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In this time of Covid-19, is it safe to pick up Chick-fil-A?
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JordanN
Banned
A Tim Hortons employee was confirmed infected in my city a few days ago.
I still buy food, but it's still a risk going out there. On a positive note, when the infections were confirmed, there was a lighting fast reaction. Immediately closed down and disinfected.
Or you can be like this crazy nibba and disinfect the food yourself.
I still buy food, but it's still a risk going out there. On a positive note, when the infections were confirmed, there was a lighting fast reaction. Immediately closed down and disinfected.
Or you can be like this crazy nibba and disinfect the food yourself.
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JareBear: Remastered
Banned
When you order, ask them specifically to not cough on your food.
triplestation
Member
i've been wanting to make nachos for days and the supermarket is 1 block away
i'm staying the fuck inside until im bone dry
i'm staying the fuck inside until im bone dry
JordanN
Banned
The virus has a long lifespan. It can contaminate a surface for up to 3 days.
Also, some people may not even know they're infected but still carry the virus.
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SurprisedPikachu
Member
Same here. Don't intentionally go out of your way to get infected, stay away from sick people, wash your hands (or just y'know follow basic hygiene rules) and you'll be fine. I've had CFA, McD, and BK in the past few weeks and I'm fine. Can't say the same for other areas especially cities. But you don't have to live in complete isolation, that's just utter insanity. Just use some fucking common sense people.
daveonezero
Banned
my household has been limiting our eating out. Although we have picked up food from 3 or 4 places the last month. Including Chick Oil A food truck yesterday.
I think its all about personal risk. If the powers that be understood what was going on they would lock down even more businesses because that's all they can do. Point of Sale equipment s probably spreading the virus. Not personal contact. (I disinfect each keypad)
As individuals we have a lot more options to stop or mitigate risk.
I think its all about personal risk. If the powers that be understood what was going on they would lock down even more businesses because that's all they can do. Point of Sale equipment s probably spreading the virus. Not personal contact. (I disinfect each keypad)
As individuals we have a lot more options to stop or mitigate risk.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It's not safer than staying locked in your house and cooking for yourself, but I would imagine it is a lot safer than going to the grocery store.
Just take the number of cases in your region - multiply by say 10 for untested but positive. Now divide that number by the number of people in your region. Multiple that figure by say 5 for the number of people working at chick.
And that is your approximate risk every time you go get take-out, if you are comfortable with that risk then go get that chicken.
Just take the number of cases in your region - multiply by say 10 for untested but positive. Now divide that number by the number of people in your region. Multiple that figure by say 5 for the number of people working at chick.
And that is your approximate risk every time you go get take-out, if you are comfortable with that risk then go get that chicken.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
$5 at Texas Roadhouse
I don't have mom and pop shops around me. The franchisee of this Texas Roadhouse is awesome.
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triplestation
Member
not gonna lie though i could use some fast food just for a change
getting tired of just eating this all the time:
getting tired of just eating this all the time:
GHG
Member
Me and the mrs ordered in our favourite Greek takeaway tonight, a decision made after a few glasses of champagne. I'd like to think it's highly unlikely that you'd catch it via food delivery but I guess I'll let you all know within the next 2 weeks.
We've got to be able to at the very least keep our favourite restaurants afloat during these tough times, if not whats the point? Imagine getting to the other side and there's nowhere to order a Pizza from anymore?
We've got to be able to at the very least keep our favourite restaurants afloat during these tough times, if not whats the point? Imagine getting to the other side and there's nowhere to order a Pizza from anymore?
bucyou
Member
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I’ve ordered twice from Texas Roadhouse now. They’ve packed so much extra food in my orders I got a few meals out of each one.
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SpartanN92
Banned
Chick Fil A is the lords chicken and is blessed with a hedge of protection.
belmarduk
Member
No. Chick-Fil-A is bad for you and they fund some nasty anti lgbt shit.
Liljagare
Member
If it is like SARS, it has a real problem surviving 40+ celsius. So the food is probarly safe, the main issue would be the packaging?
If you though, take it in a drive through, go home, and like we like to do, nuke it in the micro for 30 secs to get it nice and hot again, you'd be ok. Microwaves destroy rNA viruses sufaces.
Though, ymmw:
From equation (10), the theoretical absorption cross-section of the virus at the resonant frequency is:
By setting of the PBS at 8.2 GHz as 67.1325, = can be obtained by comparing equation (13) and equation (14).
So far, all parameters for estimating electric field threshold in equation (12) are obtained. By substituting threshold Pstress = 0.141 MPa, = , m* = 14.5 MDa, Q = 1.95 and ω0 = 2π × 8.22 GHz into equation (12), threshold magnitude of electric field to fracture virus at different frequencies of microwave can be calculated.
