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InFAMOUS [Mafia] [OT] No Good Karma...

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cabot

Member
Kalor said:
Batsnacks being night killed was inevitable. Scum will want to reduce the amount of confirmed town so that they can blend in as the player count falls. No second kill as well. Maybe it's a neutral who kills every other day. I thought about the idea that scum got a second kill but I'm not sure about that.
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Ri is in my top three targets, but why would batsnacks be killed before Kawl?


I mean, batsnacks last lead was going after godfather Kawl. Surely a reason to keep him alive if Kawl is Town.

We don't know what Kawl is apart from town aligned.
 
C

cabot

Member
other thoughts,

the other killing party on N1:

1. town aligned JOAT
2. neutral SK who missed N2
3. CCS lied and killed AB.



I think 3 is super unlikely, probably 1.

If it was 2, I strongly suspect the SK would kill me to try and make up for killing our doc.
 
K

Kalor

Member
cabot said:
Ri is in my top three targets, but why would batsnacks be killed before Kawl?


I mean, batsnacks last lead was going after godfather Kawl. Surely a reason to keep him alive if Kawl is Town.

We don't know what Kawl is apart from town aligned.
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Kawl has more uncertainty over him so maybe they thought we might lynch him for that. The possibility that they killed him to protect godfather Kawl is there but I'm not sure about it. I don't think it's a problem that needs to be resolved today.
 
C

cabot

Member
While I still scumread isaac, he did not place a vote on CCS when it was an easy choice. That for now is making me a little weary on him.

Bronx and Ri are both on the CCS wagon, as well as the Dusk wagon in D1.

These are my two most suspicious.

SkyOdin would be third, because while he wasn't on Dusk, he did pull day end shenanigans. This coupled with the CCS vote makes me lean scum.


I don't know about LP. Certainly not beneficial town actions, turboing when 2 hours were left. He's a potential target but outside of those three.
 
L

Lone_Prodigy

Member
Kawl was probably spared because between him and bats, he may be the more valuable of the two and would get more attention from any remaining PR's.
 
B

Bronx-Man

Banned
"I was on the CCS wagon, therefore my picks for likeliest to be scum were those on the CCS wagon"


I mean.....you do you, man. For the record, I do think Cabot is town but I'm just basing that on meta so far.
 
C

cabot

Member
I won't deny that me pushing for CCS dying is scummy, it was clear once he flipped that it benefitted scum.


However most of my reasons for lynching him was previous bad experiences with neutrals and just not trusting CCS would help us in any real way.


Here we go
 
S

Swamped

Banned
Will start reading the thread now, excited to be a part of this game! In the mean time, will hone my magic skills? Biking skills? Beanie skills? I have no idea what this game is about lol
 
R

Ri'Orius

Member
cabot said:
I won't deny that me pushing for CCS dying is scummy, it was clear once he flipped that it benefitted scum.


However most of my reasons for lynching him was previous bad experiences with neutrals and just not trusting CCS would help us in any real way.


Here we go
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Wait, what? Yesterday you were full of "Neutrals add noise lover. I am not okay with letting one live," and "gafia towns have been screwed by neutral survivors quite a few times." Yet now you're trying to say you only voted CCS because you thought he was a mafia redirector? And that his neutrality makes anyone who voted for him scummy?

Killing CCS was the right play. *Splinter's "let's keep him around and hope he doesn't betray us" plan was never going to work. And I find it hard to believe you honestly believed CCS was scum with some elaborate and unnecessary "I'm a neutral you can trust!" gambit.

cabot said:
Ri is in my top three targets, but why would batsnacks be killed before Kawl?


I mean, batsnacks last lead was going after godfather Kawl. Surely a reason to keep him alive if Kawl is Town.

We don't know what Kawl is apart from town aligned.
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Probably just trying to dodge a tracker or similar. Maybe they thought a JOAT would use his Doctor charge tonight on Kawl. Doesn't seem that noteworthy that they'd go for the second most obvious target rather than the first.

And nobody was going to buy bat's crazy Kawlfather theory. Which makes the fact that you're teasing it a bit here ("if Kawl is town"?) seem odd.

cabot said:
While I still scumread isaac, he did not place a vote on CCS when it was an easy choice. That for now is making me a little weary on him.

Bronx and Ri are both on the CCS wagon, as well as the Dusk wagon in D1.

These are my two most suspicious.

SkyOdin would be third, because while he wasn't on Dusk, he did pull day end shenanigans. This coupled with the CCS vote makes me lean scum.


I don't know about LP. Certainly not beneficial town actions, turboing when 2 hours were left. He's a potential target but outside of those three.
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People who voted Dusk are scummy now? What about the people who voted AB? You remember he was town, too?
 
