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PuppetMaster said:
Wii was much lower last I checked. Especially if you consider that Wii Play should not count toward attach ratio.
Wii has a MUCH better attach ratio than PS3 iirc. 360's is the best though I believe.
 
bmf said:
His entire psyche rests on Sony winning the console wars. He'll either continue to claim that Sony won after they've exited the console business, or he will have such a fantastic mental break and ensuing meltdown upon that realization that we'll be quoting it for years and both Mama Robotnik and Junkwaffle will produce art commemorating it.

Does he still maintain that PS3 will pass Wii? Last I saw him on Bonus Round on their last episode of 2008 he was saying that the Wii has already won, but that the battle is between the PS3 and 360. I think everyone agrees that. My memory may be a little hazy today, but AFAIK he was saying that the Wii has already won.
If he wasn't, then yes, he's on crack.
 
Hellraizer said:
You can spin this endlessly though. What if PS3 didn't include Blu-Ray and didn't cost 599, while still selling at a loss? IMO, the market would look completely different now, and Ken probably would have kept his job.

They would have also never won the format war. I think Sony placed a high priority on that. How well it's working for them is up in the air though.
 
If anything, the proper analogue for the Ferrari analogy in gaming are those ridiculous $7000 voodoopc/falcon tricked out desktop rigs. Guaranteed they're making a profit on every one of those boxes.
 
Sony have a shit load of places where they can make cuts. To say it is SCE is a conclusion only a complete idiot would jump to


Sony Assurance Inc.
Sony Bank Inc.
Sony Broadband Solutions Corporation
Sony Broadcast Media Co., Ltd
Sony Chemical & Information Device Corporation
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Sony Computer Science Laboratories, Inc.,
Sony Digital Network Applications Inc.
Sony Disc & Digital Solutions Inc.
Sony EMCS Corporation.
Sony Energy Device Corporation.
Sony Engineering Corporation
Sony Enterprise Co., Ltd.
Sony Facility Management Corporation
Sony Finance International, Inc.
Sony Financial Holdings, Inc.
Sony Global Solutions Inc.
Sony Human Capital Corporation.
Sony Institute of Higher Education Shohoku College
Sony Life Insurance Co., Ltd.
Sony LSI Design Inc.
Sony Manufacturing Systems Corporation
Sony Marketing (Japan) Inc.
Sony Music Communications Inc.
Sony Music Distribution (Japan) Inc.
Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.
Sony Music Manufacturing Inc.
Sony Optiarc Inc.
Sony PCL Inc.
Sony Semiconductor Kyushu Corporation
Sony Shiroishi Semicondustor Inc.
Sony Style (Japan) Inc.
Sony Supply Chain Solutions, Inc.
Sony/Taiyo Corporation
bitWallet, Inc.
FeliCa Networks, Inc
Frontage Inc.
Kyoshin Technosonic Co., Ltd.
REASON Corporation
So-net Entertainment Corporation
So-net M3, Inc.
ST Liquid Crystal Display Corp.
ST Mobile Display Corporation
Star Channel, Inc.
 
andycapps said:
Does he still maintain that PS3 will pass Wii? Last I saw him on Bonus Round on their last episode of 2008 he was saying that the Wii has already won, but that the battle is between the PS3 and 360. I think everyone agrees that. My memory may be a little hazy today, but AFAIK he was saying that the Wii has already won.
If he wasn't, then yes, he's on crack.
Wait. Are we talking about Pachter or Hoffman?
 
Rapping Granny said:
Panasonic Playstation 4


That sounds good actually.

Panaphonics Playstation 4 sounds better.

They would have also never won the format war. I think Sony placed a high priority on that. How well it's working for them is up in the air though.
Maybe they would have had more money thanks to a cheap PS3 to burn for Blu-Ray? While still maintaining a strong position in the gaming industry, making a profit, and not losing a bunch of 3rd party exclusives which were crucial for the PS1 and PS2 winning and dominating everyone else. (lot's of speculation, I know, but this is also one possible scenario if Sony didn't sacrifice one of his biggest brands for a new hd format)
 
Hellraizer said:
Panaphonics Playstation 4 sounds better.
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PuppetMaster said:
Wii was much lower last I checked. Especially if you consider that Wii Play should not count toward attach ratio.

where did you check? because last I know is that the Wii had 5.5 games sold per console and the PS3 5.3. That's until September 2008; I don't know if another study is done, but the fact is that the Wii sells a lot more software than the PS3, and their attach rates are really close.

And I don't know why Wii Play shouldn't count. It is a game and people buy it, just like every other game; people like it, because Microsoft has done similar promotions that haven't sold so well.
 
jman2050 said:
So we've gone full circle and are finally pulling the PS3-Cars analogies again? I haven't seen those since launch :lol

Stage 1: Denial
Stage 2: Car analogies
Stage 3: Epic fucking meltdowns
 
...rapid shift in its business model to one driven by earnings in the content business...

