your current activation to a file that you can restore later. Save the program and output to a USB key or somewhere else safe such as an external hard drive or another computer. Also backup anything else you think you might need because it'll all be gone when you reinstall Vista.

3) Boot off the Vista DVD and reinstall Vista. Make sure you install the same version you originally had on your laptop. When it asks for a CD key during install, just leave it blank and continue with the installation.

4) After Vista installation finishes, put the directory with Activation Backup and Restore and its output back on your computer. Now run "activation_restore.exe" and it should restore your Vista activation.

5) Right click on "Computer" and select "Properties" to open up the System window. If you scroll down to "Windows activation," it should now say "Windows is activated." If you had this window open prior to running the activation restore, you'll need to close and reopen the window to see the change.

6) Reinstall all your drivers and everything else you need.

I just used this method to reinstall Vista Home Premium x64 on my laptop using an OEM key and retail disc and everything worked out perfectly. It worked for another friend as well.

 

[Parham]

Talking about UAC, anyone knows if you can grant permissions to a program so it executes with administrative rigths without asking every time?

Stupid Sims game won't work properly if not launched with admin rigths

Right-click the .exe file and select "Run as Administrator".

 

[itxaka]

Right-click the .exe file and select "Run as Administrator".

Still get a UAC screen. I want that exe to launch with admin rigths always as there is no way of it working properly without them, but I don't want the screen every time I launch it. That is what I meant

 

[sarcastor]

I'm currently running xp with a e4300 (1.8ghz d2c cpu) with 4gb ram and my computer is having major problems. so i have to reinstall windows xp.

will i get any significant improvement if i did a fresh install with vista home premium 64 bit, or will my computer chug like a retarded stepchild?

 

[Htown]

Vista's fine.

People always bitch about the new thing because it's not the old thing.

 

[SnakeXs]

Vista's fine.

People always bitch about the new thing because it's not the old thing.

What's Windows 7's major malfunction then? Not much backlash there. Not to mention nearly every OS X release around (some bug qualms aside).

 

[delirium]

But it IS a memory hogging whore.

Vista turned me into a Mac owner. That's how much it pissed me off. I shouldn't have to almost double the power of my PC (which barely did anything more than web browse 80% of the time) to run a new OS.

When I buy an iMac later in the year, I might install 7 on it. My brother is using 7 right now and it runs magnificently.

It's called SuperFetch. Vista is using your memory that otherwise is just doing nothing.

 

[Kozak]

get better computer

 

[Blackface]

But it IS a memory hogging whore.

Vista turned me into a Mac owner. That's how much it pissed me off. I shouldn't have to almost double the power of my PC (which barely did anything more than web browse 80% of the time) to run a new OS.

When I buy an iMac later in the year, I might install 7 on it. My brother is using 7 right now and it runs magnificently.

Did you have the oldest piece of dog shit PC in the world? My crappy Netbook can run Vista and play 720P movies.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Dled Windows 7.

So far it's pretty good, but is it possible to make the taskbar not suck shit?

As in, can I use classic Windows taskbar?

I really hate what MS had done to the Windows interface over the past two OS versions. When I click programs, I want to display all programs at once; I don't want to have to scroll for shit. When I use a taskbar, I don't want it all over the place either.

The taskbar doesn't suck shit. It's nearly perfect. The old XP and Vista taskbar was useless.

 

[cntr]

Right click on the task bar, open up Properties and change "Always Combine, hide Labels" to either "Combine when taskbar is full" or "Never combine" and check "Use small icons"

Edit:

It seems they've killed off my Go To Desktop button on Windows 7's too. Sigh.

Click the end of the taskbar. (the right corner of your screen, if your taskbar is on the bottom)

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

No.

It sucks.

It seems they've killed off my Go To Desktop button on Windows 7's taskbar. Sigh.

That's because it's the little box next to your clock now. Just flick your cursor down to the bottom right of the screen.

Previously in XP and Vista, the taskbar was a pointless waste of screen space. You couldn't actually do anything with taskbar items. They just popped up when a program was open and let you right-click on it to close the window. You couldn't even drag things to most taskbar items to have it interact somehow. It was a complete waste of space.

Even worse: if you had a Quick Launch icon, you could potentially end up with three icons for a running program. The Quick Launch icon, the taskbar item, and a notification area icon. It was redundant and poor design.

7 has really nailed it.

 

[DrM]

My girlfriend is having some problems with Vista on her laptop (Three months old Toshiba Portege). It is loading OS forever. "Please wait" for almost 2 minutes before login window. From there on, system works like charm. Any ideas what could be wrong?

 

[rex64]

It's called SuperFetch.

This.


Vista ain't no memory hog. And superfetch is awesome.


All the so-called "tech-savvy" friends of mine are like "omg vista sux eat all my RAM!" And I say: "Well it's supposed to do so. It's called SuperFetch and..." "ZOMG I need to disable superfetch ASAP!!!!1111".

Jesus, some people don't deserve a pc.

 

[mAcOdIn]

This.


Vista ain't no memory hog. And superfetch is awesome.


All the so-called "tech-savvy" friends of mine are like "omg vista sux eat all my RAM!" And I say: "Well it's supposed to do so. It's called SuperFetch and..." "ZOMG I need to disable superfetch ASAP!!!!1111".

Jesus, some people don't deserve a pc.

Why even have shitloads of RAM if one's unwilling to allow it to be used?