Blargonaut
Banned
Will get around to D2 in a few hours. Seems like T_G wasn't particularly active, any questions people have for me in the mean time?
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Will get around to D2 in a few hours. Seems like T_G wasn't particularly active, any questions people have for me in the mean time?
cabot
Waffle and Zeus(unfortunately)
batsnacks(deceased and town)
equally worried as us about what CCS would do, especially in the early game when it behooves a Neutral Survivor to help the as-yet strongest Town.
Neutral CCS balked and lied that he redirected to cabot, to save face
Zeusy, your case against Blarg makes sense and the only reason I don't suspect him for it is because it's Blarg, he does this shit every game unfortunately.
Who else do you think is scum?
I see how it's a thing that's possible to happen, but how likely do you think it is? And why?w a i t
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If CCS Possessed Kyanrute N1, and we got 2 dead N1
I think CCS lied about redirecting Kyan to cabot
I think CCS sent Kyan to Absbro N1; CCS thinking he was helping Town by moving against D1's 2nd-most scum-read, Absbro... but when Absbro died and turned out to be our Doctor, Neutral CCS balked and lied that he redirected to cabot, to save face
Kyan must have been scum to have been Possessed to kill Absbro
That's why Kyan wouldn't vote against cabot Yesterday, because they're scum-mates
CCS just happened to lie in a way that pinned 2 scum to the pressure; straight-up revealed Kyan to be scum, and got cabot to Role-claim as (Odd-Night) Commuter defensively!
shit
VOTE: Kyanrute
*pouts*So far, Splinter is giving me town vibes, and I think I'm fairly good at reading him.
I don't know what Isaac is doing, but I'm guessing it isn't "scumread dead townies".Someone most people scum read, the two people in the "gossip" (reasonable) AND a confirmed townie?!?!?
And me, but l discount that for this argument.
How do you rationalize scum reading a confirmed town person?
vote: isaacnukem
I don't know what Isaac is doing, but I'm guessing it isn't "scumread dead townies".
Regardless, why do you think scum would scumread a dead townie?
If CCS Possessed Kyanrute N1, and we got 2 dead N1
I think CCS lied about redirecting Kyan to cabot
I think CCS sent Kyan to Absbro N1; CCS thinking he was helping Town by moving against D1's 2nd-most scum-read, Absbro... but when Absbro died and turned out to be our Doctor, Neutral CCS balked and lied that he redirected to cabot, to save face
Kyan must have been scum to have been Possessed to kill Absbro
That's why Kyan wouldn't vote against cabot Yesterday, because they're scum-mates
CCS just happened to lie in a way that pinned 2 scum to the pressure; straight-up revealed Kyan to be scum, and got cabot to Role-claim as (Odd-Night) Commuter defensively!
Cabot's first point is really stretching it. Trying to create artificial dirt on AB? Well, we now know that AB was town.
Someone most people scum read, the two people in the "gossip" (reasonable) AND a confirmed townie?!?!?
And me, but l discount that for this argument.
How do you rationalize scum reading a confirmed town person?
vote: isaacnukem
You agree with me and I know I'm town. That's enough for right now. It's still day 2, lots of time to swap votes and get better reads.
vote: CCS
Sorry CCS but after getting burned in DGRonpa1 I just can't trust neutrals anymore. You are still a threat to town in my book.
I am leaning against a Cabot vote, mostly because we both disagree with batsnacks original assessment of Time's reads from yesterday.
Cohesion Blarg, cohesion. What if town had an investigative role who saw what CCS did? The lie would kill him. Why take THIS risk if he already risked a neutral claim? If he risks one thing, surely he'd risk another too.
The assumption is that his scum read of the confirmed townie was still present while said dead townie was alive. Scum rely on misdirection and trying to remove facts from what we know. So if they try to misdirect us by saying "oh look kawl has to be a godfather" or "oh batsnacks is scum, never mind his role PM in the game opening" that directly hurts us.
I'm merely calling it out as ridiculous and that's it's latent misdirection. Which leads me to scum reading him.
I thought about that, but initially discarded it for two reasons. First, I don't expect scum!Kyan would've been so open about being targeted by an unknown ability. Second, if CCS had successfully found scum with his ability, and was hoping to pull a "I'll scumhunt for Town if y'all let me live" strategy, he'd've told us about him.
