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[onQ123]

123 million monthly active users with 80.2 million PS5's shipped that means over 43 million is coming from PS3 , PSP , Vita , PS4 & Portal

Mostly PS4 because Sony said PS5 just overtook PS4 active users in the last year or so .

Let that sync in

PS4 managed to dominate Xbox Series consoles for what seems to be their whole generation even though Sony clipped the PS4's wings to focus on PS5 production.

Has any other console had a 2 generation lifespan like this? I know PS2 sold 60 million after Xbox 360 launched but I'm not sure how active PS2 users were in 2011 - 2012.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Which makes no sense because the system was already outdated by 2015.

 

[nial]

Of course it does, PS4 sold 38M units on the later phase of its lifecycle (from April 2018 to March 2022), which is more than what the Xbox Series has sold so far.

 

[Fake]

1 - PS4 is a good console overall
2 - Huge player base
3 - Consoles are getting fucking expensive
4 - Playstation 4 games are getting a fucking discount on anywhere, at least the physical media
5 - Dualshock still is a great joystick you can get for both PC and PS4 and PS5, is not as expensive as Dualsense

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

Low effort bait post. Sorry about Sony bro, you'll be ok.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

It's not a hard feat, thought it would be much higher.

 

[onQ123]

Low effort bait post. Sorry about Sony bro, you'll be ok.

Would you like to explain what you're sorry about?

 

[EN250]

Which makes no sense because the system was already outdated by 2015.

HW "power" (idk what are you implying here with outdated other than that) has shit to do with active user player base, PS4 library has a huge list of banger games

 

[Beechos]

Prob more xbox ones and 360s too along with wii, ps3.........

 

[Grildon Tundy]

123 million monthly active users with 80.2 million PS5's shipped that means over 43 million is coming from PS3 , PSP , Vita , PS4 & Portal

Mostly PS4 because Sony said PS5 just overtook PS4 active users in the last year or so .

Let that sync in

PS4 managed to dominate Xbox Series consoles for what seems to be their whole generation even though Sony clipped the PS4's wings to focus on PS5 production.

Has any other console had a 2 generation lifespan like this? I know PS2 sold 60 million after Xbox 360 launched but I'm not sure how active PS2 users were in 2011 - 2012.

Interesting...80M shipped PS5's doesn't necessarily mean PS5s make up 80M of their 123M active users (could be less, meaning more users are on Sony's older platforms), and it's hard to tell what the mix of PS3/PSP/Vita/PS4/Portal users is, but I bet you're not far off on your estimate. Where there are more people still playing PS4 than there are Xbox Series' collecting dust/being played.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

HW "power" (idk what are you implying here with outdated other than that) has shit to do with active user player base, PS4 library has a huge list of banger games

Depends what kind of playerbase this is. People who care about performance, it'd be weird af if they're still on a system that can't handle anything even at a stable 30fps.

 

[onQ123]

Interesting...80M shipped PS5's doesn't necessarily mean PS5s make up 80M of their 123M active users (could be less, meaning more users are on Sony's older platforms), and it's hard to tell what the mix of PS3/PSP/Vita/PS4/Portal users is, but I bet you're not far off on your estimate. Where there are more people still playing PS4 than there are Xbox Series' collecting dust/being played.

I know that's why I said over 43 million & pointed out that PS5 just recently overtook PS4 active user-base .

 

[Magic Carpet]

PS4 was the last great console. PS4 PRO was the last loudest console.
Seriously PS4 did everything right.
Then the PS5 tripped on the rug and spilled the chili on the rug. A big stain on the floor that can't be cleaned up.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Actually, Series X and S have barely sold 30M consoles. If there's 43 million people actually playing on PS4 every month...that's a huge difference right there.

PS4 is a jurgonnaut and when you think about it, it is by far the console with the biggest lifetime in history. Imagine a console releasing in 2013 and still getting this many games 12 years later

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I know that's why I said over 43 million & pointed out that PS5 just recently overtook PS4 active user-base .

True, you did say that.

 

[onQ123]

From the looks of things PS4 will still have a presence in the Xbox Next/ PS6 generation even if a mass migration to PS5 happens with GTAVI .

 

[onQ123]

Depends what kind of playerbase this is. People who care about performance, it'd be weird af if they're still on a system that can't handle anything even at a stable 30fps.

Looks at username carry on

 

[Unknown?]

Depends what kind of playerbase this is. People who care about performance, it'd be weird af if they're still on a system that can't handle anything even at a stable 30fps.

It's cinematic, you fool! 24fps for that movie-like experience!

 

[Woopah]

I see this being the way the industry operates from now on. Expect the Switch and PS5 to be in similar situaitons after being replaced.

 

[sono]

1 - PS4 is a good console overall
2 - Huge player base
3 - Consoles are getting fucking expensive
4 - Playstation 4 games are getting a fucking discount on anywhere, at least the physical media
5 - Dualshock still is a great joystick you can get for both PC and PS4 and PS5, is not as expensive as Dualsense

You missed
6. The og ps5 is the size of a truck

 

[Ar¢tos]

Which makes no sense because the system was already outdated by 2015.

I would still be rocking my ps4 if it hadn't died last year!
My nephew still plays on his, I assume other people never bothered to upgrade since most games are still crossgen.

