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[*Splinter]

Splinter, why did you say it was less believeable? why would ccs say it then? It doesn't help him.

It doesn't mesh with my assumptions of the role. Choosing someone's target I can understand, but forcing them to use the faction kill is surprising to me.

I guess the faction kill is (presumably) listed on the scum role pm as a thing they can do. Meh.

It also makes the role a lot more powerful, especially if he can force people to self target. Actually if he can force a self target he's an even bigger asset to town, but I cba to keep arguing for that. Noone reads it anyway.

Plus that part being hard to believe makes the whole thing more likely to be a lie.

Why did CCS say it? Because it's true and/or he thought it was believable.

 

[cabot]

It also makes the role a lot more powerful, especially if he can force people to self target. Actually if he can force a self target he's an even bigger asset to town, but I cba to keep arguing for that. Noone reads it anyway.

If this is the case, then I have to expect some form of counter to his role, which nullifys him if he's outed.

 

[cabot]

Thoughts on CCS getting close to being lynched. Turbos are not bad things, but Lone_Prodigy does have a point when half the players haven't met post count it may be a bit premature.

I've been thinking about some of those low posters. Like Ri'Orius, skyodin and the goddamn. What do they think about the neutral witch?

Sky's been around. I think bar some miracle, TheG will be replaced over the night phase. Jurys out on Ri.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

DAY 2 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

CCS (8)
Kyanrute 1050 1123
cabot 1091
batsnacks 1127 1356
Zippedpinhead 1159
Bronx-Man 1230
SkyOdin 1304
Flame_AC 1306
Ri'Orius 1329
Kawl_USC 1349
Zeusy 1352

SkyOdin (2)
Kawl_USC 1196 1349
Blargonaut 1261
Kalor 1291

cabot (1)
*Splinter 1119

*Splinter (1)
Blargonaut 1158 1261
batsnacks 1356

isaacnukem (0): cabot 988 1091, batsnacks 1008 1127

Bronx-Man (0): Flame_AC 1049 1306

No active vote for Day 2: CCS, isaacnukem, Kyanrute (has previously voted), Lone_Prodigy, OceanicAir, TheGoddamn, WaffleTaco

Day 2 Postcount: *Splinter 66, batsnacks 51, Blargonaut 16, Bronx-Man 10, cabot 97, CCS 38, Flame_AC 10, isaacnukem 11, Kalor 10, Kawl_USC 41, Kyanrute 44, Lone_Prodigy 8, OceanicAir 11, Ri'Orius 6, SkyOdin 12, TheGoddamn 0, WaffleTaco 5, Zeusy 6, Zippedpinhead 7


Day 2 ends:

Automated vote tally here

10 votes for majority

 

[Blargonaut]

You're supposed to give Neutrals a chance to prove themselves, nerds

We got 2 confirmed Townspeople out here, bets and Kawl; if CCS is really Neutral and we killed him Today, then you just killed their meat shield for scum

fools

 

[Kyanrute]

I'm on team murder CCS. Me thinks the phase shouldn't be killed until the final hours, if only to eliminate "bubububu you ended phase early so i had no time to post" -excuse.

 

[Kyanrute]

I will note that there is a hint of a trend here where people only come out of the woods when something out of the ordinary happens. Alas, can't really be used for much since the woodfolk are so populous.

 

[Blargonaut]

Vote for 'im then

I'm not gonna vote cabot because he's a talker. Early game needs talkers. tbh I'd rather eliminate Kyanrute or SlyOdin

 

[Kyanrute]

I'm not gonna vote cabot because he's a talker. Early game needs talkers. tbh I'd rather eliminate Kyanrute or SlyOdin

no kill kyaaa pls kyaaa too talk much

 

[Blargonaut]

I'm on team murder CCS. Me thinks the phase shouldn't be killed until the final hours, if only to eliminate "bubububu you ended phase early so i had no time to post" -excuse.

You're not qualified to make that kind of decision. CCS lives to Tomorrow or else I will Night-kill you Tonight

 

[Kyanrute]

You're not qualified to make that kind of decision. CCS lives to Tomorrow or else I will Night-kill you Tonight

I only stated my opinion, I don't see myself being raised to some town-god status where my word is the law.

NK? Sure. Hit me.

 

[Kyanrute]

As always Blarg, do let me know if you ever accuse me seriously so I can answer seriously as well.

 

[cabot]

hmmm

 

[cabot]

Right now, I feel good about Blargonaut. SkyOdin's also there, but he hasn't participated as much as in my previous two games here. Kalor is quite quiet, then again I don't remember him much from the game/s we've played.

