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InFAMOUS [Mafia] [OT] No Good Karma...
- Thread starter melonrabbit
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Damn straight
It is... Kinda? I mean we're getting dangerously close to end game, it's the time to be considering every possibility. OTOH I find it weird that he's suddenly scumreading me after sheeping me all game.
Wait... You think Cabot is a scum commuter? With a scum bulletproof?
What is this nonsense?
I think you are being a little too eager to jump into this three-way thunderdome scenario that is brewing. I know that cabot is really pushing it, but we still need to keep alert to scum hiding elsewhere.
Also, you never answered my previous question. Why do you think Blarg and Kyan are scummier than Splinter and cabot?
Zippedpinhead
Member
I go and get drunk at a bachelor party and the game slows to a crawl...
I'm not sure who I'd vote for yet, but I'm getting serious blarg/kyanrute scum vibes now.
Cabot why do you feel your flip will be beneficial for town?
I'm not sure who I'd vote for yet, but I'm getting serious blarg/kyanrute scum vibes now.
Cabot why do you feel your flip will be beneficial for town?
I meant to answer that this morning but forgot about it. With Blarg it's because I think he's been inconsistent during the game. I'd find examples if I wasn't on mobile. Kyan is more of a gut feeling. I can't really find much to specifically point to and say that it's scummy.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Since no one has come forward with any sort of blocking/BP power, it's not unreasonable to think that the reason Bronx didn't kill anyone one night was because of cabot the commuter. What are the other possibilities? Mafia roleblocker got lucky and then stopped blocking him? He missed an action entirely?
Blargonaut
Banned
What do you think cabot is?
I'm not too crazy about narrowing the focus down to just cabot, Splinter, and Blarg. I think the idea that there will forever be unfinished business until we lynch someone from that group only holds true so long as people continue to get stuck moving in circles. In the past, I have said that I read all three as townies who have been tunneling each other hardcore, and I still generally think that.
If I had no choice but to choose between them, I think cabot is probably the most likely to be town, if only because I think it is likely that Bronx shot at him (which would lend credibility to cabot's commuter claim). I think cabot has grown frustrated and unable to move past how heavily others have scumread him, but those aren't scummy traits in of themselves.
*Splinter I have a harder time reading. He is very active, but has kept a pretty narrow focus in his targets. I went back to reread some of day 1, and his early posts gave me a slightly odd vibe. I also was surprised that he didn't realize I was already voting for Flame during the last minutes of day 5. I had that vote for the whole day phase. In fact, his entire behavior during that vote was a little erratic and poorly justified. Nothing definitivly scum though.
Blarg is impossible for me to read. I leaned town on him earlier, but I can never be 100% certain with him.
If I had no choice but to choose between them, I think cabot is probably the most likely to be town, if only because I think it is likely that Bronx shot at him (which would lend credibility to cabot's commuter claim). I think cabot has grown frustrated and unable to move past how heavily others have scumread him, but those aren't scummy traits in of themselves.
*Splinter I have a harder time reading. He is very active, but has kept a pretty narrow focus in his targets. I went back to reread some of day 1, and his early posts gave me a slightly odd vibe. I also was surprised that he didn't realize I was already voting for Flame during the last minutes of day 5. I had that vote for the whole day phase. In fact, his entire behavior during that vote was a little erratic and poorly justified. Nothing definitivly scum though.
Blarg is impossible for me to read. I leaned town on him earlier, but I can never be 100% certain with him.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 6 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
cabot (2) 3 more votes to majority
Blargonaut 3041
Kyanrute 3052 3091
cabot 3061
*Splinter (1)
Kyanrute 3091
Blargonaut (1)
cabot 2997 3061
Kalor 3063
No active vote for Day 6: *Splinter, Lone_Prodigy, OceanicAir, SkyOdin, Zippedpinhead
Day 6 Postcount: *Splinter 11, Blargonaut 17, cabot 20, Kalor 7, Kyanrute 32, Lone_Prodigy 3, OceanicAir 10, SkyOdin 8, Zippedpinhead 4
Day 6 ends:
Automated vote tally here
5 votes for majority
cabot (2) 3 more votes to majority
Blargonaut 3041
cabot 3061
*Splinter (1)
Kyanrute 3091
Blargonaut (1)
Kalor 3063
No active vote for Day 6: *Splinter, Lone_Prodigy, OceanicAir, SkyOdin, Zippedpinhead
Day 6 Postcount: *Splinter 11, Blargonaut 17, cabot 20, Kalor 7, Kyanrute 32, Lone_Prodigy 3, OceanicAir 10, SkyOdin 8, Zippedpinhead 4
Day 6 ends:
Automated vote tally here
5 votes for majority
Zippedpinhead
Member
I'm thinking on one of those nights he tried out cabot's commuter claim and didn't hit, since bronx already had a town kill he was likely trying to hunt scum and decided to get Cabot later after the 1 of each goal was finished.