Nobody would've held "you killed the Doctor!" against him. Half of Town was ready to lynch AB, he was the right choice for a Town-aligned killer (in fact that's a lot of our reaction to his death: someone who wants to be on Town's good side got a shot off last night).
But now that I think about it some more (and probably overthink it, I'll admit), if CCS had found scum, perhaps his whole ploy was based on the idea that he'd tell Town he'd work for us while clearly demonstrating to scum that he wasn't. Because yeah, if CCS had immediately pointed us at scum, he'd've been dead that night, 100%. He ended up dying during the day, but if he'd convinced us to put up with him he'd've been reasonably safe from both scum and town.
I feel like the problem with Blarg's theory in Kyanrute/CCS possession is that, why wouldn't CCS have saved himself from being lynched with this spectacular, likely incriminating evidence? If CCS had brought something similar to Blarg's theory up to try and explain our N1, I'm 99% positive they would have lived, at least during the days, for a while. (Scum might have decided to kill the witch to stop a weak-cop from running around.) So, the fact that CCS didn't do this makes me feel like they were telling the truth, or at the very least weren't lying about / possibly protecting scum Kyan.
I feel like the problem with Blarg's theory in Kyanrute/CCS possession is that, why wouldn't CCS have saved himself from being lynched with this spectacular, likely incriminating evidence? If CCS had brought something similar to Blarg's theory up to try and explain our N1, I'm 99% positive they would have lived, at least during the days, for a while. (Scum might have decided to kill the witch to stop a weak-cop from running around.) So, the fact that CCS didn't do this makes me feel like they were telling the truth, or at the very least weren't lying about / possibly protecting scum Kyan.
I feel like the problem with Blarg's theory in Kyanrute/CCS possession is that, why wouldn't CCS have saved himself from being lynched with this spectacular, likely incriminating evidence? If CCS had brought something similar to Blarg's theory up to try and explain our N1, I'm 99% positive they would have lived, at least during the days, for a while. (Scum might have decided to kill the witch to stop a weak-cop from running around.) So, the fact that CCS didn't do this makes me feel like they were telling the truth, or at the very least weren't lying about / possibly protecting scum Kyan.
No "might" about it. Our doctor is dead. If CCS had outed a scum he'd've been NKed for sure. Ergo CCS wouldn't have told us if he'd sent Kyan to AB.
Really my question now is: would scum!Kyan have been forthcoming about having been possessed without knowing what it means? And I really don't know. I think if I were scum I'd've been super cautious about drawing attention to myself like that (heck, I doubt I'd do it as town), but I'm kind of a coward like that.
More experienced players: how do people tend to react to receiving mysterious messages in the night? Is it considered scummy to hide that sort of information?
Did you see the way the majority treated him? No one would've believed him and he knew it
He hinted as much to the Kyan-truth with his explanation of his Power with respects to forcing scum's factional kill, YET THE TELLING OF WHICH ONLY GOT HIM MORE SCUM-READ :/ He was unappreciated and Neutral and felt no obligation to us after that treatment
10 players threw their votes and sense in the trash Yesterday, just admit it you ten
Your avatar is petty much how I feel after reading that lol. Like you make this case, and at the last second you mention how Splinter could be scum.
More experienced players: how do people tend to react to receiving mysterious messages in the night? Is it considered scummy to hide that sort of information?
Did you see the way the majority treated him? No one would've believed him and he knew it
He hinted as much to the Kyan-truth with his explanation of his Power with respects to forcing scum's factional kill, YET THE TELLING OF WHICH ONLY GOT HIM MORE SCUM-READ :/ He was unappreciated and Neutral and felt no obligation to us after that treatment
10 players threw their votes and sense in the trash Yesterday, just admit it you ten
Assuming you received a message, what happened night one?
We would've believed him enough to lynch Kyan. And if Kyan had flipped scum I think we'd've been more inclined to believe his "let me scumhunt for you!" claim.
As is you're suggesting that CCS knew of a mafia member, and chose not to tell us about him while claiming that he'd be an asset to town. And that we're all bad people for thinking that maybe he'd lie to us.
If Kyan is scum and CCS knew and didn't tell us, that only makes the ten of us who lynched him righter.
cabot, on mobile so quoteing down to your one line is difficult but I'll answer you "right now" (since I just read it).