As for the folks I'm unfamiliar with, I am still wary of Zippedpinhead, kyanrute is somewhat bothering me too, and we'll learn a lot from CCS's lynch. The two new folks should put forth at the very least some lists of who they suspect. I don't think they've pointed out anyone yet.

is skyodin being there good or bad?

 

[Blargonaut]

As always Blarg, do let me know if you ever accuse me seriously so I can answer seriously as well.

 

[Blargonaut]

I only stated my opinion, I don't see myself being raised to some town-god status where my word is the law.

NK? Sure. Hit me.

too late

 

[cabot]

Disagree. Zeusy is one of the newbies. OA was giving prudent advice: "I'm voting for this person because everyone else is" is not a justification. OA wasn't trying to stop a CCS lynch, just educate a newb on common expectations/scum behavior.

Well Kawl isn't sooooooooo...

And I'm pretty sure that our wincon involves removing threats to town, which would be actual killing roles which doesn't seem to include CCS as far as I see.

seems like he's skeptical.

 

[Kyanrute]

too late

Ah I see you used the shot already then. Too bad.

 

[Blargonaut]

Ah I see you used the shot already then. Too bad.

 

[Kyanrute]

With you Blarg, I never know if I should know the context of the .gif to interpret the message or not. Makes this all interesting I guess.

 

[Blargonaut]

With you Blarg, I never know if I should know the context of the .gif to interpret the message or not. Makes this all interesting I guess.

 

[CCS]

good morning.

CCS' clarification now makes it even more obvious we should kill him.

Splinter, why did you say it was less believeable? why would ccs say it then? It doesn't help him.



while you're 90% town, you're not 100% town, therefore by confirmed town I mean an actual confirmed town. We know everything about batsnacks, therefore sniping him is not pointful.



I did it myself and showed that 'suggesting to lynch them' was an extreme stretch, I imagined a response of you disagreeing made sense.

As for overconfidence, yeah I'm gonna be fairly bold in day phases because I am very unlikely to be killed at Night. It's natural of having this role, I did it in Overwatch too where I was commuter. You picked up on it because it happened.



I'm Lucy Kuo.



Nothing has changed. With Splinter's plan, he admits its a neutral outcome.

I contend that keeping someone around that I can't trust is a negative outcome, because while you may never fully trust someone who is unconfirmed, you always need some degree of trust.

I've been ignoring CCS since he claimed, he's dead weight to me. I'm not keeping around dead weight.

CCS has now claimed he can cause 2 kills in a night phase, that just makes it even more of a positive to waste him.

I also still think there's a chance that CCS is scum.

isaac saying he would've shot me is nice and all, but I mean my point was fairly clear, you came in. You posted a speculative outcome of CCS but you didn't say what you thought of him. That's not useful in determining your alignment. Surely you see this?

My sides are in orbit right now

Seriously though, I hope scum wins. I want to help, I role claimed to try and help town, I want to use my power to help town, you're running low on useful PRs so you really could use it. Jesus christ, play the game in front of you not your preconceived "neutral automatically = bad" decision.

Kill them for me scum team.

 

[Blargonaut]

Why are you people listening to cabot

 

[Blargonaut]

 

[cabot]

My sides are in orbit right now

Seriously though, I hope scum wins. I want to help, I role claimed to try and help town, I want to use my power to help town, you're running low on useful PRs so you really could use it. Jesus christ, play the game in front of you not your preconceived "neutral automatically = bad" decision.

Kill them for me scum team.

Your salt is amusing, regardless of the side you take, it's essentially agreed that there's no definitive right decision where it comes to your life.


From my own experience and my thoughts of the situation, I want you dead.

 

[cabot]

Why are you people listening to cabot

do we know they're listening to me?

are you assuming everyone who wants to kill CCS is because I want to?

 

[CCS]

VOTE: CCS

 

[cabot]

CCS, stop listening to me.