Based on Fig. 3(c), the field intensity threshold for inactivating H3N2 virus ranges between 86.9–236.3 V/m, which corresponds to 82.3–564 W/m2, for microwaves between 6 and 12 GHz. Since the aperture size of our horn antenna was 9.8 cm × 7.1 cm. The required threshold power input ranges from 0.57 W to 3.92 W for 6–12 GHz microwaves. We thus first applied 6.3 W (38 dBm) fixed microwave power, which is higher than all the threshold power input, into the horn antenna for the frequency dependency studies. After considering the transmission coefficient of our horn antenna, this experimental condition corresponded to 765 – 882 W/m2 average illuminated power density on the sample surface, corresponding to the field intensity inside the specimen of 260–296 V/m respectively. For 8–8.4 GHz microwave at the resonant frequency, the average illuminated power density was about 810 W/m2, equivalent to 273 V/m effective field intensity inside the sample. We thus expect to observe the inactivation effect throughout the studied spectral range. As been summarized in Fig. 4(b), a frequency dependent inactivation ratio can be observed in our experiments, with a peak located at the resonant frequency of the dipolar mode while higher than 50% inactivation ratio can be observed throughout the studied frequency range. At 8.4 GHz, the measured titer count was zero, indicating 100% inactivation ratio, which means that the remaining active viral concentration was smaller than the system sensitivity of 10 pfu/mL. This result indicates at least a three-order of magnitudes attenuation on the virus titer, when the microwave frequency was tuned to the dipolar mode resonant frequency with the electric field intensity 3 times higher than the threshold. The illuminated average power density was roughly 6.7 times higher than the IEEE safety standard for the 8–8.4 GHz cases. It is important to notice that the power density is proportional to the square of the field intensity.
Virus Inactivation Experiments – Power density dependency
To further investigate the efficiency of this SRET effect from microwave to virus and the threshold effect, we further measured the inactivation ratio of H3N2 virus with different power densities at the resonant frequency ~8 GHz of the confined acoustic dipolar mode. Our theoretical model predicted an inactivation threshold field intensity of 86.9 V/m, corresponding to an average microwave power density of 82.3 W/m2 in specimen. Since we assume all power can transmit from air to specimen, power density in air is also 82.3 W/m2, which is 1.48 times lower than the IEEE safety standard. Figure 5 (b) summarized the measured inactivation ratio for 4 different average microwave power densities of 820, 320, 82 and 51 W/m2 in air, corresponding to an effective field intensity inside samples of 274, 171, 87 and 68 V/m, respectively. It is noted that the experiment with 82 W/m2 in air was performed in a different experimental setup, as shown in Fig. 5(a). A significant threshold effect can be observed when the effective field intensity inside samples started to be on the order of or exceed the estimated threshold. A 38% inactivation ratio can be observed with a field intensity of 87 V/m, while the inactivation ratio dropped drastically to only negligible 6% with a slightly lower 68 V/m field intensity. With a 3 times higher field intensity than the threshold, the inactivation ratio saturated at a 100% value.
A previous study has shown that to inactivate human H3N2 viruses through thermal heating, the temperature need to be higher than 55 °C. Compared with the 82 W/m2 radiated microwave power density (0.63 W required power input) in our resonant inactivation case, the current microwave thermal heating method to inactivate virus usually requires more than 100 W microwave power at 2.45 GHz27,28, which is way beyond the safety standard, in order to raise the sample temperature to be higher than 60 °C for protein denature. It is known that the microwave thermal heating has a weak frequency dependency between 6–12 GHz and this is not the case for our frequency dependent result as shown in Fig. 4(b). To confirm that our observation is not due to the microwave thermal heating effect, we had monitored the sample temperature change during the microwave illumination experiments with a radiated power density of 486 W/m2 at a frequency of 6 GHz by using an infrared thermal imaging camera with a temperature accuracy of 0.05 °C (CHCT, P384-20). The temperature rise after 15 minutes radiation was 7 °C, from 27.5 °C up to 34.5 °C. We thus exclude the possible contribution of microwave thermal heating effect to inactivation H3N2 viruses under our experimental condition.
In summary, we investigated the structure resonance energy transfer from microwave to CAVs of H3N2 virus in water-based solution. The efficiency of such energy transfer was investigated through exploring the virus inactivation ratio. Based on the proposed damped mass-spring model and the experimentally measured microwave absorption cross-section of a single virus, threshold magnitude of electric field to fracture viruses at different illuminated frequencies can be estimated. After the illumination by the microwave, the plaque assay experiment indicated that the inactivation ratio reaches its maximum at the resonant frequency of the dipolar resonance. The real-time RT-PCR experiment double confirmed that the main inactivation mechanism was through physically fracturing viruses without degrading viral RNA genome. This work not only theoretically and experimentally demonstrates a new energy transfer mechanism between EM waves and viruses, but also indicates an efficient SRET effect. Our results have important implications for the interaction between microwaves and biological tissues, which is a highly concerned public issue. With an observed inactivation threshold with a microwave power density within the IEEE safety standard, the demonstrated SRET mechanism also provides a pathway toward establishing a new epidemic prevention strategy in open public for airborne viruses.