Scum Isaac is trying to spread misinformation, that's the whole point. What other reason does he have to say that he scum read batsnacks (the one person literally EVERY single one of us should have on our town list)?
Now I can't think of any reason why spreading misinformation and scumreading batsnacks would make sense if he is town. Since, in my thinking, he can not be town that leaves he must be scum. Looking at the action down that thinking strengthens the misinformation idea. So I voted for him.
Honestly with you coming to his defense, it is changing my opinion on you. I'm starting to see why others are scum reading you. It's things that don't make sense for someone from town to do, and then you doing them. That's what's changing my opinion.
I don't believe you
If you were truly willing to put yourself in the right, you'd be voting against Kyan Today after the CCS fact
but you aren't
spreading misinformation is a bad thing, but it doesn't always mean scum, it could be neutral. It could be Town pulling a weird gambit. Why are you so eager to rule out neutral?
If you're scum, why would you put the confirmed town as a suspicious target?
Why would you do it as a neutral or as town? It doesn't make sense at all, it makes the least sense as town. Now isaacnukem could be neutral, you do have a point there. But I'm sticking to my guns, I think isaacnukem is scum.
I'm strongly considering voting for Kyan, but I'm worried about falling for a theory because it's clever rather than because it's likely.
But you tell me, Blarg: suppose Kyan is scum. Suppose CCS knew that. Why do you still think we should've kept him around? If we can't trust him to help us hunt scum, and if he was in fact actively hiding scum from us, why should we have let him sick around?
Cohesion Blarg, cohesion. What if town had an investigative role who saw what CCS did? The lie would kill him. Why take THIS risk if he already risked a neutral claim? If he risks one thing, surely he'd risk another too.
I see how it's a thing that's possible to happen, but how likely do you think it is? And why?
I also don't see how cabot's claim helps their situation.
*pouts*
i dont spend my time trying to think of reasons why someone did things as a particular alignment. I just expect it to happen.
Please tell me why scum isaac would give the read list he gave.
You're the only one troubled by that list. I put him there as a lark. He was confirmed town but if he wasn't town I would've voted for him as scum and yet I didn't. You're the one making out too much something out of nothing. Also, you seem to have been more active now that the spotlight's trained on you.No answer I give you will ever be enough. Done playing this game with you. This is my final response to this as I feel we are running circles. I've explained that, in my mind, his actions make no sense. It makes the least amount of sense as town, because it's blatantly being mistrustful, spreading misinformation and not being pro town. Out of the two remaining alignments, I think spreading misinformation is more scum aligned , so he is scum.
Scum Isaac gives that list because he wants to cause trouble, which he is succeeding at based on our rambling on about it.
Quick question the day doesn't end on Saturday right? It goes until Sunday? Because it's my birthday tomorrow and I highly doubt I will be active at all tomorrow...
Ty, still waiting on BLARG!! Still avoiding my questions too much. Also not buying the "it's just blarg"It ends on Sunday. A timers in the day start post.
Birthday yesterday, traveling all night and now spending time with my nephew for the first time. So I'll probably be a bit sparse this day phase. Weekend phase suuuuuck.
There's literally no way scum Cabot doesn't just stick to his fuck neutrals stance. His flip flopping makes me town read him pretty strong.
Sky still seems scummy, but I'll admit I've only had time for a cursory read of the new day phase.
Blarg is going in hard. His revisionism of last day phase is getting pretty old. Trusting ccs especially when he only introduces additional deaths was never smart given the clarifications. Could see him doing this song and dance as the sacrificial scum that he always plays as.
Ty, still waiting on BLARG!! Still avoiding my questions too much. Also not buying the "it's just blarg"
Yes his potential meat shield in a situation where he doesn't purposefully screw us over benefited me and bats, and yet every other part of every other situation damaged town. Shockingly not everyone plays mafia selfishly.Revisionism? Keep on ignoring CCS' merits, they only benefited you and bets lol
You got yourself good and you still don't see it
Tell me something I don't know
Yes his potential meat shield in a situation where he doesn't purposefully screw us over benefited me and bats, and yet every other part of every other situation damaged town. Shockingly not everyone plays mafia selfishly.
I know that is a completely foreign idea to you though.
Saving me for an additional day at the potential cost of moving up lylo by multiple days is never the right playHow is saving you not pro-Town?