 

[CCS]

I'm actually a Tanner

Spoiler

I'm not, but I wish I was

 

[Blargonaut]

►

1. [f] WaffleTaco– ??
2. [m] Zeusy– ??
3. [m] Ri'Orius– ??
4. [m] OceanicAir– ??
5. [m] TheGoddamn– ??
6. [m] Kyanrute– ??, stated on D2 that he was Possessed by someone during N1 -> apparently by CCS** | p1 / p2 / p3
7. [m] betsnacks– [TOWN] "BETTY", 'Beloved' a.k.a. 'Innocent Citizen'. D1: Host-confirmed as Town-aligned. N1: During D1, had claimed receipt of 1-shot Power during N0; p1... target unknown? Exposed D1.​
8. [m] CCS– [NEUTRAL?] "SASHA?", 'Witch' a.k.a. 'Survivor/Possessor'? N1: Redirected Kyanrute's Power (if any) to an unknown target**? not to AbsolutBro or Timeaisis? Claimed D2. | p2 / p3​
9. [m] Bronx-Man– ??
10. [m] SkyOdin– ??
11. [m] AbsolutBro– [TOWN] "TRISH DAILEY", 'Doctor'. N1: Target unknown? (killed N1)​
12. [m] cabot– [????] "LUCY KUO?", 'x-shot Commuter'? N1: Expended an evade use? ?-shots remaining? Claimed D2. | p2​
13. [m] Blargonaut– ??
14. [m] Dusk Soldier– [TOWN] "NIX", 'Vigilante'. N1: --. (eliminated D1)​
15. [m] Timeaisis– [TOWN] "Seattle Hipster", 'Citizen'. N1: n/a. (killed N1)​
16. [m] Lone_Prodigy– ??
17. [m] *Splinter– ??
18. [m] Kawl_USC– [TOWN]*, ??​
19. [m] isaacnukem– ??
20. [m] Zippedpinhead– ??
21. [m] Flame_AC– ??
22. [m] Kalor– ??
23. [m] acohrs– [TOWN] "REGGIE ROWE", 'Daytime Sacrificial Alignment Cop'. D1: Investigated Kawl_USC, found him Town-aligned*; p1 / p2 / p3. (left D1)​

---

23 players.
15 / 23 as-yet-unknowns.

6 confirmed Town (4/6 dead) / 19?
0 caught Mafia / 4? 5?
1 Neutral claimant.​

 

[CCS]

Blarg, your post is missing that I redirected Kyan to try and kill Cab

 

[Blargonaut]

do we know they're listening to me?

are you assuming everyone who wants to kill CCS is because I want to?

Well, yeah

Where are your CCS alternatives

 

[cabot]

Well, yeah

Where are your CCS alternatives

I don't have an alternative, he's who I want to lynch.


People to look at tomorrow would be Splinter, isaac, Ri.

 

[Blargonaut]

I don't have an alternative, he's who I want to lynch.


People to look at tomorrow would be Splinter, isaac, Ri.

ahahhahahhhhhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahaa

 

[Blargonaut]

VOTE: CCS

vote: CCS

Sorry CCS but after getting burned in DGRonpa1 I just can't trust neutrals anymore. You are still a threat to town in my book.

I am leaning against a Cabot vote, mostly because we both disagree with batsnacks original assessment of Time's reads from yesterday.

VOTE: CCS

Just caught up this morning.


You know, I can understand some of the suspicion, since I have been a little lazy about being active in the game this time around. I've been distracted by too much FFXIV and mobile games. Sorry about that.

As far as as the main topics that emerged overnight, here is my definitive answer:

Vote: CCS

I don't trust neutrals.

There is a tiny chance I could have been convinced to put my faith in a self-professed neutral player if they were deeply moved to work in towns interests. But that isn't how CCS has been playing so far at all. CCS is playing only for CCS. He has been utterly disinterested in the outcome of votes and has instead been acting purely out of self-preservation (and thus in pursuit of his own victory). Everything from his initial threat to role claim to this current gambit at using his powers to test Kyan have been done purely for the sake of self-preservation. My read is that he would betray town without a moment's hesitation, no question.

As far as cabot x splinter goes, I obviously am on the same side as cabot as far as CCS's fate is concerned. Now, that doesn't mean I fully read cabot as town. Scum cabot and town cabot both play very similarly, and I am somewhat dubious of cabot's commuter claim. From past experience, I am wary of putting my full trust in cabot just because I agree with his arguments most of the time. I also don't know how to read splinter. I don't think his arguments are in the best interest of town, though. I am also clearly missing an in-joke between the two or something.

For now, I think both batsnacks and Kawl are cleared town. I think paranoia about a godfather whenever someone is cleared by a cop is an unnecessary distraction. We need to be aware of the possibility, but it is so unlikely that it isn't worth stressing over.

As a player of the inFAMOUS games, I want he role names from both cabot and our dear 'friend' the witch. So far all of our other roles have been reasonable mirrors of the characters in the game,s but I'm having a hard time even thinking of someone who would qualify as a witch. I'm on team anti-CCS here.

