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[Verger]

I wish she had.

The reasons are, well, yeah her looks, but not just in terms of prettiness, she also gave off a sort of "innocence" vibe about her. I also felt that she and Bale did manage to have good chemistry on screen.

Maggie Gyllenhaal on the other hand definitely felt liker a more "seasoned" character, and I dunno if I can explain it well, but to me she lacked that "spark" that Holmes had on screen. I also didn't really buy the chemistry she had with either Bale or Eckheart. Contrary to some of the more vociferous comments out there I don't think she was that much less pretty than Katie overall despite how many thought so. But she did look "older".

By the way, why did Katie not return to Batman? I kept hearing rumors it was because of Tom Cruise and Scientology, any of that true?

 

[Dead]

Honestly, neither of them put on all that great of a performance. It was just a shit role to begin with.

 

[ezekial45]

No, Maggie Gyllenhaal was the better actress.

 

[Discotheque]

katie holmes was terrible in batman begins. gylenhaal was an upgrade performance-wise tbh.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Wouldn't make a difference to me either way. That character just makes me go "eh".

 

[jtb]

Neither of them brought much to the table or were liabilities.

 

[MMarston]

Would've been better if Maggie was already in BB to be honest.

 

[Betty]

Yes it would have been better, although Maggie is a better actress.

By the way, why did Katie not return to Batman? I kept hearing rumors it was because of Tom Cruise and Scientology, any of that true?

She wanted to appear in another film called Mad Money to work with people she admired.

 

[Haloid1177]

Wish the character wasn't in either film.

 

[shem935]

2nd one was better.

^^Also kind of that

 

[Revolutionary]

It should have been Gylenhaal from the beginning.

 

[Jigorath]

Katie Holmes can't act. Gyllenhaal is far more talented.

 

[family_guy]

No, Maggie Gyllenhaal was the better actress.

Yet I don't remember her contributing anything to the Dark Knight other than dying.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

No, Maggie Gyllenhaal was the better actress.

In The Dark Knight, none of that shone through. Hell, the character was even weaker that time around.

 

[Acorn]

Maggie>>>>>>>Holmes

But the role was largely forgettable either way tbh.

 

[Escape Goat]

It wouldnt have changed anything.

 

[Travo]

I read somewhere that Holmes couldn't do TDK because she was filming Mad Money, wtf...lol.

 

[kurahador]

I would prefers it for continuity sake. It would also made her

Spoiler

demise

alot more shocking and sad.

They should've at least try finding someone who looks like her as replacement at least.

 

[Verger]

Funny how things change. I could have sworn that when and immediately after the movie came out nobody like Gyllenhall as Rachel. I certainly remember a hell of a lot more negativity about her.

 

[DopeyFish]

Yes. Never break continuity.

 

[Spieler Eins]

Dunno who I prefer, probably the one from TDK, but the lack of consistency is always a bummer.

 

[Acorn]

Funny how things change. I could have sworn that when and immediately after the movie came out nobody like Gyllenhall as Rachel. I certainly remember a hell of a lot more negativity about her.

Eh people get pissed at character switcharoos generally.

 

[Escape Goat]

I would prefers it for continuity sake. It would also made her

Spoiler

demise

alot more shocking and sad.

They should've at least try finding someone who looks like her as replacement at least.

Her birth? I can only imagine what would be shocking and sad!

 

[Pau]

I don't think that could have saved the character.

Maybe they could have made Rachel into Two-Face. (But that would have meant missing out on Eckhart's performance.)

 

[shem935]

It was just weird to see the switch in general. Would have preferred seeing a return of Holmes just for the fact that it wouldn't be as jarring watching the two back to back.

 

[Currygan]

one is a GREAT actress, the other is a nameless face. And Maggie's face is perfectly fine as it is, not even counting her strikingly good body she graced us with in THW

 

[flaxknuckles]

Eh people get pissed at character switcharoos generally.

yep. Still mad about this and Terrence Howard getting replaced in Iron Man 2. Also, I can't bring myself to watch Spartacus season two.