If you though, take it in a drive through, go home, and like we like to do, nuke it in the micro for 30 secs to get it nice and hot again, you'd be ok. Microwaves destroy rNA viruses sufaces.
Though, ymmw:
From equation (10), the theoretical absorption cross-section of the virus at the resonant frequency is:
By setting of the PBS at 8.2 GHz as 67.1325, = can be obtained by comparing equation (13) and equation (14).
So far, all parameters for estimating electric field threshold in equation (12) are obtained. By substituting threshold Pstress = 0.141 MPa, = , m* = 14.5 MDa, Q = 1.95 and ω0 = 2π × 8.22 GHz into equation (12), threshold magnitude of electric field to fracture virus at different frequencies of microwave can be calculated.
Based on Fig. 3(c), the field intensity threshold for inactivating H3N2 virus ranges between 86.9–236.3 V/m, which corresponds to 82.3–564 W/m2, for microwaves between 6 and 12 GHz. Since the aperture size of our horn antenna was 9.8 cm × 7.1 cm. The required threshold power input ranges from 0.57 W to 3.92 W for 6–12 GHz microwaves. We thus first applied 6.3 W (38 dBm) fixed microwave power, which is higher than all the threshold power input, into the horn antenna for the frequency dependency studies. After considering the transmission coefficient of our horn antenna, this experimental condition corresponded to 765 – 882 W/m2 average illuminated power density on the sample surface, corresponding to the field intensity inside the specimen of 260–296 V/m respectively. For 8–8.4 GHz microwave at the resonant frequency, the average illuminated power density was about 810 W/m2, equivalent to 273 V/m effective field intensity inside the sample. We thus expect to observe the inactivation effect throughout the studied spectral range. As been summarized in Fig. 4(b), a frequency dependent inactivation ratio can be observed in our experiments, with a peak located at the resonant frequency of the dipolar mode while higher than 50% inactivation ratio can be observed throughout the studied frequency range. At 8.4 GHz, the measured titer count was zero, indicating 100% inactivation ratio, which means that the remaining active viral concentration was smaller than the system sensitivity of 10 pfu/mL. This result indicates at least a three-order of magnitudes attenuation on the virus titer, when the microwave frequency was tuned to the dipolar mode resonant frequency with the electric field intensity 3 times higher than the threshold. The illuminated average power density was roughly 6.7 times higher than the IEEE safety standard for the 8–8.4 GHz cases. It is important to notice that the power density is proportional to the square of the field intensity.
Virus Inactivation Experiments – Power density dependency
To further investigate the efficiency of this SRET effect from microwave to virus and the threshold effect, we further measured the inactivation ratio of H3N2 virus with different power densities at the resonant frequency ~8 GHz of the confined acoustic dipolar mode. Our theoretical model predicted an inactivation threshold field intensity of 86.9 V/m, corresponding to an average microwave power density of 82.3 W/m2 in specimen. Since we assume all power can transmit from air to specimen, power density in air is also 82.3 W/m2, which is 1.48 times lower than the IEEE safety standard. Figure 5 (b) summarized the measured inactivation ratio for 4 different average microwave power densities of 820, 320, 82 and 51 W/m2 in air, corresponding to an effective field intensity inside samples of 274, 171, 87 and 68 V/m, respectively. It is noted that the experiment with 82 W/m2 in air was performed in a different experimental setup, as shown in Fig. 5(a). A significant threshold effect can be observed when the effective field intensity inside samples started to be on the order of or exceed the estimated threshold. A 38% inactivation ratio can be observed with a field intensity of 87 V/m, while the inactivation ratio dropped drastically to only negligible 6% with a slightly lower 68 V/m field intensity. With a 3 times higher field intensity than the threshold, the inactivation ratio saturated at a 100% value.
A previous study has shown that to inactivate human H3N2 viruses through thermal heating, the temperature need to be higher than 55 °C. Compared with the 82 W/m2 radiated microwave power density (0.63 W required power input) in our resonant inactivation case, the current microwave thermal heating method to inactivate virus usually requires more than 100 W microwave power at 2.45 GHz27,28, which is way beyond the safety standard, in order to raise the sample temperature to be higher than 60 °C for protein denature. It is known that the microwave thermal heating has a weak frequency dependency between 6–12 GHz and this is not the case for our frequency dependent result as shown in Fig. 4(b). To confirm that our observation is not due to the microwave thermal heating effect, we had monitored the sample temperature change during the microwave illumination experiments with a radiated power density of 486 W/m2 at a frequency of 6 GHz by using an infrared thermal imaging camera with a temperature accuracy of 0.05 °C (CHCT, P384-20). The temperature rise after 15 minutes radiation was 7 °C, from 27.5 °C up to 34.5 °C. We thus exclude the possible contribution of microwave thermal heating effect to inactivation H3N2 viruses under our experimental condition.