Vote: CCS

See, I was thinking that if he hit a scum that wasn't the one issuing the NK then his power would do nothing, which vastly devalues its investigative capabilities. So his clarifications increase his utility in my eyes: I'd happily trade townies' lives for confirmed scum targets.

CCS clearly can't be trusted indefinitely, since if he behaves 100% town then scum will kill him. The optimist in me wants to try to string him along long enough for that to happen: let him give us a bit of info and then eat a mafia bullet. But... that's not going to happen. CCS will try to play both sides to fulfill his wincon, and can possibly do that in a way we won't see happen.

VOTE: CCS

Vote: ccs

I'm joining the bandwagon...

Vote: ccs

 

[cabot]

*
VOTE: Dusk Soldier

i declare this the main wagon for I am "Betty" declarer of wagons

Foiled again. I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids.

Vote: Dusk Soldier

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

Yeah, why not.

VOTE: AbsolutBro

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

I guess it's better to vote for someone then no one
Vote: Dusk Soldier

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

So be it.

Goodbye, Dusk.

VOTE: Dusk Soldier

Yes, I can post all the votes of someone too ya know.

 

[cabot]

my point is when you just post the votes without any other discussion, there's nothing to say.

The only two in your list that are suspicious are zeusy and bronx.


Bronx less so cause outside of shitposting all day, he did chase CCS on D1 as well.

 

[*Splinter]

What's the case against Ri? Is it just the "look at the vote tie-ers" thing? Because that was more wrong than scummy.

 

[*Splinter]

I'm not gonna vote cabot because he's a talker. Early game needs talkers. tbh I'd rather eliminate Kyanrute or SlyOdin

I could go for Sky I guess. I don't remember anything specific enough for a strong read but there was at least one iffy looking post from him.

 

[Blargonaut]

Yes, I can post all the votes of someone too ya know.

meaningless without a gist GIF, try again

 

[cabot]

What's the case against Ri? Is it just the "look at the vote tie-ers" thing? Because that was more wrong than scummy.

I'm struggling to see much engagement, which is sort of a continuation from Day 1, though his vote on CCS felt genuine. Some more posts on things would help.

 

[Blargonaut]

my point is when you just post the votes without any other discussion, there's nothing to say.

The only two in your list that are suspicious are zeusy and bronx.


Bronx less so cause outside of shitposting all day, he did chase CCS on D1 as well.

I agree

 

[cabot]

I think from the D1 vote, isaac and OA look most suspicious.


OA seems less scum and more of a different point of view so far, whereas I'm not convinced by isaac at all.

 

[cabot]

Actually, I've missed Zipped, who had no vote at D1 end.

Day 1:

I'm thinking flame_AC may be scum, just the right amount of posts to not posting, I don't really understand the Bronx man vote.

However, I'm getting scum tells from timeaisis as well. It could be lunch/break posting, but his posts seem stacked. Like he doesnt have much to worry about. However, like I said, it could just be posting during lunch/breaks (I know I'm just as guilty). And Timeaisis has voted for flame_AC.

So, for the time being, I'm voting for flame_AC. Just got that feeling today.

vote: Flame_AC

unvote

I am categorically against Day 1 role claims, especially after we have already had a sacrifice role claim

I posted too quickly. If two votes on day 1 makes you want to role claim, i don't know how to take that.

It just seems so early to role claim!

First post from Day 2:

If this was from anyone else but you and kawl i would think you were scum trying to use a town read from a confirmed townie as fact.

Just because time and AB flipped town doesn't mean CCS is not scum. It just means that a townie thought he wasn't. Now I'm thinking he isn't scum either, but this line of thought can be easily co-opted from scum.

I'm far more interested in flame_AC today. Almost claimed yesterday, but then (very reasonably) did not (sensible play). It's the easy move into almost claiming that I don't understand. Not claiming makes sense regardless of who you are/what role you have.

So what happened on D1, Zipped?

 

[Blargonaut]

cabot you seem tense

 

[Blargonaut]

CCS seems far more relaxed than you

I think you have more to lose, cabot

 

[cabot]

the game isn't lost once I'm dead, so no, apparently I don't have more to lose.

 

[batsnacks]

I'm looking forward to laughing at bats when I flip and prove that everything I've said is true.

Idiot.

Its actually not on me that you claimed a role that hurts town for some reason and then stopped playing lol

 

[*Splinter]

the game isn't lost once I'm dead, so no, apparently I don't have more to lose.

Scum are currently in a better position than CCS though

 

[Blargonaut]

Blarg, your post is missing that I redirected Kyan to try and kill Cab

Why did you do this