 

[triplestation]

i weirdly prefer it the way it turned out lmao

 

[Corpekata]

Continuity is overrated. Takes like 1 minute to adjust to.

 

[clemenx]

Would've been a largely irrelevant difference.

 

[Demmi]

Gyllenhaal was an improvement, but not enough of one to justify the break in continuity.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Would have preferred Katie. Magpie is a better actress, but not so in TDK. All she did was turn Rachel into this weirdly smarmy character.

Honesty would have preferred the continuity so that I felt something when Rachel was turned into confetti.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I agree entirely with the op and I still get horrors from that Maggie pic someone posted before. Posting it should be a bannable offense.

 

[Dysun]

Yes, it was a jarring change and it would have had more impact on me if Holmes was still in the role

 

[Fury451]

Would've been better if Maggie was already in BB to be honest.

Exactly.

But I almost view them as two different characters, so the events of the film had little impact, because of the casting incongruence, so yes, her staying on would've been better.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

one is a GREAT actress, the other is a nameless face. And Maggie's face is perfectly fine as it is, not even counting her strikingly good body she graced us with in THW

People keep saying this, as if that matters in this instance, and to apparently say she actually gave a good performance in The Dark Knight, or that the character didn't become even more of a throwaway the second time. She in no way elevated that character.

So, yeah, I would say continuity would've absolutely been preferable to that.

 

[shira]

By the way, why did Katie not return to Batman? I kept hearing rumors it was because of Tom Cruise and Scientology, any of that true?

She wanted that mad money

 

[LakeEarth]

Also, the people involved with Batman Begins were pissed that every interview with Katie Holmes during the BB press tour was 100% about Tom Cruise. War of the Worlds came out around the same time, so her interviews were doing more for BB's direct competition.

 

[Pikelet]

I don't mind them changing the actress, though I'm not a fan of bland characters that seem to exist primarily to motivate the main character via dying or being in peril.

 

[3N16MA]

Gyllenhaal is the better actress but none of that matters because the role did not require her to use much of her talent. It was perfect for Holmes and TDK would have been better if she stayed.

 

[Quick]

The recast didn't really bother me when I was watching it, and I thought Maggie Gyllenhaal did a great job on a role that unfortunately didn't shine much in the series. For continuity's sake, sticking Katie Holmes would've been better, but ultimately Maggie Gyllenhaal should've just been Rachel from the start.

Maybe Nolan would've written the role better knowing Maggie's resume and her abilities. No offense to Katie Holmes, of course.

 

[talisayNon]

No, Maggie Gyllenhaal was the better actress.

.

 

[Currygan]

People keep saying this, as if that matters in this instance, and to apparently say she actually gave a good performance in The Dark Knight, or that the character didn't become even less of a throwaway the second time. She in no way elevated that character.

So, yeah, I would say continuity would've absolutely been preferable to that.

it's not her fault her character was a throwaway, but she did give a fine performance imho, much better than Holmes did

 

[Acorn]

She wanted that mad money

I hope her agent is fired.

 

[hugocésar]

I don't think either of them are especially good actresses. Although, Maggie Gyllenhaal has gotten better. Her brother as well...I smell a conspiracy.

 

[wmlk]

Both of them can be filled by other actresses for all I care. Rachel serves a very specific and uninteresting purpose in TDK.

 

[3N16MA]

I don't think either of them are especially good actresses. Although, Maggie Gyllenhaal has gotten better. Her brother as well...I smell a conspiracy.

They're the same person.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I hope her agent is fired.

It doesn't really matter, it's not like The Dark Knight did anything for Maggie's career, nor Batman Begins for Katie. I can understand going with something she may have felt was more interesting(or fun) for her to do as an actress, but I can't imagine she gets many interesting opportunities, so settling for that shit it is.

 

[outunderthestars]

She wanted to appear in another film called Mad Money to work with people she admired.

Yea,who would pass up a chance to act with Queen Latifah?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

it's not her fault her character was a throwaway, but she did give a fine performance imho, much better than Holmes did

I'm not seeing it.