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inFAMOUS - The oFFicial Thread

Why are you guys arguing over EG review? Can't you save your rage for the EDGE one? You know a 6 is coming.
 
"But in team games it's the specific strengths of the weapons that make for a sort of impromptu class structure - Bullseyes and Carbines carving up the frontlines, with Augers, the rebounding fire of the Hailstorm and the pointed strikes of the LAARK missile launcher providing indirect support. It's fairly well balanced too." - Tom Bramwell

Can we stop arguing about EG now? The site is evidently not credible, but it's also not worth this whine-bitch campaign.
 
Jim said:
They do explain it, as well as the reason he can't drive cars or swim, lol.

Also, all his powers mimic any gun or firearm you would use in any other game.
Sniper rifle, pistol, rocket launcher, grenades, etc. Who cares what it looks like, they behave the same.
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yep... and yet my COD4 loving cousin was saying "are there any guns? why cant i fire guns". You would think after playing countless 1st and 3rd person shooters he would like to fry some people :lol

as to the EG score, not everyone has to love the game you guys... it seems everyone else does. I adored the demo, and i generally dont like open world games.

and 7 is an bad score... well maybe it would be good score for Superman game or something.
 
I think a lot of people mistakenly take reviews of games and apply the scholastic scale to them. For reviews, 7/10 =/= C-. If you use the scholastic scale, there's a lot of numbers that are just varying degrees of horrible, with only about 3 points to divide games that are varying degrees of GOOD.

Every site does it differently obviously, but I always think of it as anything 6 and above is different shades of good, and anything 4 or below is different shades of bad. 5 is average. That said, I'm spending 60 bucks on a game, and I'm probably not going to check it out if it's on the lower end of the "good" spectrum. 5's and 6's are fine for free stuff for me, but I'm on a tight budget here. :lol
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
"But in team games it's the specific strengths of the weapons that make for a sort of impromptu class structure - Bullseyes and Carbines carving up the frontlines, with Augers, the rebounding fire of the Hailstorm and the pointed strikes of the LAARK missile launcher providing indirect support. It's fairly well balanced too." - Tom Bramwell

Can we stop arguing about EG now? The site is evidently not credible, but it's also not worth this whine-bitch campaign.
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Yeah, but could you put that quote in context for me? It sounds like it's from a Resistance review, but I'm missing your point. (Never played the game)
 
Jtrizzy said:
Yeah, but could you put that quote in context for me? It sounds like it's from a Resistance review, but I'm missing your point. (Never played the game)
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He talks about how weapons affect the multiplayer experience... but not all of the weapons mentioned are actually available in multiplayer. That's Tom Bramwell for you, so can we all agree that EG is not credible, and subsequently not worth the bitching?
 
Jtrizzy said:
Yeah, but could you put that quote in context for me? It sounds like it's from a Resistance review, but I'm missing your point. (Never played the game)
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The Hailstorm is not an in the online part of that game.
 
Flek said:
LOL eurogamer - the question is - did they even play it ? And yes that is a question we have to ask for every single fucking eurogamer review :D
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Be thankful there's no character creation, the reviewer might not have made it to the actual game.
 
autobzooty said:
I think a lot of people mistakenly take reviews of games and apply the scholastic scale to them. For reviews, 7/10 =/= C-. If you use the scholastic scale, there's a lot of numbers that are just varying degrees of horrible, with only about 3 points to divide games that are varying degrees of GOOD.

Every site does it differently obviously, but I always think of it as anything 6 and above is different shades of good, and anything 4 or below is different shades of bad. 5 is average. That said, I'm spending 60 bucks on a game, and I'm probably not going to check it out if it's on the lower end of the "good" spectrum. 5's and 6's are fine for free stuff for me, but I'm on a tight budget here. :lol
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I don't really see your point. If you are using a ten point scale, you are using a ten point scale. In both academics and games the scale is really 5-10, with a 7 essentially being one grade above a total failure.

I can't remember the last time I bought a game that scored below an 8 with the exception some yearly sports franchises. When I was in school, I was satisfied with B's (80-90) and exceptionally happy with an A (90-100) It's the same with a game.
 
Their own opinion you really can not bash it. It is like me saying MGS4 is utter shit it doesn't make a difference. Just let it go. Every other review is giving it high 8's and 9's.
 
"The need to find new sources of electricity to rearm means you're too often left with the zap attack and nothing else, and there's none of the invention you might expect from the electrical context: you seldom get to use the conductivity of your surroundings to your advantage, and nobody on the other side ever thinks to pick up a Super Soaker."
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Did they even look at the upgrades available for the zap attack? The zap attack will replenish your electricity AND health. Fact.