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isaacnukem

Member
Hello, I won't be around for a good portion of tomorrow. I'll try to join today whenever I'm free. Anyway, don't panic, everyone, we can still win this.
 
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isaacnukem

Member
Wow, you got me there. I don't know how I'll defend myself, so I'll just let you keep your vote on me.

Scumbuddies cabot, zippedpinhead, Blargonaut, and SkyOdin, please forgive me for slipping.
 
F

Flame_AC

Member
Am I just being forgetful or is the reason for batsnacks' death rather obvious. He had an item that was going to be used during the night and scum very likely was afraid of whatever would happen with its use, thus they kill them and solve two problems at once. What say y'all?
 
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isaacnukem

Member
Flame_AC said:
Am I just being forgetful or is the reason for batsnacks' death rather obvious. He had an item that was going to be used during the night and scum very likely was afraid of whatever would happen with its use, thus they kill them and solve two problems at once. What say y'all?
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Yeah, I'm calling a bluff on the item.
 
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SkyOdin

Member
It is possible that batsnacks was trying to draw attention to himself for some reason with the item talk, but I don't know for what purpose.

Perhaps batsnacks was trying to get killed? He may have thought that it was better for an effectively vanilla player to be NKed, rather than a potential PR? Not a likely answer, but it is the best I can come up with.
 
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SkyOdin

Member
Kalor said:
It's just the way that I've read them this game. I don't really have specific examples to point to.
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You have so far consistently avoided making any arguments to back up your town/scum reads, Kalor. Last day phase, you voted for me, claiming that I was the only person who stood out to you. However, you were pretty blatently bandwagoning off of Kawl and Blarg's votes for me.

It feels like you are just going with the flow instead of forming your own opinions.

What is your read on cabot right now? Or how about OceanicAir?
 
Z

Zippedpinhead

Member
Blargonaut said:
I think we can all admit how correct I was and how wrong cabot and his followers are
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For what it's worth, I think you are town and obviously you were correct yesterday. I still think Cabot is town though.

My money is on Skyodin, don't trust him...

I can't make sense of waffle taco and isaacnukem's back and forth. My gut says waffletaco is scum though...
 
B

Blargonaut

Banned
Zippedpinhead said:
For what it's worth, I think you are town and obviously you were correct yesterday. I still think Cabot is town though.

My money is on Skyodin, don't trust him...

I can't make sense of waffle taco and isaacnukem's back and forth. My gut says waffletaco is scum though...
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nah what has cabot done except change his claim and tunnel

I know who I'm against

Do you
 
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SkyOdin

Member
I for one have no regrets about lynching CCS. I believed his claims as to what he was, but I simply had no faith that he would act in town's interest. None of his behavior in the first two days gave me any reason to trust him. I think we did the right thing.

Which is why I am so perplexed by cabot's sudden change in tune. Why distance himself from the lynch now? Why pretend that there was some sudden revelation when CCS flipped? Him being a neutral was always a likely probability. I have no idea what cabot is thinking with this shift.
 
B

Blargonaut

Banned
SkyOdin said:
I for one have no regrets about lynching CCS. I believed his claims as to what he was, but I simply had no faith that he would act in town's interest. None of his behavior in the first two days gave me any reason to trust him. I think we did the right thing.

*flash*
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nope.

Majority made a mistake, plain & simple. Even if you can't trust a Neutral's own motive(s), you can trust they'll catch a Mafia's shot as cannon fodder for Town just as well as any body

If you want Mafia sitting at the table long enough for us to get there, you don't take a course out from under them, they'll just finish eating faster

If we had kept him alive, Mafia'd likely ignore CCS for then and gunned for Kawl or bets anyway, yes; but you'd have them as equally worried as us about what CCS would do, especially in the early game when it behooves a Neutral Survivor to help the as-yet strongest Town. The point is to provide a choicier menu to slow scum down; even better with CCS as he was an active interferer. A menu which we didn't provide, and now our confirmed pool is scum's fast food

We should've KO'd cabot Yesterday, and let CCS help us scum-hunt via forcing people against others until he found a killer

But who do we have to help us scum-hunt instead? cabot, whose Power is to turn himself invisible

wow, service to Town

SkyOdin said:
*boom*

Which is why I am so perplexed by cabot's sudden change in tune. Why distance himself from the lynch now? Why pretend that there was some sudden revelation when CCS flipped? Him being a neutral was always a likely probability. I have no idea what cabot is thinking with this shift.
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turn himself invisible
 
B

Blargonaut

Banned
batsnacks said:
IM DEAD GG FRIENDS
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K

Kyanrute

Member
mah second pick without that much thinking would be coast-man

wouldn't be opposed to the idea that cabbo is now doing the "pls lynch mah scum mate" to survive
 
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