Zippedpinhead
Member
With two skipped nights and no reason to assume a blocker exists. A swing and a miss on Cabot makes the most sense for the other missing kill night.
And to me that makes Cabot town.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
We've passed the point where we lynch for info. Removing one of Splinter/cabot/Blarg resolves little. Maybe it's a bus. Maybe it's three townies.
cabot might have just gotten dealt some bad luck with a scummy role and poor timing on his reveal. I feel like he's interacted with most other players, been relatively transparent in his posts, and while he has switched targets a lot, thought about giving up, and hasn't voted optimally, it's not like any of us have done better. I mean, yeah, he could be cackling in scum chat how he's escaped a lynch since Day 2, but I'm fairly certain he's town.
Going to do a reread of Splinter and Blarg's posts.
cabot might have just gotten dealt some bad luck with a scummy role and poor timing on his reveal. I feel like he's interacted with most other players, been relatively transparent in his posts, and while he has switched targets a lot, thought about giving up, and hasn't voted optimally, it's not like any of us have done better. I mean, yeah, he could be cackling in scum chat how he's escaped a lynch since Day 2, but I'm fairly certain he's town.
Going to do a reread of Splinter and Blarg's posts.
Hmm... I had been assuming scum roleblocked the SK. I can kind of explain why they wouldn't kill him, but it hadn't occured to me that they could also have continued blocking him.
Scum or commuter.
And as much as it pains me to say it I might have been wrong between those two options.
Cabot and Blarg are scum.
There was that infamous (lol) unvote, where Blarg could have had Cabot lynched but didn't, despite tunnelling him for at least a day phase. Current excuse for that is feigned frustration (why?) followed by falling asleep. AKA "I totally wanted to vote for him it was an accident". Uh huh.
Last phase, Cabot is AGAIN up for possible lynch, and Blarg starts pushing for Bronx (the SK) instead?
And now today, I think his vote is currently on Cabot but he's already introduced the idea of me being scum.
Blarg has been tunnelling Cabot almost as long as I have, and yet twice he's passed up the opportunity to lynch him, with today looking likely to be a third. I can't believe I didn't spot this sooner. It also explains Blarg's nonsensical opinion on Cabot today (scum AND commuter). He thinks town believes Cabot is commuter so going along with that opinion, while also tactically scumreading him, and not realising those two opinions don't line up.
Cabot is scum.
Scum maybe knew about Bronx, most likely due to a roleblocker.
Why didn't they kill Bronx? Don't know. Maybe feared he was bulletproof? (Common for SK)
Why didn't they block him? Don't know again, roleblocker was x-shot is the only thing I can think of.
Maybe they didn't know about Bronx, that's a point in cabot's favour more than Blarg's. Most damning thing here is Blarg keeping his convenient tunnel alive all game.
I'll come back to Cabot after we mass claim. In all honesty him going all in with the frustrated act has had me doubting myself for a while.
VOTE: Blargonaut
Forgive me lover.
Unless you're scum.
Which you still most likely are.
Like, 70%.
There was that infamous (lol) unvote, where Blarg could have had Cabot lynched but didn't, despite tunnelling him for at least a day phase. Current excuse for that is feigned frustration (why?) followed by falling asleep. AKA "I totally wanted to vote for him it was an accident". Uh huh.
Last phase, Cabot is AGAIN up for possible lynch, and Blarg starts pushing for Bronx (the SK) instead?