"The adequate checkpointing is little comfort as you bounce off the kind of run-and-gun scenarios that Gears of War and others have done a lot better, along with torturous protect-the-bus or protect-the-engineer sieges, which are not only weighted heavily against you, but repetitive and overlong."
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O RLY? Lets take a simple example from the game. I had to kill a certain number of baddies who had taken over a building. In which other game can I snipe the rocket launcher guy from afar, then sneak over rooftops to get onto a roof of a much taller building, jump and glide to the roof of the enemy building, crash to its roof with a thunder drop while throwing rockets on the road in front of it, throw grenades into an alley while running to its opposite side, then using a shield while I clamber onto a streetlight and alternately zapping the remaining few enemies.

I have actually done that sequence in a different side mission. inFAMOUS has more freedom of platforming and shooting than 90% of games out there. Fact.

"But then you may also have had enough. There is more charm to inFamous than Cole's face and voice suggest, but basking in the glow of the end credits, there are also a lot of painful memories to recall; of too many missions that funnel you into shooting galleries, of difficulty spikes and enemy-spamming, and of staring at the upgrades page rather glumly, aware that for the most part you're only being invited to make things strike harder or across a broader range."
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Several upgrades can completely change the way your powers behave, as well as the way you play the game. Enemies might float in the air, so while earlier you were blasting away at them from a concealed position, now it makes more sense to be on rooftops in the open so you have better shooting position. It might give you more electricity or health. It might give you more XP, as well as positively affect your karma. The rocket launcher upgrade will 100% change how you use it. Earlier I had to be in the open to use it, but after its upgrade, I can afford to be more sneaky as I have another way of making it hit the enemies. For Eurogamer to suggest that upgrades MOSTLY (nice qualifier, though I wish they'd sometimes use less than usual number of 50 in a 2 page review) lead to just an upgrade in power or breadth is wrong. Fact.

"But most of all, there is the realisation that by the end of the game you feel like more than a man, and the power is arresting, and yet for much of Cole's quest, you have been running out of ammo, hiding, and firing back with a popgun. The flaw is that inFamous overcomes Cole's lack of invention, but, damningly for a story about an electrical superhero, it never quite overcomes his lack of power."
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Running out of Ammo? Firing with a popgun? What game did they play? And if they played inFAMOUS, how badly did they play it? Its like they dont know what strategy is... Some enemies require more firepower, so you have to position yourself where there are more sources of electricity... It might be a bad position, but you wont find yourself without electricity. You might find a great position to take everyone out from, but if there arent any streetlights/rooftop generators etc around, you'll be dead pretty quickly. There is a trade off which you have to make... You have to think and adapt to the environment as well as the enemy type. IMO that leads to good gameplay. Fact.

But apparently if you are Eurogamer, you can get stuck in a horrible position AND not have any electricity... and then call it the game's fault. :lol :lol
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Can we stop arguing about EG now? The site is evidently not credible, but it's also not worth this whine-bitch campaign.
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AltogetherAndrews said:
...and subsequently not worth the bitching?
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Honestly, nobody was really "bitching" or "whining" about the EG score.

We were just laughing at them, expecting the same shit they are now infamous for: terrible reviews, ridiculous scores, and not credible enough to be taken seriously. Kind of like what you are saying now...

Then the trolls and/or EG defenders came in here, saying how great EG is and how we're calling them biased, listing a bunch of PS3 exclusives that EG gave good scores to, as if it's some sort of evidence that proves EG wasn't biased and was a credible site.

From there on, it was a back and forth between the anti and pro EG sides, with the pro-EG having nothing left to say because they'd look even more retarded for defending a site known for giving detailed critiques / reviews to games they've hardly ever played.
 
h3ro said:
Iamcool, I wonder how long it will be before someone N4G's your post.

"Eurogamer at it again!" :lol
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Let them man... this is too much. Opinion I can respect, but how can they miss these simple things? Its like they didnt even play the game enough... or played it really, REALLY badly.

Lack of ammo? Difficult spikes? I could go on and on (There are a couple more points in the review which pissed me off... repetitive and overlong protect missions which are weighted against you? No shit. Thats why you get a constant fucking source of electricity. Jesus.) but i'll let it rest.

It sucks that they didnt enjoy it. Well, I did, so i'm gonna go back to playing it. The way I see it, its their loss.
 
Click said:
Ahh, you again.

A) Tons of people have played the demo and the majority agree that it will be a good game. If you were so quick to bash IGN for their 9.2 score by just (supposedly) playing the demo, then why isn't he "qualified to say that?"
Oh, and other review sites along with numerous GAF'fers who either got a review copy or a broken street date copy, have all said it's a good game (not demo).