Last I checked, gaming was a content business. Sony have always had their own hardware division to back them up on it, but it's been about selling you the content for two generations now.
 
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft


:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft
cry moar
 
lowlylowlycook said:
No Microsoft Playstation X.

Dont let Microsoft design hardware ever again. Good thing they didnt get Logitech. On a second thought, it would probably have killed them. All those recalls.
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft
On the other hand the death of the Dreamcast is still delivering hilarious posts like this so it's not all bad.
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft
Oh snap. It's fuckin' payback time, bitchez!
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft

u mad?
 
Guy Legend said:
*facepalm* at the people in the doom and gloom line of thinking for PS3. Lots of laughably bad posts in this thread.


Well you know they are expert financial analysts. sarcasm.
 
Hellraizer said:
Oh snap. It's fuckin' payback time, bitchez!

We already had a cryout like that from Ndroids when Wii overtook the PS3. "Oh you sons of bitches. You abused us! YOU RAPED US Sony fans! Now you will know how it feels!" Something along those lines. :lol
 
mittelos said:
AstroLad wins, yet again. :D

What I want to know is if he's a last-gen Nintendo fan criticizing people for narrowminded brand loyalty or if he's a Dreamcast fan hailing the death of hardcore gaming.
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft

*applause* :lol
 
badcrumble said:
What I want to know is if he's a last-gen Nintendo fan criticizing people for narrowminded brand loyalty or if he's a Dreamcast fan hailing the death of hardcore gaming.
Neither. He's the KING, baby.
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft
In this sense, '09 may in fact be the year of the Dreamcast.
 
badcrumble said:
What I want to know is if he's a last-gen Nintendo fan criticizing people for narrowminded brand loyalty or if he's a Dreamcast fan hailing the death of hardcore gaming.

I think it's a joke, I mean, it has to be, right? Intentional joke or not, I laughed very hard here at work. Sounds like something I'd hear walking into Gamestop and hearing some nerd rant about "X game" or "X console". :lol
 
Forsete said:
We already had a cryout like that from Ndroids when Wii overtook the PS3. "Oh you sons of bitches. You abused us! YOU RAPED US Sony fans! Now you will know how it feels!" Something along those lines. :lol

Hell there is always UK:Resistance if that sort of thing floats your boat.
 
PuppetMaster said:
Sony have a shit load of places where they can make cuts. To say it is SCE is a conclusion only a complete idiot would jump to


Sony Assurance Inc.
Sony Bank Inc.
Sony Broadband Solutions Corporation
Sony Broadcast Media Co., Ltd
Sony Chemical & Information Device Corporation
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Sony Computer Science Laboratories, Inc.,
Sony Digital Network Applications Inc.
Sony Disc & Digital Solutions Inc.
Sony EMCS Corporation.
Sony Energy Device Corporation.
Sony Engineering Corporation
Sony Enterprise Co., Ltd.
Sony Facility Management Corporation
Sony Finance International, Inc.
Sony Financial Holdings, Inc.
Sony Global Solutions Inc.
Sony Human Capital Corporation.
Sony Institute of Higher Education Shohoku College
Sony Life Insurance Co., Ltd.
Sony LSI Design Inc.
Sony Manufacturing Systems Corporation
Sony Marketing (Japan) Inc.
Sony Music Communications Inc.
Sony Music Distribution (Japan) Inc.
Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.
Sony Music Manufacturing Inc.
Sony Optiarc Inc.
Sony PCL Inc.
Sony Semiconductor Kyushu Corporation
Sony Shiroishi Semicondustor Inc.
Sony Style (Japan) Inc.
Sony Supply Chain Solutions, Inc.
Sony/Taiyo Corporation
bitWallet, Inc.
FeliCa Networks, Inc
Frontage Inc.
Kyoshin Technosonic Co., Ltd.
REASON Corporation
So-net Entertainment Corporation
So-net M3, Inc.
ST Liquid Crystal Display Corp.
ST Mobile Display Corporation
Star Channel, Inc.

So it would make sense if they face the shame of stepping down from being a major company in Japan, and start the climb back up the hill?

I would only hope they cut the things that are not the benefit for consumers. Sony doesn't need to be a company developing things others are already doing.
 
AstroLad said:
I for one couldn't care less if Sony shuddered their gaming division. This is the same company who's fans pathetically laughed at the all-too-soon demise of the Dreamcast, as well as ushering in the Dreamcast's downfall with their narrowminded brand loyalty. These are the same people who basically laughed me out of a room when I said that the Wii (then named as The Revolution) would completely DOMINATE Sony in the next gen.

And I'm supposed to shed a tear for them after what I've been through? pfffffft

I'm with ya!

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