And now today, I think his vote is currently on Cabot but he's already introduced the idea of me being scum.
Blarg has been tunnelling Cabot almost as long as I have, and yet twice he's passed up the opportunity to lynch him, with today looking likely to be a third. I can't believe I didn't spot this sooner. It also explains Blarg's nonsensical opinion on Cabot today (scum AND commuter). He thinks town believes Cabot is commuter so going along with that opinion, while also tactically scumreading him, and not realising those two opinions don't line up.
Cabot is scum.
Scum maybe knew about Bronx, most likely due to a roleblocker.
Why didn't they kill Bronx? Don't know. Maybe feared he was bulletproof? (Common for SK)
Why didn't they block him? Don't know again, roleblocker was x-shot is the only thing I can think of.
Maybe they didn't know about Bronx, that's a point in cabot's favour more than Blarg's. Most damning thing here is Blarg keeping his convenient tunnel alive all game.
I'll come back to Cabot after we mass claim. In all honesty him going all in with the frustrated act has had me doubting myself for a while.
VOTE: Blargonaut
Forgive me lover.
Unless you're scum.
Which you still most likely are.
Like, 70%.
Blargonaut
Banned
lol you smooth fuck you know I got my sights on cabot and by calling me and yourself but mainly me out for this incessant tunnelling of him, you've deftly manoeuvred yourself into a position where your vote can remain fluid in your targeting but mine has to be locked onto cabot or else you
Not only are you vastly overestimating how Bad I am at this game, but now I'm starting to think you're more scummy than cabot
Doing nothing but freeload on MY tunnel for the whole game
then have the gall to call me out for the mutual
Go away
Blargonaut
Banned
cabot then you
Blargonaut
Banned
no
VOTE: *Splinter
VOTE: *Splinter
That's rich when you've been sheeping me all game. How can I piggyback off your tunnel if I was on him first?
Zippedpinhead
Member
vote: kyanrute
Out of Cabot, *splinter and blargonaut I am the most sure of Cabot being town, then splinter and then BLarg. However, until I get a better handle on you three, I'm going to go with a fourth option today.
Out of Cabot, *splinter and blargonaut I am the most sure of Cabot being town, then splinter and then BLarg. However, until I get a better handle on you three, I'm going to go with a fourth option today.
whyyy kyaaa?
Zippedpinhead
Member
To see if you were still lurking and ask what you think of Cabot, blargonaut and *splinter?
unvote
Vote: *Splinter
I don't like that last bunch of posts. You start out by considering that cabot might be town, but then quickly launch into a convoluted theory about how cabot and Blarg must be scum.
Now, I can understand a townie having fluid opinions, but it feels like you are doing the opposite. Instead of changing your opinions based on new information, you are starting with the outcome you want to sell and twist your logic into pretzels to suit that outcome.
I don't like that last bunch of posts. You start out by considering that cabot might be town, but then quickly launch into a convoluted theory about how cabot and Blarg must be scum.
Now, I can understand a townie having fluid opinions, but it feels like you are doing the opposite. Instead of changing your opinions based on new information, you are starting with the outcome you want to sell and twist your logic into pretzels to suit that outcome.
Why?
Cabot is scummy. Blarg avoids lynching him. Conclusion: both are scum.
Doesn't seem that hard to follow.
kyaaa great lurker, mighty starcraft creature!
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umm
is very difficult
I'm not sure if I/we are being played and there is a fucking smokescreen play going on or not. Well the smoke is there but is it town doing it or scum, fuck if I know.
That isn't a convincing argument. The commuter thing makes it likely cabot is town. Furthermore, Bronx_Man has been scummy all game, so someone voting for him isn't inherently scummy. I might buy Blarg being scum, but I can't agree with your theory that cabot and Blarg are in cahoots.
I also don't agree with the premise that scum would avoid voting for scum.
