I really didn't like any of the LOTR films, is there any indication the material here will be superior? From what it sounds like it just seems like an after the fact idea.
After the fact idea? Its based on a book that was written before LotR.
Anyway, it seems to be more the adventure side - more like Fellowship. I'm not reading a thing as I want to go in fresh.
Well that is the point, I'm aware it was written prior. If they wanted to do things in order why not have just included it as the original arc to the films?
It just screams "There's gotta be aBatmanHobbit".
Because they are completely different stories with totally different narratives?
That's good to know, but not really a reason for skipping order in the chronology.
The chronology isn't important because they are two different narratives with different themes and some overlap.
Why does it matter so much?
I'm not saying it does matter.
That's good to know, but not really a reason for skipping order in the chronology.
Hi everyone! This year is the tenth anniversary of the release of The Fellowship of the Ring, and we wanted to give the fans a Christmas treat ahead of the release of the two Hobbit movies in Dec 2012 and 2013. Stay tuned for more. Cheers!
The next production diary and maybe some promotional shots of the Elves in a similar vein to the dwarve shots.From Peter Jackson's fan-page on facebook (3 hours ago):
I'm assuming he's referring to the trailer, I can't imagine what else they would need to show at the moment
what are the odds that this movie turns small 2-3 page "events" into 20 minute fight scenes and ignores the fact that all of the middle earth books are about traveling just like the last 3 movies?
From Peter Jackson's fan-page on facebook (3 hours ago):
I'm assuming he's referring to the trailer, I can't imagine what else they would need to show at the moment
Oh absolutely. Though if you remember the Appendices to the LOTR extended edition, initially Jackson pitched LOTR to be just two movies. It was an exec that greenlit three movies and we are much the better for that decision.
On this case, I hope it was Jackson who wanted the two movies. The writers deeply respect the source material and I suspect that they didn't feel that they could tell the story well enough in one movie.
In most other cases I'm against splitting books into two films (Deathly Hallows and The Hobbit are okay to me, even though I think DH pt 2 was cack).
I'll be interested to see the kind of support distributors give 48fps. It's not at all as marketable as 3D films to studios, but filmmakers will start to want it. I just can't imagine The Hobbit 48fps experience being a smooth, widely available release. I'm really interested to see one film at 48fps, just to settle my feelings on it. I think for 3D films it could be fantastic, but I don't think I'm going to care for it otherwise.
Am I alone in thinking that Fellowship was the only "great" LOTR movie? Something about the last 2 did absolutely nothing for me.
I am not sure if I am excited for this or not.
I know many people who haven't read the books ended up underwhelmed.. fine.
But are there any who have read the books who are disappointed in any way?
I know many people who haven't read the books ended up underwhelmed.. fine.
But are there any who have read the books who are disappointed in any way?
Am I alone in thinking that Fellowship was the only "great" LOTR movie? Something about the last 2 did absolutely nothing for me.
Edmond Dantès;33658457 said:She wanted something much lighter and more in the vein of The Neverending Story or Willow
That's good to know, but not really a reason for skipping order in the chronology.
Edmond Dantès;33658457 said:One of my closest friends, who is quite the Tolkien purist.
She is pretty vocal about her dislike of the trilogy, but it's not the omissions and alterations to the narrative that she dislikes. She envisaged something different in terms of the tone and atmosphere exhibited in the trilogy, She wanted something much lighter and more in the vein of The Neverending Story or Willow, rather than the more gritty, darker version that we eventually received. Her reaction to the trailer today; they've done it again!
It's always fun discussing (arguing) the trilogy and Tolkien in general with her.
I know many people who haven't read the books ended up underwhelmed.. fine.
But are there any who have read the books who are disappointed in any way?
I'm just delighted that is at least one song in it. The near total omission of song and poetry from the Lord of the Rings adaption is something that still bothers me. Hopefully this is an indication that The Hobbit will be different.
It's funny. I read The Hobbit aloud to my younger brother when we were kids. Sang all the songs and everything.
My version sounded a lot like this one. I suppose the rhythm and lyrics lend themselves to a slow, dirge-like tune. Just hearing it made me smile.
I'm just delighted that is at least one song in it. The near total omission of song and poetry from the Lord of the Rings adaption is something that still bothers me. Hopefully this is an indication that The Hobbit will be different.
I'm just delighted that is at least one song in it. The near total omission of song and poetry from the Lord of the Rings adaption is something that still bothers me. Hopefully this is an indication that The Hobbit will be different.
I thought they had the right balance of singing and poetry, but then again, I never read the books.
But from the top of my head (extended editions..)
FotR:
- Gandalf singing as he comes into Bag End.
- Aragorn singing in the middle of the forest. The 'she died' scene.
RotK:
- Aragorn's oath song once he is crowned.
I'm sure there are more, but I can't remember them for the life of me.
My songs were much more like chants. I pictured men with mugs raised high, drunk and dancing. Elves I pictured the same, only drunk on life.
The dirge-feeling is something more appropriate and I prefer.
The songs never did it for me while reading them. I am tone-deaf and just not musically inclined in any way and just couldn't get it. Hearing the dwarf song just tells me how much I missed out in my vision of the Hobbit as I read it. I've seriously listened to that song like 30 times today.
Just saw this. It's basically a Skyrim trailer with that song over it.
Where's Smaug?
Where's Smaug?
Edmond Dantès;33659466 said:Clear view of one of the trolls.
Very different from the cave troll in Fellowship and the trolls grinding away at the Black Gate in Return of the King.