B) No shit. You must be a genius to have figured all that out by yourself.

C) EG's credibility has already been attacked and it has already died long ago. You calling them "one of the most / only credible gaming sites out there" is beyond stupid. It's batshit insane.

D) LMFAO


Seriously, do you work for Eurogamer or something?
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a) I am not assigning a score to the game, I was just calling him out for saying EG is biased. Now IMO I do not think its worth a 9.2, but I can totally see why someone would think that. If you want to know what I think, I would say from playing the demo its around a B+. Now I'm curtain that it will go up after playing the full game, I am not saying its bad by anymeans, I think its rather excellent. If EG gave it a 10/10 and some one called them biased towards sony, I would have also called them out for it, don't think I have any other motives

b) I was responding to the fact that comparing reviews for diffrent games is kinda pointless

c) I would disagree, other then the resistance fiasco they have always been on point. And they are one of the only sites that use the 1-10 scale correctly

d) it is, sorry that EG don't use the 8-10 scale most other sites use. 7/10 is a good game
 
Felix Lighter said:
The Giantbomb quick look really got me excited about this game again. The platforming aspect is really impressive even when your just messing around.
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The city itself impresses me more than anything. Massive, highly detailed and with so many playable surfaces, it just looks like it must have been a nightmare to design, build and make work. Especially considering your own abilities.
 
Guled said:
d) it is, sorry that EG don't use the 8-10 scale most other sites use. 7/10 is a good game
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I must admit, this point is right. Most publications use a wonky scale which really spans from about 6-10, with 6 or 7 being terrible and 8-10 being good.

In truth, 7 out of 10 should represent a game which is above avergae and, to put it simply, good but not great.

Eurogamer, by giving InFamous a 7, are saying it is good but not GREAT.

I find it strange that 3.5 out of 5 stars sounds like a better score than 7 out of 10. This is why I hate scores so much. I cannot wait until the arbitrariness of scores is done away with and replaced, perhaps, by a simple 'thumbs up' or 'thumbs down', or better yet, by well-written review text which makes the opinion of the writer clear.
 
Sidzed2 said:
I must admit, this point is right. Most publications use a wonky scale which really spans from about 6-10, with 6 or 7 being terrible and 8-10 being good.

In truth, 7 out of 10 should represent a game which is above avergae and, to put it simply, good but not great.

Eurogamer, by giving InFamous a 7, are saying it is good but not GREAT.

I find it strange that 3.5 out of 5 stars sounds like a better score than 7 out of 10. This is why I hate scores so much. I cannot wait until the arbitrariness of scores is done away with and replaced, perhaps, by a simple 'thumbs up' or 'thumbs down', or better yet, by well-written review text which makes the opinion of the writer clear.
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or just giantbomb-like quick view videos :D
 
TTP said:
Why are you guys arguing over EG review? Can't you save your rage for the EDGE one? You know a 6 is coming.
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Knowing them it might be a 5. For me, I really do not care, they do have a bias and certain individuals here always use their reviews as ammo to disrupt a thread. For me, I am planning on buying the game and no score from EDGE or Eurogamer is going to stop me.
 
I think it's pretty much correct that most games fall between a 7-10 and that most review sites do it this way. Anything less is essentially a failure, just like in school.
 
Yeah that was a good video. Showed off some new stuff, but not overly spoilerish. The dustmen definitely look a bit more intimidating than the reapers. Do the gang all have the same variations of enemies within the gang, just with different skins?

So is is the case that you don't get the lightning strike power till late in the game? I love that shit.
 
_tetsuo_ said:
How are people getting that the reviewer at Eurogamer didn't enjoy it? He obviously did if you read the text.
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It's easier to rage and cry bias. I hope they didn't bother to play Resistance, no one should have to.

On US gamestop orders, isn't release tomorrow?!? I didn't get the robot woman call :(

edit: the 26th? Oh crap. Long weekend heartache.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
It's easier to rage and cry bias.
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Most people arent crying about bias, but laughing at their stupidity. Or laziness. Or a combination of both. As for them enjoying the game, i'd like to see some quotes where that shines through... without them backpedaling in the next paragraph, more likely next sentence. There are two paragraphs towards the end where they talk about the fun they are having, and then they go back on it again at the end.

I am not sure how factually incorrect and ambiguous, qualified-to-the-hilt-till-its-over-9000 information helps a consumer make a decision.

I hope they didn't bother to play Resistance, no one should have to.
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Its their job. Someone has to, so we dont. Not that they dont try to play as little as possible... and that too badly. Darkfall... Hailstorm... etc etc.
 
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