 

[mckmas8808]

It's mind-blowing when you think of it.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Looks at username carry on

god dammit i keep forgetting myself that i am not supposed to be bitching about 30fps.

 

[EverydayBeast]

I checked out ps4 version of black ops 6 it's allegedly bad but truthfully it doesn't play much different than current gen.

 

[ReasonBeing]

Not surprising considering that the majority of the most played games are still available on PS4, and the PS4 was a resounding success (edit: point being that there are a shit ton of PS4's in homes across the world.)

 

[MicTyson]

It's crazy to think if you still are playing on a PS4 12 yesrs later, you have virtually missed nothing at this point not having a PS5 or a Series.

 

[Bonfires Down]

They should upgrade even if just for the loading times.

 

[jm89]

It's crazy to think if you still are playing on a PS4 12 yesrs later, you have virtually missed nothing at this point not having a PS5 or a Series.

Death stranding 2
Astro bot
Baldurs gate 3
Expedition 33
Split ficiton
Hell divers 2
Spiderman 2
Black myth wukong
Kingdom come deliverance 2
Returnal
Ratchet and clank rift apart

 

[Fbh]

Which is why the cross gen period next gen will be even longer.
Between rising costs, diminishing returns in visuals and live service games benefiting from having a large active userbase (thus not being in a rush to drop support on last gen), a lot of people are still perfectly happy on last gen.

 

[Trunx81]

Seriously, it's just great.
I have airplanes flying over my house (I live close to the airport) that are quieter.
But I still love the PS4.

 

[Karim]

Which makes no sense because the system was already outdated by 2015.

This post even less

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

This post even less

How so? If the performance of everything running on the system is extremely low, why would you waste your time on it?

 

[daclynk]

12yrs of PS4 Wow.
talk about WE BELIEVE IN GENERATIONS.

 

[OuterLimits]

I'm still one of those with PS4 pro hooked up and no PS5 yet. Hell, I still keep my PS3 hooked up to a downstairs TV. Granted, I use PC more than consoles lately. My next purchase will be the Switch 2, and I may just wait until PS6 launches.

 

[Karim]

How so? If the performance of everything running on the system is extremely low, why would you waste your time on it?

lol are you even serious. We are talking of console hardware not pc gpu.

 

[March Climber]

How so? If the performance of everything running on the system is extremely low, why would you waste your time on it?

Casual console base has never cared about this. A lot of them still don't know what the term 'framerate' even means. They call a higher framerate 'smooth' and a lower framerate 'lag'.

And they prefer cheap.

 

[SuperC]

I sold my PS4 in 2020 and never looked back, Very loud console with a shitty controller

 

[tanners]

Same year with PS4:
Obama start up second phase of POTUS
iPhone 5s released
Microsoft buy out Nokia's mobile division
GTA5 released
Imagine Dragon was on top of cereer

 

[Connxtion]

My daughter still uses her PS4 for Netflix etc… (why I don't know as it's built into her tv ) so she will be one of those active users. (She early uses it for games)

 

[drganon]

It's crazy to think if you still are playing on a PS4 12 yesrs later, you have virtually missed nothing at this point not having a PS5 or a Series.

Its crazy you're still here, alt.

 

[The_Mike]

PS4 was the last great console. PS4 PRO was the last loudest console.
Seriously PS4 did everything right.
Then the PS5 tripped on the rug and spilled the chili on the rug. A big stain on the floor that can't be cleaned up.

I'd say the last greatest generation was x360/PS3. There were so many unique console games and developers still dated to try new experimental releases.

PS4 and XO felt more like mini PCs in regards of gaming. And the current generation even moreso

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Which makes no sense because the system was already outdated by 2015.

I encourage you to read the steam hardware survey to find out just what kind of potatoe the average gamer has.

 

[Fluffytheterrible]

Bro Tales of Graces F was released on PS4 Disc in Europe what did you expect? People won't let go of PS4, and neither will publishers.

 

[Skifi28]

I know a few people that are still happy with their PS4. One of them just upgraded to a PS5 last month.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

So, with Switch 1 still outselling Xbox Series as well, does that mean that instead of being 4th, Series is in 5th place out of 3 competitors 4.5 years into this gen?

 

[BlackTron]

I encourage you to read the steam hardware survey to find out just what kind of potatoe the average gamer has.

What? Hard evidence that would impact my ability to hijack a console sales thread to discuss framerates? Never!

 

[PlayStaytion]

 

[CokeDiet]

Actually, Series X and S have barely sold 30M consoles. If there's 43 million people actually playing on PS4 every month...that's a huge difference right there.

PS4 is a jurgonnaut and when you think about it, it is by far the console with the biggest lifetime in history. Imagine a console releasing in 2013 and still getting this many games 12 years later

A jurgonnaut?!

 

[Ar¢tos]

Death stranding 2
Astro bot
Baldurs gate 3
Expedition 33
Split ficiton
Hell divers 2
Spiderman 2
Black myth wukong
Kingdom come deliverance 2
Returnal
Ratchet and clank rift apart

Why is Spider-Meh 2 in that list?

 

[CLW]

Good thing EVERYTHING including ps4 is XBox