The tone is weird here with the "the trio ain't that good a lynch info-wise but I'll look into them anyway".
melonrabbit
Member
DAY 6 CURRENT VOTE:
Day 6 votes
blargonaut (2)
cabot 2997 (3061)
kalor 3063
*splinter 3117
cabot (2)
blargonaut 3041 (3120)
kyanrute 3052 (3091)
cabot 3061
kyanrute 3129
*splinter (2)
kyanrute 3091 (3129)
blargonaut 3120
skyodin 3126
kyanrute (0)
zippedpinhead 3123 (3125)
Day 6 ends:
Automated vote tally here
5 votes 2 majority
Day 6 votes
blargonaut (2)
kalor 3063
*splinter 3117
cabot (2)
cabot 3061
kyanrute 3129
*splinter (2)
blargonaut 3120
skyodin 3126
kyanrute (0)
Day 6 ends:
Automated vote tally here
5 votes 2 majority
Why the fuck are the two people that have been wanting me dead all game voting on each other now.
Christ.
Zipped you do realise its most likely Lylo after today. Do you even scumread kyan?
Like this solves nothing.
unvote
Christ.
Zipped you do realise its most likely Lylo after today. Do you even scumread kyan?
Like this solves nothing.
unvote
Blarg is totes scum. You're only probs scum.
Also you're role is relevant, I'm hoping the info we will get from a mass claim resolves the missing NK one way or another.
Blargonaut
Banned
Who said you were scum Commuter?
Blargonaut
Banned
hmmmmmmm
Lone_Prodigy
Member
It seems to me that lynching one of them is less about "they're scummy" than "removing one will change my opinion of the others and reveal pertinent info". I just think it's a bad way to go about a D6 vote.
At least in my case, cabot was the former at the beginning. Still see him as possible scum, though the case has been tainted by the second narrative you present for sure. Confusing.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Here's another Bronx theory.
Night 2, he thinks about cabot but fears the commuter so he shoots Swamped. Kill fails.
So maybe Swamped is the commuter and cabot was lying, so he shoots him N3, only to have it fail again.
It's unlikely there would be two commuters, so one must be BP. He chose correctly.
Night 2, he thinks about cabot but fears the commuter so he shoots Swamped. Kill fails.
So maybe Swamped is the commuter and cabot was lying, so he shoots him N3, only to have it fail again.
It's unlikely there would be two commuters, so one must be BP. He chose correctly.
Zippedpinhead
Member
I think L_P has a point about Bronx,
However, WTF?!? Pick a side on Cabot/Blarg/*splinter. That's where we are at now.
I'm leaning towards blarg over Cabot and *splinter. If Cabot is scum he has me hook line and sinker on his commuter claim. I believe he is a commuter and because I can't think of a good gameplay reason to ever have a scum commuter I think he is town.
And Cabot, at 5 to lynch and no one posting for hours I needed something to shake some leaves loose. It looks like it worked.
However, WTF?!? Pick a side on Cabot/Blarg/*splinter. That's where we are at now.
I'm leaning towards blarg over Cabot and *splinter. If Cabot is scum he has me hook line and sinker on his commuter claim. I believe he is a commuter and because I can't think of a good gameplay reason to ever have a scum commuter I think he is town.
And Cabot, at 5 to lynch and no one posting for hours I needed something to shake some leaves loose. It looks like it worked.
Zippedpinhead
Member
And I think *splinter has played a very town forward game.
Blarg's second point Day 4 (after trying to spread that Cabot is mafia) was to defend swamped and say that Cabot was groundless (see post 2326)
The rest of the day he hammers into Cabot, endlessly/mercilessly. Which isn't scummy because getting under people's skin is a good strategy to win.
What stands out was the quick defend. Why go through that trouble when only Cabot and I had posted suspicion on swamped? Why discount my theory on her? I think it was a quick defend of a fellow scum player and then refocus to get back under someone's skin.
vote: Blargonaut
Blarg's second point Day 4 (after trying to spread that Cabot is mafia) was to defend swamped and say that Cabot was groundless (see post 2326)
The rest of the day he hammers into Cabot, endlessly/mercilessly. Which isn't scummy because getting under people's skin is a good strategy to win.
What stands out was the quick defend. Why go through that trouble when only Cabot and I had posted suspicion on swamped? Why discount my theory on her? I think it was a quick defend of a fellow scum player and then refocus to get back under someone's skin.
vote: Blargonaut
Blargonaut
Banned
Why are you Town