In summary, we investigated the structure resonance energy transfer from microwave to CAVs of H3N2 virus in water-based solution. The efficiency of such energy transfer was investigated through exploring the virus inactivation ratio. Based on the proposed damped mass-spring model and the experimentally measured microwave absorption cross-section of a single virus, threshold magnitude of electric field to fracture viruses at different illuminated frequencies can be estimated. After the illumination by the microwave, the plaque assay experiment indicated that the inactivation ratio reaches its maximum at the resonant frequency of the dipolar resonance. The real-time RT-PCR experiment double confirmed that the main inactivation mechanism was through physically fracturing viruses without degrading viral RNA genome. This work not only theoretically and experimentally demonstrates a new energy transfer mechanism between EM waves and viruses, but also indicates an efficient SRET effect. Our results have important implications for the interaction between microwaves and biological tissues, which is a highly concerned public issue. With an observed inactivation threshold with a microwave power density within the IEEE safety standard, the demonstrated SRET mechanism also provides a pathway toward establishing a new epidemic prevention strategy in open public for airborne viruses.
brap
Banned
dont be a fucking pussy.
Hulk_Smash
Banned
Tesseract
Banned
not gonna lie though i could use some fast food just for a change
getting tired of just eating this all the time:
Shizumapower
Member
Family has picked twice in the past couple of weeks. Doing fine. Drive thru is a crono-mile long.
Velius
Banned
I don't think I said anything to the contrary. And this in no way invalidates what I've said.
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
That's a sure way to get employees spitting on your food
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Maybe if you do Door Dash or drive through. With how packed my Chick Fil A usually is, I definitely wouldn't step foot in one. I'm actually curious how busy they are right now, people are afraid to eat out, but man people also love their fried chicken. I wonder what wins out.
I wouldn't risk it though. All it takes is one cough or something on or near your food.
I wouldn't risk it though. All it takes is one cough or something on or near your food.
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Stouffers
Banned
Season 2 of the Mandolorian looking good!
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
It's honestly not worth the pain in the ass. Once you leave your house, try to only touch things with a single hand so that you can keep from having to wipe down literally everything, including the inside of your car. Basically have a "clean" hand, and have one that you may as well pretend is covered in covid-19.
As soon as you get home, take the food out of the packaging (it's okay to touch it at this point) and put it in the oven at ~160 for 3 minutes. Anything that might be on the food will die, but at that temp/time it won't burn it. If anything it'll heat up your food a bit, maybe ruin the fries.
Discard the packaging immediately and wash your hands. Now you can eat. Hardly seems with it.
Most places have closed their indoor areas, Chick Fil-A included. He would only be able to do drive-thru or delivery.
As soon as you get home, take the food out of the packaging (it's okay to touch it at this point) and put it in the oven at ~160 for 3 minutes. Anything that might be on the food will die, but at that temp/time it won't burn it. If anything it'll heat up your food a bit, maybe ruin the fries.
Discard the packaging immediately and wash your hands. Now you can eat. Hardly seems with it.
Most places have closed their indoor areas, Chick Fil-A included. He would only be able to do drive-thru or delivery.
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Potato Chip PRO
Member
Me and my bro went to Micky D's with our Gas masks on through the
Drive-Thru with his beat up old ass Volkswagen Golf and played Clear Skies from Stalker. Once in a life time event and no I don't have an AK nor Vodka. It's hard to breath in those shits. Only for emergencies and bring some Germ-X with you to clean your hands when you touch stuff outside.
Drive-Thru with his beat up old ass Volkswagen Golf and played Clear Skies from Stalker. Once in a life time event and no I don't have an AK nor Vodka. It's hard to breath in those shits. Only for emergencies and bring some Germ-X with you to clean your hands when you touch stuff outside.
Shizumapower
Member
Agreed. I went to home depot today (super busy). I got composite wood for a new project to spiffy up the house.
In the immortal words of the beastie boys 'give me some wood and I'll build you a cabinet!'
Tesseract
Banned
oh fuck yeah what did you get from old mickey donald tron the clown world hamburger god
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
I wouldn't eat there after Easter Sunday for a few weeks
pennythoughts
Member
me and my bro split one of those $30 tray of chicken nuggies over 2 days.
still delicious.
still delicious.
